New to MP-3 and in need of advice.

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Quote from: drogulus on December 05, 2007, 01:13:24 PM
     Yeah, but...... ???

     I don't want to re-join hundreds of music files in Audacity!!  >:(

     Say you have a live album of rock music broken up into different tracks, some of which are songs and some index points in extended works (the same applies to many symphonies, oratorios, etc.). In my case I want to have both the whole album in one playlist, and the separate songs which I can add to different mixes. So I don't want to be required to turn the album into one file and then re-record it to separate out those tracks which should be separated. And it isn't the inter-track gaps between movements/songs that are the problem, it's the gaps in the music itself. How many joins do you want to do? Why should you be forced to do them?

     Maybe you have to be a Deadhead to grasp this issue (though I would think a recording of the Messiah would do it. too.).  :)

Oh, no, I didn't make myself clear. I only use Audacity to do edits if needed, like chop a long silence or applause off the end. Then I use that MPEG Audio Scissors program. You open it and it has like a list box thing. You add files to the list, as many as you want, then give the resulting file a name and click "go". It makes a new file, totally seamless, and leaves the old files alone. No, I understand totally what you mean. I have, for example, piano variations where every variation is a track. For purposes of putting on a portable, it makes far more sense to load one file than 33! :)

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     Well, I want the songs and the album both. With a gapless player I don't have to choose between them. I load the album and it plays continuously, and on my party mix I load the songs I want.  :)

     Actually, I do create multiple-track single files for some works where I know I will always want the whole piece undivided. So your way makes sense for me too in a subset of cases. But I want/need the flexibility of my way as well. Now that I've experienced gaplessness on the player I couldn't possibly go back.

     It's the same with Winamp on my computer. You have to tweak a setting in the output plugin and then it's gapless, at least for FLAC, mp3 and some other formats. I couldn't live without that.
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Quote from: drogulus on December 05, 2007, 02:46:09 PM

     It's the same with Winamp on my computer. You have to tweak a setting in the output plugin and then it's gapless, at least for FLAC, mp3 and some other formats. I couldn't live without that.

Oh? And what setting would that be? And do you have a separate plugin, or just the standard one? And if I want a moment of silence but not the "jump", do I have to add it to the end of the track?  :)

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Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on December 05, 2007, 02:46:41 PM
192 is good enough for Andrew Lloyd Webber isn't it?  ;D

Umm, yeah. Probably 128 would work there. Or 112 even... ;)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on December 05, 2007, 02:52:09 PM
Oh? And what setting would that be? And do you have a separate plugin, or just the standard one? And if I want a moment of silence but not the "jump", do I have to add it to the end of the track?  :)

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     You use the Directsound plugin, which is the default one. Go to Options > Preferences > Output Plugins > DirectSound Output > Buffering > Buffer-ahead on track change. Change the value from 500 to somewhere between 1000-1500 ms (I use 1000). This technique only removes the gaps that shouldn't be there, not the coded ones.

     Don't use a gapless plugin. It's not necessary and it will remove hard-coded gaps that you actually want. I don't think they work that well.
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Quote from: drogulus on December 05, 2007, 03:40:31 PM
     You use the Directsound plugin, which is the default one. Go to Options > Preferences > Output Plugins > DirectSound Output > Buffering > Buffer-ahead on track change. Change the value from 500 to somewhere between 1000-1500 ms (I use 1000). This technique only removes the gaps that shouldn't be there, not the coded ones.

     Don't use a gapless plugin. It's not necessary and it will remove hard-coded gaps that you actually want. I don't think they work that well.

Excellent, thanks. I'm new to WinAMP, I used MusicMatch since 1999 until Yahoo killed it a few months ago. I know there are a lot of things you can do with this, but not a real good idea how to do them yet. :-\ 

Glad to give this a try though. :)

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Just ordered the PX-100s

In Vancouver: $77.98

Amazon.com: $33.95

Welcome to CANADA, where you can get half as much for only twice the price!  >:(

(Good thing I make it down to the states now and again, and I can have stuff shipped there.)
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Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on December 06, 2007, 12:16:52 AM
Just ordered the PX-100s

In Vancouver: $77.98

Amazon.com: $33.95

Welcome to CANADA, where you can get half as much for only twice the price!  >:(

(Good thing I make it down to the states now and again, and I can have stuff shipped there.)

Just bear in mind the PX-100 are open-back. So you'll be leaking higher frequency sound. If that's not an issue, you're good to go. ;) If it is likely to be an issue, switch your order to the closed-back (but still excellent for the price) PX-200.