Haydn's Haus

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Bogey on December 25, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
Well, a very nice surprise under the tree from my wife:



The set did net me the Fischer symphony cycle that I have wanted for an age and there are the complete Baryton Trios that I also wanted (I only had four on the shelf).  Any other highlights from this set that you are aware of?  I learned from Gurn many moons ago not to write off less than famous performers (see Caspar da Salo Quartett for Haydn effort on the Pilz label), so time to see how many nuggets I can mine out of this brick.

Bill! Ha, that's an outstanding gift. Your wife is a peach! :)

Nuggets. Yes certainly. The piano trios and solo piano sets are as good as any out there, and better than many. The string quartets are controversial but never uninteresting. You will either love 'em or hate 'em. I think the Hob 14 divertimentos (I think they call them concertinos in here) are very nicely done too. Too many other highlights to enumerate. IIRC, at least one of the operas is very good, while a couple of others are not so much. Well, can't win 'em all. If you go look that set up on the Arkiv music web site, someone wrote a really nice review of nearly everything. I don't agree with it all, but he went to a lot of effort there, worth reading. :)

Merry Christmas, enjoy!

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Bogey

Excellent!  I will dig in soon.  I just may enjoy the quartets seeing my favored are the Tátrai Quartet. ;D
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Antoine Marchand

Quote from: Bogey on December 25, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
Well, a very nice surprise under the tree from my wife:



The set did net me the Fischer symphony cycle that I have wanted for an age and there are the complete Baryton Trios that I also wanted (I only had four on the shelf).  Any other highlights from this set that you are aware of?  I learned from Gurn many moons ago not to write off less than famous performers (see Caspar da Salo Quartett for Haydn effort on the Pilz label), so time to see how many nuggets I can mine out of this brick.

My, what an adorable and smart lady! You are a lucky man, Bogey.

I agree with Gurn; those piano trios are IMO the best option in the market; the works for solo keyboard (both sonatas and pieces like variations, divertimenti, etc.) are of very, very high level; the string quartets are not to my taste, but definitely the Buchbergers know what they are doing; the trios and other pieces for baryton are a sensational achievement which has not alternative version; the symphonies -although played on modern instruments- are generally very good... A whole world to discover.

Congratulations again!  :)

Bogey

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on December 25, 2010, 04:25:44 PM
My, what an adorable and smart lady! You are a lucky man, Bogey.

I agree with Gurn; those piano trios are IMO the best option in the market; the works for solo keyboard (both sonatas and pieces like variations, divertimenti, etc.) are of very, very high level; the string quartets are not to my taste, but definitely the Buchbergers know what they are doing; the trios and other pieces for baryton are a sensational achievement which has not alternative version; the symphonies -although played on modern instruments- are generally very good... A whole world to discover.

Congratulations again!  :)


Thanks.  What is nice is that my wife also thoroughly enjoys Haydn, so it will be a nice set to have to play throughout the house.  Can you comment on the highlighted part of your post a bit more, Antoine?
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Antoine Marchand

Quote from: Bogey on December 25, 2010, 04:30:11 PM

Thanks.  What is nice is that my wife also thoroughly enjoys Haydn, so it will be a nice set to have to play throughout the house.  Can you comment on the highlighted part of your post a bit more, Antoine?

The big box set includes not just trios, but also octets for baryton and even an additional disc of "rarities", with some pieces for solo baryton and duet. I think if you add up all the discs recorded on baryton on any label, they are not the half of the discs included in this set. IMO a real achievement for Brilliant Classics.  :)

Bogey

Quote from: Antoine Marchand on December 25, 2010, 05:04:12 PM
The big box set includes not just trios, but also octets for baryton and even an additional disc of "rarities", with some pieces for solo baryton and duet. I think if you add up all the discs recorded on baryton on any label, they are not the half of the discs included in this set. IMO a real achievement for Brilliant Classics.  :)

Ah!  Wonderful news!
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

SonicMan46

Bill - congrats on that BIG Haydn box - I own most of the discs in that collection as individual reincarnations - might take you the rest of the New Year to get through it but should be a joy for you & the LOYL (i.e. Love Of Your Life) - have a great holiday season - Dave  :D

Opus106

Quote from: SonicMan on December 26, 2010, 06:19:01 AM
Bill - congrats on that BIG Haydn box - I own most of the discs in that collection as individual reincarnations - might take you the rest of the New Year to get through it but should be a joy for you & the LOYL (i.e. Love Of Your Life) - have a great holiday season - Dave  :D

How will the Haydn box be a joy for Bill's LP collection? ??? :D ;)
Regards,
Navneeth

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Opus106 on December 26, 2010, 06:21:18 AM
How will the Haydn box be a joy for Bill's LP collection? ??? :D ;)

He won't have to listen to them for a while.... :D

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Opus106

Regards,
Navneeth

Bogey

 :D

I am currently in the market for a home device that transfers all my digital media to analogue! ;D

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Bogey on December 26, 2010, 07:48:56 AM
:D

I am currently in the market for a home device that transfers all my digital media to analogue! ;D

That's too easy... but do you really want DAA?  ???    You're a sick and twisted man, Bill. :D

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Bogey

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on December 26, 2010, 07:52:51 AM
That's too easy... but do you really want DAA?  ???    You're a sick and twisted man, Bill. :D

8)

I represent that remark. ;D

Bringing this over to the house:

Rolling out another disc from the "Brilliant" Haydn box set:

Haydn
Piano Concertos
Hob XVIII:11/Hob XVIII:4/Hob XVIII:3
Jolanda Violante fotepiano
L'Arte dell'Arco/Federico Guglielmo
Recorded 2008


Quote from: Gurn Blanston on December 26, 2010, 06:12:12 AM

Oh yes, Bill, that's another that I failed to mention. L'Arte dell'Arco are a great group. I have a bunch of their Tartini concertos that are super good. Anyway, those are nice versions of those concerti. :)

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The Hob XVIII:11 seemed a bit quick (8'35), or out of sync in the first movement.  However, looking at my Pinnock (7'59) and Koopman (7'09 :o) efforts-both harpsichord, I guess it can be faster. 

The Hob XVIII:3 was the highlight of th disc and I need to give it another whirl before reburying it in the box.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Al Moritz

Lethe,

thanks for your kind words.

Quote from: alkan on December 25, 2010, 02:25:40 PM
Without a doubt, the version by Derek Solomons ...   but it's OOP now.    I can email an MP3 file to you if you like.     Can I do this via GMG personal mail ? 

Alkan,

thanks for your offer of sending me the music. You can do this via yousendit.com (it is for free if you don't go for the premium options) to the email address under my profile.

According to this review:

http://www.gramophone.net/Issue/Page/May%201984/33/754919/

it is a bit light sounding (One viola, one cello, one double bass? There would not be much for the musicians to depart from in the Farewell symphony!). I am apprehensive about that; I don't like light-weight Haydn, even though I may change my mind once I hear the recording. That is why I like Dorati's Haydn so much. It is gutsy and powerful, without being heavy and ponderous.

How are these?

Koopman:
http://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Symphonies-Nos-44-45/dp/B000071WE7

Goodman:
http://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Symphonies-42-44-Goodman/dp/B00006L3WD

DavidRoss

Quote from: Bogey on December 26, 2010, 07:48:56 AM
:D

I am currently in the market for a home device that transfers all my digital media to analogue! ;D
Like a CD player, perhaps?  ;)
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

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SonicMan46

Quote from: Bogey on December 26, 2010, 07:48:56 AM
:D

I am currently in the market for a home device that transfers all my digital media to analogue! ;D

Bill - maybe you should consult Fred Flintstone?   ;) ;D  Dave

 

Bogey

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The phonograph looks familiar, but we have a full size car. ;D

There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Bogey

Just finished spinning

Haydn
SQ Op.76 Nos. 1-3
Buchberger Quartet
Recorded 2008


I need to throw the The Quatuor Mosaïques set Sarge sent my way to get a feel for where this effort falls.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

SonicMan46

Quote from: Bogey on December 26, 2010, 04:00:29 PM
Just finished spinning

Haydn SQ Op.76 Nos. 1-3 Buchberger Quartet Recorded 2008

I need to throw the The Quatuor Mosaïques set Sarge sent my way to get a feel for where this effort falls.

Bill - own both of these recordings, so will be interested in your comparison comments - seems that just one recording of these works is just not enough - Dave  :)

Bogey

Quote from: SonicMan on December 26, 2010, 04:21:11 PM
Bill - own both of these recordings, so will be interested in your comparison comments - seems that just one recording of these works is just not enough - Dave  :)

I will try to get a comparison soon.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz