Havergal Brian Symphonies ..... where to start ?

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Lethevich

#20
October 25, 2007, 05:09:32 AM Last Edit: October 25, 2007, 05:54:57 AM by Lethe
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on October 25, 2007, 05:02:33 AM
I want....I WANT! Please.

Havergal Brian - Symphony No.27 (Mackerras/Philharmonia)

Credit to whoever it was on Soulseek that I got it from a few years ago (nick: LuigiNono) - I think they are a GMG user but I forget who.

Seperate movements for 56k users:

I. Lento - Allegro giocoso e marcato sempre - Moderato
II. Lento ma non troppo
III. Allegro con anima
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

alkan

#21
October 25, 2007, 05:22:39 AM
......   for the description of the Gothic 3rd movement.
How can I not buy it ?????
It's amazing what you can purchase for 8 euros and 37 cents    (Amazon price)
The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity.
Harlan Ellison (1934 - )

lukeottevanger

#22
October 25, 2007, 05:27:52 AM
Pretty please, in fact. Oh boy..... :) :) :) :)

Sergeant Rock

#23
October 25, 2007, 05:46:05 AM
Quote from: Lethe on October 25, 2007, 05:09:32 AM
Havergal Brian - Symphony No.27 (Mackerras/Philharmonia)

Credit to whoever it was on Soulseek who I got it from a year or two ago (nick: LuigiNono) - I think they are a GMG user but I forget who.


Downloaded successfully. Thank you! Much obliged  :)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

not edward

#24
October 25, 2007, 06:08:55 AM
Quote from: Lethe on October 25, 2007, 05:09:32 AM
Havergal Brian - Symphony No.27 (Mackerras/Philharmonia)

Credit to whoever it was on Soulseek that I got it from a few years ago (nick: LuigiNono) - I think they are a GMG user but I forget who.

Seperate movements for 56k users:

I. Lento - Allegro giocoso e marcato sempre - Moderato
II. Lento ma non troppo
III. Allegro con anima
Excellent, thanks.

I've not been on SoulSeek for quite a while (mostly because I don't use Windows much these days) but LuigiNono was always a handy source of interesting material when I was. :)
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

Lethevich

#25
October 25, 2007, 06:18:09 AM
Quote from: edward on October 25, 2007, 06:08:55 AM
Excellent, thanks.

I've not been on SoulSeek for quite a while (mostly because I don't use Windows much these days) but LuigiNono was always a handy source of interesting material when I was. :)

In the end his queues became too long to be able to get anything -- for me anyway, I was unable to leave my PC on for days at a time to reach the front of the queues.
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

#26
November 15, 2007, 08:29:55 AM
I'm only discovering this thread now - I just want to thank Lethe for uploading No 27. I know the work, I have it on cassette, but the sound is very bad. In spite of that, I still think this symphony is among the most powerful of Brian's very late works. There is a fury at work there that is quite unnerving. But you also get passages of visionary beauty. Quite a heady mixture.
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

gmstudio

#27
November 15, 2007, 12:01:30 PM
Yes, thank you to Lethe for posting the symphony.  I've been listening to it all afternoon...

J.Z. Herrenberg

#28
November 15, 2007, 12:43:55 PM
So, gmstudio, what do you make of it?...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

gmstudio

#29
November 16, 2007, 06:17:45 AM
Angluar, disjointed, exciting, but still tonal and accessible.  Even the "slow" movement was a rush.

Lethevich

#30
November 16, 2007, 06:19:07 AM
Quote from: gmstudio on November 16, 2007, 06:17:45 AM
Angluar, disjointed, exciting, but still tonal and accessible.  Even the "slow" movement was a rush.

I found it possibly the most restless sounding symphony I have yet to hear, it's quite strange :D
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

J.Z. Herrenberg

#31
November 16, 2007, 06:35:27 AM
"Angular, disjointed, exciting, restless"... It is characteristic of most, if not all the late symphonies - Brian was a very old man when he wrote them, and it seems as if he wants to get into the thick of things as soon as is musically possible. No time to lose! And no bar to waste...

The late symphonies are full of counterpoint - many strands of thought going on at the same time. Sometimes there is quiet, an expansion where things can breathe and rest. But then Brian is away again to the next explosion, to the next revelation.

And to me it all sounds perfectly natural.

I love it.

Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

gmstudio

#32
November 16, 2007, 06:46:22 AM
Quote from: Jezetha on November 16, 2007, 06:35:27 AM

And to me it all sounds perfectly natural.


yeah, that's exactly it...it was very unlike most other "modernish" sounding works by other composers from around this time...every note seemed to have meaning and a purpose, both melodically and harmonically...I'm listening again today at work, admittedly as background music...

J.Z. Herrenberg

#33
November 16, 2007, 06:54:08 AM
Quote from: gmstudio on November 16, 2007, 06:46:22 AM
I'm listening again today at work, admittedly as background music...

Brian as apocalyptic muzak, that's a first...  ;)  (Not really - just to get into a creative mood, I have often (ab)used Brian in the same way...)

Btw - which Brian symphonies do you know?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

gmstudio

#34
November 16, 2007, 07:21:43 AM
Just this and the 3rd.  I have the "Gothic" on order at the moment.

J.Z. Herrenberg

#35
November 16, 2007, 07:35:36 AM
Wow! You happy virgin...

If you really start to like Brian, don't forget to get hold of the twofer (EMI) with symphonies 7,8,9, and 31. Those will extend your insight into him immeasurably. Then you'll hear how No. 31 inhabits the same sound-world as No. 27. And you'll get to know the extraordinary symphony that set the whole 'Brian revival' going in the 'sixties and 'seventies - Symphony No. 8. If Robert Simpson hadn't loved this at first sight (reading the manuscript Brian had sent to the BBC) in 1954 (iirc), you and I wouldn't have been writing about Brian now...
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

gmstudio

#36
November 16, 2007, 07:41:54 AM
Quote from: Jezetha on November 16, 2007, 07:35:36 AM
Wow! You happy virgin...

If you really start to like Brian, don't forget to get hold of the twofer (EMI) with symphonies 7,8,9, and 31.

Sadly, out of stock at Amazon at the moment...

gmstudio

#37
November 16, 2007, 07:46:05 AM
Turns out my library has #'s 4, 12, 17, & 32...so those are on reserve at the moment...

S709

#38
January 13, 2008, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: Lethe on October 25, 2007, 06:18:09 AM
In the end his queues became too long to be able to get anything -- for me anyway, I was unable to leave my PC on for days at a time to reach the front of the queues.

Hehe, I just noticed this by accident... I am the user in question!
I can always create "queue bypasses", or send by Pando, or such... anyone can ask. I am always happy to make this stuff accessible.





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