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Offline Cato

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The Worst First!
« on: December 11, 2007, 12:29:07 PM »
Yes, in Germany you always eat the Wurst first!   8)

But we are talking about SYMPHONIES now!

Since the forum loves lists and rankings, how about your opinions on the Worst First Symphony by a composer?

Dvorak's Bells of Zlonice?  (Anybody?  Anybody?)

Khachaturian?  (Can you even find a recording of it?)

Copland?   :o

How many people have I just outraged with these suggestions?   0:)
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2007, 12:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Cato on December 11, 2007, 12:29:07 PM
Since the forum loves lists and rankings, how about your opinions on the Worst First Symphony by a composer?

Elgar
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2007, 12:32:43 PM »
Elgar
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2007, 12:34:09 PM »
Quote from: karlhenning on December 11, 2007, 12:30:57 PM
Elgar

Elgar's first symphony is perhaps the most matured and sophisticated first symphony ever. Elgar was very experienced and skilfull composer at the time he wrote it. In fact I think Elgar's first is the best first symphony ever!

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2007, 12:34:51 PM »
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Offline BachQ

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2007, 12:36:59 PM »
Quote from: 71 dB on December 11, 2007, 12:34:09 PM
Complete BS. Elgar's first symphony is perhaps the most matured and sophisticated first symphony ever. Clearly too sophisticated for you.

We do concede, however, that Elgar 1 generates some fabulous vibrational fields ........
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karlhenning

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2007, 12:37:54 PM »
Quote from: Cato on December 11, 2007, 12:29:07 PM
Dvorak's Bells of Zlonice?  (Anybody?  Anybody?)

Khachaturian?  (Can you even find a recording of it?)

Copland?   :o

I need to revisit the Dvořák, but I remember liking it very well;  I don't think it's a serious contender for Worst First.

Never heard the Khachaturian, cannot comment.

The Copland would be the Symphony for Organ and Orchestra, yes?  I've been meaning to investigate that one.
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2007, 12:39:11 PM »
surprisingly, i can't think of a first symphony that's actually bad..... i guess that's cuz i haven't listened to Rachmaninov's or Elgar's 1st yet......
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2007, 12:40:06 PM »
Good night!
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MN Dave

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2007, 12:41:34 PM »
Now you've done it.
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greg

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2007, 12:42:31 PM »
i think we have given him some unpleasant vibrational fields.
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karlhenning

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2007, 12:43:23 PM »
Quote from: G...R...E...G... on December 11, 2007, 12:42:31 PM
i think we have given him some unpleasant vibrational fields.

He's just not sophisticated enough to handle good vibrational fields, poor sod.
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EmpNapoleon

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2007, 12:51:55 PM »
Quote from: EmpNapoleon on December 11, 2007, 12:34:51 PM
Thirded. 

I feel bad.  I know my opinion hardly matters, but perhaps if only two mentioned Elgar's 1st, he wouldn't have gotten that upset.  Come back 71!
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karlhenning

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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2007, 12:53:38 PM »
Quote from: EmpNapoleon on December 11, 2007, 12:51:55 PM
I feel bad.  I know my opinion hardly matters, but perhaps if only two mentioned Elgar's 1st, he wouldn't have gotten that upset.

Don't fret; he'd flown off the handle before your post appeared.
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2007, 12:55:49 PM »
Quote from: Cato on December 11, 2007, 12:29:07 PM
Yes, in Germany you always eat the Wurst first!   8)

But we are talking about SYMPHONIES now!

Since the forum loves lists and rankings, how about your opinions on the Worst First Symphony by a composer?

Dvorak's Bells of Zlonice?  (Anybody?  Anybody?)

How many people have I just outraged with these suggestions?   0:)

 :o
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2007, 01:06:22 PM »
I can't think of a truly horrible First Symphony at the moment. I strongly believe, though, that Elgar's First Symphony doesn't belong in this thread.  8)
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2007, 01:14:22 PM »
Quote from: 71 dB on December 11, 2007, 12:34:09 PM
Elgar's first symphony is perhaps the most matured and sophisticated first symphony ever.

Why?
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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2007, 01:16:02 PM »
Quote from: Manuel on December 11, 2007, 01:14:22 PM
Why?

He cannot answer you where he is now.
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Offline jochanaan

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2007, 01:21:57 PM »
The least satisfactory First I know is Gounod's.  It's pleasant enough--but against such formidable contenders for good Firsts as Beethoven, Brahms, Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich and even Bizet, it's simply not in the running.
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karlhenning

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Re: The Worst First!
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2007, 01:22:47 PM »
I must say that I remain in entire ignorance of Gounod's First . . . .
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