Bach's Bungalow

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AnotherSpin

Quote from: prémont on May 25, 2025, 12:01:15 PMAtheism is the recognition that religion is man-made. For my part, people can believe in whatever religion they want, as long as they don't harm others in their belief in the infallibility of their own religion.

All is man-made, insofar as the subject retains the capacity to perceive the manifested world. Atheists seek to impose arbitrary limits on this capacity.

prémont

Quote from: AnotherSpin on May 25, 2025, 12:42:39 PMAll is man-made, insofar as the subject retains the capacity to perceive the manifested world. Atheists seek to impose arbitrary limits on this capacity.


I'm an ateist. I don't impose anything upon anybody for that reason. As I wrote above: People are free to believe what they want, as long as they don't harm others.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

atardecer

I'm not religious, but to me it seems there must be some kind of intelligence, or creative force, from our limited perspectives we are not able to understand it, and trying to systemize it or codify it is folly. There is so much we don't know. I think the truth is too big to fit into a religion or ideology.

As far as music I essentially am in agreement with these quotes:

"Music is the one incorporeal entrance into the higher world of knowledge which comprehends mankind but which mankind cannot comprehend." - Beethoven

"Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." - Beethoven

"Leave that which is not, but appears to be. Seek that which is, but is not apparent." - Rumi

"Outwardly limited, boundless inwardly." - Goethe

"The art of being a slave is to rule one's master." - Diogenes

AnotherSpin

Quote from: prémont on May 25, 2025, 01:18:41 PMI'm an ateist. I don't impose anything upon anybody for that reason. As I wrote above: People are free to believe what they want, as long as they don't harm others.

I'm by no means trying to offend anyone's beliefs. Every person has the full and inalienable right to believe in whatever they happen to believe. After all, as I see it, there's no real choice in the matter. I'm not an atheist myself, but I don't follow any religion either.

atardecer

This piece makes me think of something ancient, becoming aware... it's hard to explain, but the music speaks to my soul.

Reitze Smits, organ
Instrument: Johann Heinrich Hartmann Bätz, 1762


"Ideology is a specious way of relating to the world. It offers human beings the illusion of an identity, of dignity, and of morality while making it easier for them to part with them." - Vaclav Havel

"Ideologies were invented so that men who do not think can give their opinions." - Nicolas Gomez Davilla

"True teaching is not an accumulation of knowledge, it is an awakening of consciousness which goes through successive stages." - Egyptian proverb
"Leave that which is not, but appears to be. Seek that which is, but is not apparent." - Rumi

"Outwardly limited, boundless inwardly." - Goethe

"The art of being a slave is to rule one's master." - Diogenes

AnotherSpin

The main problems with all and each ideology stem from inherent limitations in human capacity to critically and objectively analyze or escape from ideology itself.