I.E. vs Firefox

George · June 24, 2008, 03:23:16 AM

Anyone having trouble scrolling with the up and down keyboard keys? On the old Firefox, I could just scroll up or down using the keys and now this function doesn't always work and I have to use the scroll bar instead.

Lethevich · June 24, 2008, 08:12:15 AM

Firefox question - is there a keyboard shortcut to go to the last tab used (an equivelent of windows alt+tab) rather than just one tab forwards (shift+tab) or backwards (ctrl+shift+tab)?

Opus106 · June 24, 2008, 08:37:18 AM

Quote from: Lethe on June 24, 2008, 08:12:15 AM
Firefox question - is there a keyboard shortcut to go to the last tab used (an equivelent of windows alt+tab) rather than just one tab forwards (shift+tab) or backwards (ctrl+shift+tab)?

Don't you mean Ctrl+tab (in Firefox)?

Anyway, by default, Firefox switches tabs in the order that they were opened. If you have TMP installed and enabled, go to its options, click on Events, and the on the 'Tab Features' tab. Once there, check the box alongside Ctrl-Tab navigates in most recently used order.

Lethevich · June 24, 2008, 08:41:03 AM

Quote from: opus67 on June 24, 2008, 08:37:18 AM
Don't you mean Ctrl+tab (in Firefox)?

Oh yes, serves me right for guessing it from memory

Quote from: opus67 on June 24, 2008, 08:37:18 AM
Anyway, by default, Firefox switches tabs in the order that they were opened. If you have TMP installed and enabled, go to its options, click on Events, and the on the 'Tab Features' tab. Once there, check the box alongside Ctrl-Tab navigates in most recently used order.

Danke, I dislike addons, but it seems worth it in this case.

Opus106 · June 24, 2008, 08:43:37 AM

Quote from: Lethe on June 24, 2008, 08:41:03 AM
Danke, I dislike addons, but it seems worth it in this case.

TMP is just wonderful. It's my desert island add-on, if you will. 0:) I don't think it has any features that are useless/showy/memory-hogging.

drogulus · June 24, 2008, 05:05:08 PM

Loading up on themes and extensions may slow your browser a little bit. I don't think it's a major difference, though. I tested my FF 3 with and without themes/extensions (I use a whole bunch). I'm pretty sure memory usage has been improved, but I don't have numbers.

With: 278 ms

Without: 195 ms

Lethevich · June 24, 2008, 05:40:48 PM

Quote from: drogulus on June 24, 2008, 05:05:08 PM
Loading up on themes and extensions may slow your browser a little bit. I don't think it's a major difference, though. I tested my FF 3 with and without themes/extensions (I use a whole bunch). I'm pretty sure memory usage has been improved, but I don't have numbers.

With: 278 ms

Without: 195 ms

Bear in mind that my PC sucks to high heaven 0:) But indeed, one addon won't be a problem.

Opus106 · June 24, 2008, 11:51:38 PM

Firefox 3.0 tops in this "test of memory."

Maciek · June 25, 2008, 09:31:42 AM

Quote from: Wurstwasser on June 23, 2008, 11:19:20 PM
Not sure about the default value, but you can turn it on this way: Put this into the adress field:

Code Select Expand
opera:config#Addressbar Content Search

Turn it on, save, restart opera. It's really powerful.

Thanks for the tip!

I've now read a description of this on various sites, so am really eager to get it into working order.

BTW, according to some of the forums I've skimmed through, if Opera 9.5 has any problems, it is only after upgrades, not after a clean install.

Maciek · June 27, 2008, 03:26:52 AM

Ha! Apparently it was precisely the search within visited pages function that made my Opera run choppily.

$:-\$

I have now disabled it, and it is again running smoothly as ever.

Milos, you should try doing the same!

(Ctrl+F12 -> Advanced -> History, and untick the appropriate box - or use the shortcut provided by Wurstwasser above)

Drasko · June 27, 2008, 04:52:13 AM

Quote from: Maciek on June 27, 2008, 03:26:52 AM
Ha! Apparently it was precisely the search within visited pages function that made my Opera run choppily. $:-\$ I have now disabled it, and it is again running smoothly as ever.

Milos, you should try doing the same!

(Ctrl+F12 -> Advanced -> History, and untick the appropriate box - or use the shortcut provided by Wurstwasser above)

Clean install, as opposed to just an upgrade, seems to have solved the problem for me. Did it few days ago and it has been running smoothly since, no freeze-ups so far, we'll see.

orbital · June 27, 2008, 08:32:11 AM

Tab Mix Plus creator's website has been suspended. So, if you need the xpi file, you can get it here: http://www.the-frame.com/blog/2008/05/30/tab-mix-plus-for-firefox-3/
via rapidshare. When you download the file, tell windows to open it with firefox and it will auto install it.

Tapio Dmitriyevich · June 28, 2008, 05:29:16 AM

Quote from: Maciek on June 27, 2008, 03:26:52 AMHa! Apparently it was precisely the search within visited pages function that made my Opera run choppily. $:-\$ I have now disabled it, and it is again running smoothly as ever.

Do you have very old computers? On mine it's running smoothly with the function turned on. Not a very fast computer here, it's an intel p4 3ghz.

Maciek · June 28, 2008, 02:34:25 PM

Quote from: Wurstwasser on June 28, 2008, 05:29:16 AM
an intel p4 3ghz.

Same. But I certainly overdo multitasking... 0:)

Tapio Dmitriyevich · June 28, 2008, 08:09:30 PM

Quote from: Maciek on June 28, 2008, 02:34:25 PMSame. But I certainly overdo multitasking... 0:)

But even on my Pentium III 800 Notebook Opera and its search function run fine.

Maciek · June 30, 2008, 12:43:18 AM

Well, maybe it has something to do with upgrade vs. clean install. As I said, I've been using Opera since around v.4-5, and haven't had a clean install since that time (though I seem to remember that in the earlier versions uninstalling was part of the upgrade process?). There may be a buildup of stuff in the settings, mail etc. folders that has accumulated over time, or maybe those old files aren't exactly compatible with the new version (I'm also using my own skin, my own keyboard shortcuts etc. etc. etc.). AFAIK, tons of people are experiencing very bad performance from Opera after upgrading to 9.5, and many have even decided to downgrade - check the Opera forums.

J.Z. Herrenberg · June 30, 2008, 12:56:09 AM

Quote from: Maciek on June 30, 2008, 12:43:18 AM
AFAIK, tons of people are experiencing very bad performance from Opera after upgrading to 9.5, and many have even decided to downgrade - check the Opera forums.

As I said, I won't upgrade until 9.5 is as good as the 9.27 I am using at the moment. Have you downgraded, Maciek?

Maciek · June 30, 2008, 01:18:52 AM

Well, I have a tab with instructions on downgrading open and waiting, but haven't made up my mind yet. 0:) Everything seems to be working much more smoothly after turning off the new search function. There are still moments when Opera seems to freeze for a short moment (1-2 seconds), but it is a much rarer occurence now.

Drasko · June 30, 2008, 04:14:13 AM

Quote from: Drasko on June 27, 2008, 04:52:13 AM
Clean install, as opposed to just an upgrade, seems to have solved the problem for me. Did it few days ago and it has been running smoothly since, no freeze-ups so far, we'll see.

I spoke prematurely, it freezes again, major time. Basically everything these people are talking about:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=237604

Don't intend to waste any more time on a stupid thing as a browser so no more installs re-installs, tweaks, or whatever. I'm switching fulltime to firefox till opera completely resolve this.

jfmac · July 02, 2008, 06:02:37 PM

Quote from: George on June 24, 2008, 03:23:16 AM
Anyone having trouble scrolling with the up and down keyboard keys? On the old Firefox, I could just scroll up or down using the keys and now this function doesn't always work and I have to use the scroll bar instead.

Not sure, but have you tried clicking a part of the web page that is clean? I.E. where you can't click to another page. I've done that and the up/down keys worked fine.