Your first classical 'hero'?

Started by Mark, October 27, 2007, 07:04:00 AM

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owlice

Quote from: James on March 20, 2012, 04:14:18 PM
I agree, it is odd when you see grown adults participating in "hero-worship"  Ugh ..
Kids & young adolescents OK, but they eventually grow out of it (you'd hope) .. 
American culture seems to be big on this sort-of thing.

I don't quite get why some participate on a thread only to try to subvert it with their own (mis-)interpretation of the thread's subject, to sneer at it (love for the straw man?), and gee, this is suddenly reminding me of something from years ag... well, never mind; let us instead look again to the thread's title question: Your first classical 'hero'? Quotation marks included!!

And it stands to reason that... oh, look, as people have posted, their first classical 'hero' was identified in their childhood/when an adolescent:

Quote from: owlice on March 19, 2012, 11:38:45 PM
... when a child ...
... when a child ...
... when a teenager...

Quote from: Marc on March 20, 2012, 05:59:54 AM
...As a kid...

... During my teenage years...

Quote from: Gurnatron5500 on March 20, 2012, 06:22:17 AM
... even at 10 years old...

Quote from: Bulldog on March 20, 2012, 08:50:41 AM
When I was a young teenager ...

And if one doesn't have a first classical 'hero'? There are other threads, but perhaps I'd just be returning one rudeness with other should I point that out, so I won't.

Elgarian

Quote from: some guy on March 20, 2012, 02:56:35 PM
I like Elgarian. I like reading his (her) posts, even when I disagree with what she (he) says.

Hang on. My dear chap, does this mean that in all the discussions we've had over the years, you were sometimes not persuaded by the unassailability of my logical arguments? I mean ... I'm cut to the quick!

coffee

I think mine would be an individual who did a lot to introduce classical music to me - he was a country/folk musician, with a lot of rock influence on his music, but what he mostly listened to at that time was classical, especially Bach and Stravinsky. He'd majored in music in college, and he knew his stuff, introducing me to stuff like Schoenberg and Crumb and ... lord, so long ago I can't remember.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Elgarian on March 21, 2012, 01:43:02 AM
Hang on. My dear chap, does this mean that in all the discussions we've had over the years, you were sometimes not persuaded by the unassailability of my logical arguments? I mean ... I'm cut to the quick!

I disagree with that entirely.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Elgarian

Quote from: karlhenning on March 21, 2012, 02:12:25 AM
I disagree with that entirely.

That's OK though Karl, because you're my hero.

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

some guy

Quote from: Elgarian on March 21, 2012, 01:43:02 AM
Hang on. My dear chap, does this mean that in all the discussions we've had over the years, you were sometimes not persuaded by the unassailability of my logical arguments? I mean ... I'm cut to the quick!
Well, if my brain were better.... ;)

Elgarian

Quote from: karlhenning on March 21, 2012, 09:00:07 AM
(* bows *)

Isn't it I who am supposed to do the bowing, Karl? Or are the rules for hero worship different these days?

Elgarian

Quote from: some guy on March 21, 2012, 09:12:08 AM
Well, if my brain were better.... ;)

Well, then you'd win more arguments ... but maybe we'd love you less. Gosh, life's tough.


[It is always good to swap a few words with you, actually. But you know that.]

Karl Henning

Quote from: Elgarian on March 21, 2012, 09:15:12 AM
Isn't it I who am supposed to do the bowing, Karl? Or are the rules for hero worship different these days?

Hang on, I think this may be some lettuce in my ear . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

starrynight

Quote from: Elgarian on March 20, 2012, 12:58:55 PM
As I explained, I was using the opportunity to raise an issue that has often puzzled and frustrated me about the common assumption that hero worship and admiration are the same thing, and I was discussing the matter in general terms. (I regard the issue as an important one, which is why I raised it.) I'd say there's quite a big difference between what I said (and why I said it), and what you think I said (and why you think I said it).

To be honest I don't think I was replying to you, someguy just brought up the point so I ended up elaborating on it as I have before on the board.  :D