Is this concert a ripoff?

Started by Mozart, December 03, 2007, 01:37:19 PM

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Mozart

I feel like this is a ripoff, the san diego symphony usually plays more than 1 piece of work. They are playing Beethovens 9th this weekend and thats it. No overture...no small little work just that. Its like hey dudes wtf why should I pay the same price for less music than usual?

Brian

Maybe they'll play it really slowly.  :)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Brian on December 03, 2007, 01:44:17 PM
Maybe they'll play it really slowly.  :)

Crikey, I hope not!  :-\

Anyway, when you're getting THE 9TH, you are always getting more music, not less. Savor it!  :)

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AnthonyAthletic

You'd have to ask an Amateur or Pro musician what kind of stamina is needed for a Beethoven 9th plus any pre interval fillers, indeed how much can an orchestra take?

Longest concert I went to was a couple of overtures, Strauss' Death & Transfiguration followed by Mahler 5th.  And those guys n gals of the BBC Phil were well and truly knackered come the 1 hour 50 mins later.

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Mark

When hearing the mighty Ninth, you need nothing before, nor after. 0:)

gmstudio

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on December 03, 2007, 02:39:18 PM
You'd have to ask an Amateur or Pro musician what kind of stamina is needed for a Beethoven 9th plus any pre interval fillers, indeed how much can an orchestra take?


Amen.   0:)

Iago

Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on December 03, 2007, 01:37:19 PM
I feel like this is a ripoff, the san diego symphony usually plays more than 1 piece of work. They are playing Beethovens 9th this weekend and thats it. No overture...no small little work just that. Its like hey dudes wtf why should I pay the same price for less music than usual?

Only an idiot, concert going amateur would ask such a question.
"Good", is NOT good enough, when "better" is expected

Don

Quote from: Brian on December 03, 2007, 01:44:17 PM
Maybe they'll play it really slowly.  :)

That's the best posting I've read today.

greg

Quote from: Iago on December 03, 2007, 02:55:19 PM
Only an idiot, concert going amateur would ask such a question.
it's not his fault he's not rich and gets to go to every single concert he wants to  ::)

Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on December 03, 2007, 01:37:19 PM
I feel like this is a ripoff, the san diego symphony usually plays more than 1 piece of work. They are playing Beethovens 9th this weekend and thats it. No overture...no small little work just that. Its like hey dudes wtf why should I pay the same price for less music than usual?
what is it, just over an hour? I've went to a concert for Mahler 5, with nothing else. It seemed short for a concert, it seems like they should've did a short little orchestral piece at 10'-15' long first, but still, if you like the symphony, you should go, it'll be worth it.

mahlertitan

Why do you go to concerts? Do you go to concerts as if going to supermarkets? or restaurants? more is prefered to less? what about quality? what is more important in classical music? quantity or quality?

Beethoven's 9th is such a massive work, combining both vocal and instrumental music in one symphonic setting. To me, it's more than sufficient for one night of concert.

MISHUGINA

Longest concert I went so far was a coupling of Brahms Violin Concerto (with Joshua Bell) and a Bruckner 4th. What made it worse the Bruckner 4th felt like an eternity.  :P

mahlertitan

Quote from: MISHUGINA on December 03, 2007, 03:25:25 PM
Longest concert I went so far was a coupling of Brahms Violin Concerto (with Joshua Bell) and a Bruckner 4th. What made it worse the Bruckner 4th felt like an eternity.  :P


what orchestra and who was conducting?

jochanaan

Quote from: AnthonyAthletic on December 03, 2007, 02:39:18 PM
You'd have to ask an Amateur or Pro musician what kind of stamina is needed for a Beethoven 9th plus any pre interval fillers, indeed how much can an orchestra take?
The Ninth is no park walk.  It's exhausting even for a major orchestra.  But utterly worth it. :D

And what else to do on a program with the Ninth is a serious question.  You don't want another major work; the orchestra would be fainting in their seats.  But most light things will sound, well, light.  I think the San Diego Symphony made a wise programming choice.
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Mozart

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on December 03, 2007, 02:28:25 PM
Crikey, I hope not!  :-\

Anyway, when you're getting THE 9TH, you are always getting more music, not less. Savor it!  :)

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Now playing: Dvorak B 010 - Sadlo Czech PO / Neumann - Dvorak Concerto #1 in A for Cello & Orchestra WoO B 10 1st mvmt

Its true, Its a great work, but an overture would be nice...maybe a short concerto :D It's all I am asking for :D

Mozart

Quote from: GBJGZW on December 03, 2007, 03:12:04 PM
Why do you go to concerts? Do you go to concerts as if going to supermarkets? or restaurants? more is prefered to less? what about quality? what is more important in classical music? quantity or quality?

Beethoven's 9th is such a massive work, combining both vocal and instrumental music in one symphonic setting. To me, it's more than sufficient for one night of concert.

Well I want to see the 9th, but I am going to entertain myself, I would like it if it lasted longer.

Mozart

Quote from: Iago on December 03, 2007, 02:55:19 PM
Only an idiot, concert going amateur would ask such a question.

Yes I am an amateur concert goer. I don't even spend 45 minutes putting on my old person funky cologne! Not to mention my Newport RI shirt usually gets a few raised eyebrows in a crowd of old women in ugly dresses.

Bonehelm

Quote from: Brian on December 03, 2007, 01:44:17 PM
Maybe they'll play it really slowly.  :)

A Celibidachean Scherzo in the ninth would be priceless :)

Brian

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@ Don: thanks  :)

Quote from: Bonehelm on December 03, 2007, 09:34:17 PM
A Celibidachean Scherzo in the ninth would be priceless :)
This is all very funny given our discussion in the HIP Beethoven thread about performing the Ninth in under 50 minutes.  :D  Something tells me it would sound better at that extreme than if you played it Celistyle ... and then you could get in a good concerto too!


Problem solved  0:)  come next week to the Brian Symphony Orchestra. Our program?
BAX The Happy Forest
RACHMANINOV Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini
BEETHOVEN Symphony No 9 - supercharged!

...see? That wasn't too hard!

MISHUGINA

Quote from: mahlertitan on December 03, 2007, 03:28:16 PM

what orchestra and who was conducting?

um...its my local Philharmonic by Kees Bakels (the one who recorded raved Rimsky-Korsakov cycle on BIS)


springrite

Go!

Then get a group of people to join you in demanding an encore: The finale no less!