I must have Mahler's Ninth!

Started by Stonemason, December 17, 2007, 05:25:47 PM

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gmstudio

Based on this thread, I picked up the Barenboim while Xmas shopping this evening. Am really enjoying it so far...it's the 14th version of this piece I've owned and it's really just one of those that you really, truly hear something new every time.

(Ancerl is in my Amazon cart...I don't have that one yet, either!)

BorisG

Quote from: head-case on December 18, 2007, 11:52:34 AM
I find Karajan's digital, live recording of the 9th to be less satisfying than his earlier analog, studio recording. 

I agree.
Others I like are Bernstein/Sony, Tennstedt, Dohnanyi, Abbado.

gmstudio

I doubt this one is in anyone's top 5, or even top 10, but as I've been relistening to this piece all week (still loving the Barenboim), it dawned on me that this is the recording that introduced me to this piece.  So it gets my sentimental vote. :)

PerfectWagnerite

Quote from: BorisG on December 19, 2007, 08:41:14 PM
I agree.
Others I like are Bernstein/Sony, Tennstedt, Dohnanyi, Abbado.
Are you kidding? I love CVD but his Mahler is simply TERRIBLE. The Ninth doesn't stand a chance against some of the others mentioned on this board. It is so detached it doesn't make any sense.

M forever

Quote from: gmstudio on December 22, 2007, 04:25:23 PM
I doubt this one is in anyone's top 5, or even top 10, but as I've been relistening to this piece all week (still loving the Barenboim), it dawned on me that this is the recording that introduced me to this piece.  So it gets my sentimental vote. :)

This is a pretty extraordinary live recording. I once asked my first bass teacher who played in the BP for 42 years (1943-85) what the most memorable concert of his career was, if he could single out any from among what must have been many great concerts he played in. He thought for a while and said that there were really too many that he remembered for a variety of reasons, but that the one time Bernstein conducted the orchestra may have been his most intense experience as an orchestral musician. This recording, originally made by RIAS Berlin and later licensed by DG, documents this - unfortunately only - encounter between Bernstein and the BP. I remember concert goers in Berlin talked about this for many years afterwards.

Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on December 22, 2007, 04:38:25 PM
Are you kidding? I love CVD but his Mahler is simply TERRIBLE. The Ninth doesn't stand a chance against some of the others mentioned on this board. It is so detached it doesn't make any sense.

Maybe not to you. But then you may not be an experienced enough listener yet to figure out what Dohnányi and the Cleveland Orchestra are doing here, and what you could gain from listening to this performance. Which is OK. It is your priviledge not to get it and be upset about that with the performers. But then you could also be a little more self-critical and less dramatic and maybe gain a lot from confronting yourself with this performance. Or maybe not.

Bonehelm

Quote from: M forever on December 22, 2007, 05:17:28 PM
This is a pretty extraordinary live recording. I once asked my first bass teacher who played in the BP for 42 years (1943-85) what the most memorable concert of his career was, if he could single out any from among what must have been many great concerts he played in. He thought for a while and said that there were really too many that he remembered for a variety of reasons, but that the one time Bernstein conducted the orchestra may have been his most intense experience as an orchestral musician. This recording, originally made by RIAS Berlin and later licensed by DG, documents this - unfortunately only - encounter between Bernstein and the BP. I remember concert goers in Berlin talked about this for many years afterwards.

Maybe not to you. But then you may not be an experienced enough listener yet to figure out what Dohnányi and the Cleveland Orchestra are doing here, and what you could gain from listening to this performance. Which is OK. It is your priviledge not to get it and be upset about that with the performers. But then you could also be a little more self-critical and less dramatic and maybe gain a lot from confronting yourself with this performance. Or maybe not.

That cover is so shitty it makes me puke.

not edward

Quote from: M forever on December 22, 2007, 05:17:28 PM
This is a pretty extraordinary live recording. I once asked my first bass teacher who played in the BP for 42 years (1943-85) what the most memorable concert of his career was, if he could single out any from among what must have been many great concerts he played in. He thought for a while and said that there were really too many that he remembered for a variety of reasons, but that the one time Bernstein conducted the orchestra may have been his most intense experience as an orchestral musician. This recording, originally made by RIAS Berlin and later licensed by DG, documents this - unfortunately only - encounter between Bernstein and the BP. I remember concert goers in Berlin talked about this for many years afterwards.
Now I want to take this out and give it another try (I never liked much about this recording, except for the Rondo-Burleske) but I got rid of it when I moved across the pond. Oh well.

I don't get rid of recordings so readily any more--lesson learnt.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

George

Quote from: head-case on December 18, 2007, 08:00:19 PM
Oh dear, you have to be one search virtuous to pull that one out of Amazon.com. 


Indeed, I've often thought that Drasko could easily make living tracking down elusive recordings. 

BorisG

Quote from: edward on December 22, 2007, 06:30:53 PM
I don't get rid of recordings so readily any more--lesson learnt.

I do not either, which is mainly the consequence of two things. A collection that is mostly set. And, taking greater care in purchasing.

A pleasant surprise. With advancing age, my memory and discrimination seem to have improved. :D