Composers Hall of Fame Game.

[Anne]

Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson  6-2=4
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 6
Poulenc 10
Barber 18+2=20
Britten  8

Add Bellini

[Don]

See?

That's right.  Barber is now in the Hall of Fame - that's far better than the music warrants. 

Although I've posted regularly on this thread, I think it's time for me to take my leave.

[The new erato]

That's right.  Barber is now in the Hall of Fame - that's far better than the music warrants. 

Although I've posted regularly on this thread, I think it's time for me to take my leave.

A good opera, a beautiful "Gesangszene" (Knoxville), a very nice violin concerto, an interesting piano sonata, some good songs, a fine symphony and some fairly interesting other stuff does not an Entry to The all of Fame make.

[The Emperor]

UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN, R.STRAUSS, FAURÉ, HADYN, HONEGGER,  NIELSEN, BARBER

PURGATORY - XENAKIS, PUCCINI

HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,LISZT, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR

[Don]

You put Faure in the hall of fame and have the chutzpah to kick about Barber?  Hah!  At least you had the decency to nominate Nielsen.  As for this game getting silly:  WTF?  It was silly from the start!

Faure ahead of Barber - that's reasonable.  And, yes, the game has always been silly, but it did possess a degree of symmetry that's gone now.

[longears]

Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 6 -
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14 - 2 = 12
Lindberg 14
Faure 20 +
Puccini 8

I nominate Nielsen

You put Faure in the hall of fame and have the chutzpah to kick about Barber?  Hah!  At least you had the decency to nominate Nielsen.  As for this game getting silly:  WTF?  It was silly from the start!

That's right.  Barber is now in the Hall of Fame - that's far better than the music warrants.

Although I've posted regularly on this thread, I think it's time for me to take my leave.

We got your number long ago, Don.  I don't think your taste is quite as poor as this remark suggests, so you must just be ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it--which, of course, doesn't stop you from making such arrogant remarks on this or any of a number of other subjects on which you are equally ill-informed.

[Benny]

No clue about the history of this thing but I can't let Verdi go without a fight. Adding two points to Verdi. Lifting two points from Petterson.

[Don]

We got your number long ago, Don.  I don't think your taste is quite as poor as this remark suggests, so you must just be ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it--which, of course, doesn't stop you from making such arrogant remarks on this or any of a number of other subjects on which you are equally ill-informed.

You must be a Barber fanatic to come up with the foolish statements above, especially the stupid comment that if I don't consider Baber worthy of HOF status, I must be "ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it".  Try making some sense.

Let's get serious here.  Look at the prime names currently in the Hall of Fame - Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Brahms, Mahler, etc.  If you believe that Barber deserves to be in that company, that's fine.  But expect that many others would consider such designation ridiculous.

As for having someone's number, I can't say that I have yours.  In order to do so, I would have to possess some degree of interest in you.

[Benny]

UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN, R.STRAUSS, FAURÉ, HADYN, HONEGGER,  NIELSEN, BARBER

PURGATORY - XENAKIS, PUCCINI

HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,LISZT, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR

Democratic process before the American Revolution?
I sense a Boston Tea Party in the making!

[The fatgoat]

I'll add 2 to Penderecki. Capriccio is the coolest piece I've ever heard.

[The new erato]

You put Faure in the hall of fame and have the chutzpah to kick about Barber?  Hah!  At least you had the decency to nominate Nielsen.  As for this game getting silly:  WTF?  It was silly from the start!

Yes I did. And still find it perfectly reasonable to do so. At least he had some kind of originality as well as importance/significance that I can't see Barber even remotely having. However nice a man he may have been, and however how well kis music may sound. This goes beyond whether one likes their music or not. Read some musical history.

Of the available lot he seemed, along with Honegger, the best bet. But we were already seeing the indications of where it would all end then. And it will get worse.

[Varg]

Chopin and Liszt in Hell! What the Hell?! And Pärt in the HOF... And Pettersson getting is ass kicked by... Penderecki (and all the others)!!! And where the hell is Wagner?! You crazy bastards!

[val]

Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson  4 - 2 = 2
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 6 + 2 = 8
Poulenc 10
Barber 20
Britten  8
Bellini

[canninator]

Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson  2 - 2 = 0
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 8 + 2 = 10
Poulenc 10
Barber 20
Britten  8
Bellini 10

Do I get to add someone? Oh goody, add Machaut.

[Symphonien]

This is just getting too weird now. We should probably stop it soon... once Penderecki, Rautavaara and Lindberg reach the hall of fame of course!

Penderecki 8
Verdi 6 (-)
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Lindberg 18 (+)
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Britten  8
Bellini 10
Machaut 10

[not edward]

Penderecki 8
Verdi 6
Martinu 12 (+)
Rautavaara 12
Lindberg 16 (-)
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Britten  8
Bellini 10
Machaut 10

[longears]

You must be a Barber fanatic to come up with the foolish statements above, especially the stupid comment that if I don't consider Baber worthy of HOF status, I must be "ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it".  Try making some sense.

Let's get serious here.  Look at the prime names currently in the Hall of Fame - Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Brahms, Mahler, etc.  If you believe that Barber deserves to be in that company, that's fine.  But expect that many others would consider such designation ridiculous.

As for having someone's number, I can't say that I have yours.  In order to do so, I would have to possess some degree of interest in you.

Yes, let's get serious here:  you're mischaracterizing my comments...but that's nothing new.

Yes, let's get serious here:  this is a GAME.  A pastime that was silly from the start.  Anyone taking it seriously needs his head examined.

And let's really get serious here:  Very few in my opinion rank with Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven--not Mussorgsky, Bartok, Barber, nor Faure, and certainly not the likes of Schnittke, Norgard, nor Rachmaninoff (no matter how much I might like them).  And some of those who've been consigned to hell by other players in this game do not belong there either--once again, in my opinion.

Among the current list of candidates, there is only one who belongs among the ranks of the great: Verdi--but those playing this game have consistently threatened to consign him to the fires of Ghenna.  Big deal.  I can choose to play today or not.  It makes no difference whatsoever except insofar as it amuses me an the others who choose to participate.  If you're not amused, the solution is simple:  stay away. 

Penderecki 8
Verdi 6 +2 = 8
Martinu 12
Rautavaara 12
Lindberg 16 - 2 = 14
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Britten  8
Bellini 10
Machaut 10

 

[Rod Corkin]

[Harry]

 

[Don]

Yes, let's get serious here:  you're mischaracterizing my comments...

If that's correct, you need to do better job of conveying what you mean.