Elgar, as good a composer as......

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Larry Rinkel

Quote from: Corey on November 13, 2007, 04:57:36 AM
That was a slight. His sense of humor tends to mockery, so he mentions the Smoking Cantata as if to say, "as if I would ever listen to THAT!"

I don't know what the Smoking Cantata thing is all about. Herzog, or D Minor, or whatever he chooses to call himself of late, strikes me as a mischievous but not fundamentally malicious individual. And like most mischievous people, he cannot resist having a little fun when confronted with pomposity and self-importance.

karlhenning

One reason I like the Smoking Cantata is, it demonstrates that Elgar had a nimble and creative sense of humor, something often lacking in zealous admirers.

Harry

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 04:48:54 AM
Harry, you are a little disingenuous here.  There is no one, not a man jack of us, but would gladly allow Poju perfect freedom to like what music soever.

Everyone knows there are other aspects to Poju's spam, so I won't recapitulate them here.

Also, you seemed to think that Herzog's post about the Smoking Cantata was "Elgar-bashing";  imagining slights where there are none is no virtue.

Karl, I am far from disingenious, I am simply not that kind of person...
Forget all of Poju' spam, if there will be no reaction, there is no action.
Dmitri's post was Elgar bashing, there is no doubt about that in my mind....

Harry

Quote from: longears on November 13, 2007, 05:04:32 AM
What he said!  The instigator is Poju.  For nearly two years others have been very patient with him.  His inability to learn and to modify the offensive cast of his comments has long suggested an organic disorder.  Asbergers Syndrome seems a likely candidate.  Perhaps a little more compassion would not be misplaced.

Be 7 times 777 more patient then....
What his abilities ot inabilities are is of no concern, just ignore if you don't like it, and the problem is gone. Don't try to educate, if it is rejected....
Compassion for the right reason is good, be larger than yourself, and you will perceive rest...

Kullervo

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 05:36:02 AM
One reason I like the Smoking Cantata is, it demonstrates that Elgar had a nimble and creative sense of humor, something often lacking in zealous admirers.

Yes, so why make fun of it? Especially since it is sung by the character of Sarastrowotanbasilioklingsohrdalandmarcelorovesobiterolfscarpia. :D

Harry

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 05:17:57 AM
With respect, friends, that is not how I read it.  His query was a joke, to be sure;  but I don't think that even the element of mockery in that joke is carrying quite that baggage.

Gosh, I have even been known to joke about Stravinsky ere now.

I'll vouch for your character, Lethe  0:)

Well whatever it was or not, it triggered my irritation, hence the thread. I am quite up to the people that want to bash Poju, so you are all invited. You know where to find me.

Lethevich

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 05:36:02 AM
One reason I like the Smoking Cantata is, it demonstrates that Elgar had a nimble and creative sense of humor

Indeedie, he apparently played a lot of practical jokes on people :)
Peanut butter, flour and sugar do not make cookies. They make FIRE.

Larry Rinkel

Quote from: Harry on November 13, 2007, 02:47:19 AM
Since I don't think in great, greater greatest I tend to agree, with you.

That's also a bit disingenuous coming from someone who writes, "TCHAIKOVSKY, NONE GREATER" in capital letters under his portrait.

Harry

Quote from: Larry Rinkel on November 13, 2007, 05:22:35 AM
I don't know what the Smoking Cantata thing is all about. Herzog, or D Minor, or whatever he chooses to call himself of late, strikes me as a mischievous but not fundamentally malicious individual. And like most mischievous people, he cannot resist having a little fun when confronted with pomposity and self-importance.

Dmitri is indeed far from malicious, his ironical sleight was just one to many, that's all.
This has gone far over the borders of a little fun methinks.

Harry

Quote from: Larry Rinkel on November 13, 2007, 05:48:05 AM
That's also a bit disingenuous coming from someone who writes, "TCHAIKOVSKY, NONE GREATER" in capital letters under his portrait.


Those who know me, know how to interpretate that Larry.... :)

Harry

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 05:36:02 AM
[something often lacking in zealous admirers.]

See, Karl, that is not necesarry....
Poju has enough humor, believe me...

karlhenning

Quote from: Harry on November 13, 2007, 05:50:36 AM
See, Karl, that is not necesarry....
Poju has enough humor, believe me...

See, Harry, I spoke generally for a reason.

Larry Rinkel

Quote from: Harry on November 13, 2007, 05:48:16 AM
Dmitri is indeed far from malicious, his ironical sleight was just one to many, that's all.
This has gone far over the borders of a little fun methinks.

Please point me to the thread where this tragic event took place.

Larry Rinkel

Quote from: Harry on November 13, 2007, 05:50:36 AM
See, Karl, that is not necesarry....
Poju has enough humor, believe me...

I have yet to see the slightest sign of a sense of humor from the gentleman.

karlhenning

Quote from: Harry on November 13, 2007, 05:46:37 AM
Well whatever it was or not, it triggered my irritation

Harry, you ask us to honor your irritation;  yet you absolutely discount the irritation which Poju inflicts on others.

Larry Rinkel

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 06:01:31 AM
Harry, you ask us to honor your irritation;  yet you absolutely discount the irritation which Poju inflicts on others.

Bingo.

Harry

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 06:01:31 AM
Harry, you ask us to honor your irritation;  yet you absolutely discount the irritation which Poju inflicts on others.

That I do not, I simply ask you all to ignore, what leads obviously to rupture....

Harry

Quote from: karlhenning on November 13, 2007, 05:57:57 AM
See, Harry, I spoke generally for a reason.

As I too my friend, I am not in the habit of doing otherwise...

Don

Quote from: Larry Rinkel on November 13, 2007, 03:09:29 AM
Lighten up, y'all. Poju gives as good as he gets.

I'm surprised to read the above.  The way I see it, 71dB's bashing is immature and generally ridiculous.  What he gets back is much stronger and vile than his own rantings.

Harry

Quote from: Larry Rinkel on November 13, 2007, 05:59:42 AM
I have yet to see the slightest sign of a sense of humor from the gentleman.

Then common man, and try to know me better... as Christmas past said to Scrooge.... :)