Is that God I hear?

Started by EmpNapoleon, November 09, 2007, 09:59:45 AM

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Is there God in his music?

Yes.
9 (37.5%)
No.
15 (62.5%)

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EmpNapoleon


locrian

We're not going to hold that against him.  0:)

mahlertitan

Not sure what "God" sounds like, but I heard some Wagner quotations in his 3rd symphony.


EmpNapoleon

Quote from: Don on November 09, 2007, 11:31:32 AM
So?

I'm sure he thought God was in the notes he composed.

I've heard God talked about in metaphysical phrases such as "unmoved mover" and "eternal providence," but Bruckner's symphonies seem to me great examples of God Himself.  While listening, I feel the word "God" become a reality, though not in ideas such as omnipotent, perfect being, and not even in a moral, sympathetic way.  I think sometimes that there's more in Bruckner's music than just music, or neurotransmitters in a brain, or a hobby. 

EmpNapoleon

Though, maybe, to flash back to another topic, I'm merely self-aggrandizing, and my pride is running wild because I am the one hearing these great sounds.

Don

Quote from: EmpNapoleon on November 09, 2007, 11:48:51 AM
I'm sure he thought God was in the notes he composed.

I've heard God talked about in metaphysical phrases such as "unmoved mover" and "eternal providence," but Bruckner's symphonies seem to me great examples of God Himself.  While listening, I feel the word "God" become a reality, though not in ideas such as omnipotent, perfect being, and not even in a moral, sympathetic way.  I think sometimes that there's more in Bruckner's music than just music, or neurotransmitters in a brain, or a hobby. 

Since I never feel God, this is a good time for me to disengage from this supernatural topic.

drogulus

Quote from: EmpNapoleon on November 09, 2007, 11:52:51 AM
Though, maybe, to flash back to another topic, I'm merely self-aggrandizing, and my pride is running wild because I am the one hearing these great sounds.

     I think you like his music. :D Bruckner was certainly trying to evoke something pretty grandiose, wasn't he? Which leaves everyone to fill in the blanks with a little bit of what they like best.
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BachQ

The question is not whether Bruckner believed in God.  Rather .......

The question is whether Bruckner was God ........

mahlertitan

can you show us where the god is? Which symphony? which movement? and which bar?

Sungam

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Quote from: GBJGZW on November 09, 2007, 02:50:07 PM
can you show us where the god is? Which symphony? which movement? and which bar?

Quit performing your reductionist magic tricks!  God can't be held down to specific bars.  He has to be spread out over how ever many bars are necessary for you to be confused.

locrian

Quote from: Sungam on November 09, 2007, 04:43:39 PM
Quit performing your reductionist magic tricks!  God can't be held down to specific bars.  He has to be spread out over how ever many bars are necessary for you to be confused.

:D

Lethevich

Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Josquin des Prez


Renfield

I'd say: if God is, then God is definitely in Bruckner's music.


But overall, I'll vote with Ms Forgetfulness (or rather Oblivion, in the sense of being blank), incidentally having finally realised why that name looked so familiar! (Λήθη.) :D

Quote from: Lethe on November 09, 2007, 05:36:35 PM
God sounds like this...

EmpNapoleon

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I don't know what I was thinking.  There is definitely no God in Schoenberg's 5 Pieces.  That's just fucking music!

Papy Oli

Is that God I hear?....

Yes...and he plays guitar.....



:P

Although dogs apparently prefer Gary Moore by the looks of it ... ;D  >:D
Olivier

Danny

Yes, I hear God, or at least reverance of some kind, in his music.  Also other elements that might figure into to it all, but the Good Lord is definitely there.

Shrunk

Quote from: GBJGZW on November 09, 2007, 11:12:08 AM
Not sure what "God" sounds like, but I heard some Wagner quotations in his 3rd symphony.

Same thing.

drogulus



    So that's where they've been hiding? In Bruckners music?

    Poor Bruckner. All he wanted to do was write his music and these......things come wriggling out!

    Now I understand what Hanslick meant by "giant symphonic snakes"!  ;D  >:D

   
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