Haydn's Haus

[Jared]

Well Gurn,

Stabat Mater: I have the Laszlo Heltay recording on Decca in the basket... seems to come out near the top of comparative reviews, having some strong soloists...

Seven Last Words: Yep, you've got the one in the basket, right there... read some good things about that one, and your recommendation seals it.. 

Many thanks

[Gurn Blanston]

Well Gurn,

Stabat Mater: I have the Laszlo Heltay recording on Decca in the basket... seems to come out near the top of comparative reviews, having some strong soloists...

Seven Last Words: Yep, you've got the one in the basket, right there... read some good things about that one, and your recommendation seals it.. 

Many thanks

Ah, well even a blind hog finds an acorn sometimes.   Can I assume that Heltay is a modern instrument/classic version? I freely admit that I simply don't know any of those. The field from which to choose does indeed get larger when you let them into it though. And no harm done (unless, like me, you pride yourself on having an all-PI collection).

[Jared]

^^ actually I don't believe it is in the truest sense, as its fairly traditional (which is OK by me, being as I have the Pinnock to contrast it with) however it has been done with Chamber forces and boasts Auger and Rolfe Johnson as soloists...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Haydn-Stabat-Mater-J/dp/B0007WW2FC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3W401GUYM6MLO&colid=31GWJ6HHKNUV3

[Gurn Blanston]

^^ actually I don't believe it is in the truest sense, as its fairly traditional (which is OK by me, being as I have the Pinnock to contrast it with) however it has been done with Chamber forces and boasts Auger and Rolfe Johnson as soloists...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Haydn-Stabat-Mater-J/dp/B0007WW2FC/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3W401GUYM6MLO&colid=31GWJ6HHKNUV3

Ah, you're right, great soloists. I'd take a chance on it for my backup too. Just to hear the lovely Arleen warble again.

[Bogey]

Have this on cd....love it enough that I may piece together a vinyl set.


And, coming back to this 33.  My fave is the 77, but this is giving it a serious run.

Wife and I enjoying this one....a lot.  From the notes:

....the very model for classical string quartet was clearly made by Haydn's famous set Opus 33,....
Other quartets written before this were not at all composed with a concept of a unified musical style in mind.

[Gurn Blanston]

Have this on cd....love it enough that I may piece together a vinyl set.


And, coming back to this 33.  My fave is the 77, but this is giving it a serious run.

Op 33 was his first set that was intended for public consumption. during the contract talks of 1780/81, Haydn was granted the opportunity to publish his own works. It is my belief that the difference in the quartets is not only due to his improvement as a composer in the 10 years since Op 20, but also because his intended audience was entirely different; i.e. - it was now the world at large. And he responded to it with a set that not only combined popular and learned styles, but had some certain crowd-pleasing elements that really made them stand out. He reverted a bit in Op 50, his next set, but Op 33 turned off to be probably the most popular set during his lifetime. I like it a lot too.

[Antoine Marchand]

Well, I did it:

[Gurn Blanston]

Well, I did it:

Cor! That was... big! I am sitting here trying to think of a bigger contrast to your favorite set and coming up blank.   I have Op 50 and 76 in that cycle. Now I'm sitting here trying to think of a bigger contrast to MY favorite set (coincidentally the same as yours). Still blank.   Hey, you will survive this. Herman did. And see? He's still... Herman.   

[Bogey]

Well, I did it:

Outstanding!  I have about three more installments to get before I have the complete run.  If you enjoy it half as much as I do, you will love it!

[Karl Henning]

Digging the piano trios.

[Gurn Blanston]

Digging the piano trios.

And rightly so, Karl. Who is playing them for you?

[Antoine Marchand]

Cor! That was... big! I am sitting here trying to think of a bigger contrast to your favorite set and coming up blank.   I have Op 50 and 76 in that cycle. Now I'm sitting here trying to think of a bigger contrast to MY favorite set (coincidentally the same as yours). Still blank.   Hey, you will survive this. Herman did. And see? He's still... Herman.   

Outstanding!  I have about three more installments to get before I have the complete run.  If you enjoy it half as much as I do, you will love it!

I have thought in this set for a long time. I almost purchased it two years ago, when the sale of Abeille Musique; but I didn't. Now I found a complete set conveniently priced, so I just pulled the trigger.... I'm thinking about this and I'm still a bit scared. 

[Karl Henning]

And rightly so, Karl. Who is playing them for you?

Ye Van Swieten Trio, O Gurn.

[Antoine Marchand]

Ye Van Swieten Trio, O Gurn.

I frequently think this is the best complete set ever recorded by Brilliant Classics; but then I recall that it was probably braver to record all those gorgeous discs with music for baryton. 

[Bogey]

Now on vinyl....set me back 2 bones the other night:



I am surprised of how much it does not remind me of Klemperer.   Enjoyable.

[Gurn Blanston]

I have thought in this set for a long time. I almost purchased it two years ago, when the sale of Abeille Musique; but I didn't. Now I found a complete set conveniently priced, so I just pulled the trigger.... I'm thinking about this and I'm still a bit scared. 

  Kinda like when I bought my first opera. I kept it on the shelf for a year, bought and read a libretto and commentary, thought about it, thought about it, finally played it! Damned if I didn't really like it too. Well, it was Figaro after all.   I don't know though, I'll be interested to hear your reaction. You can PM me about it if you prefer...



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Now playing:
Orchestra of the 18th Century / Frans Brüggen - Hob 01_090 Symphony in C 1st mvmt - Adagio - Allegro assai

[Gurn Blanston]

Ye Van Swieten Trio, O Gurn.

Ah yes. Of course, my fading memory strikes again.   Have you moved forward in time yet from when we last spoke?  I am curious to your reaction to the deceptively numbered 6-8. Early favorites of mine. 

I frequently think this is the best complete set ever recorded by Brilliant Classics; but then I recall that it was probably braver to record all those gorgeous discs with music for baryton. 

Yes, it is awfully good. I think if one could have just one set, and didn't care about harpsichord in the early ones, that would be the set to have. Very nicely played and recorded. Brilliant has come a long way since my first box of Complete Dvorak String Quartets!

[Gurn Blanston]

Now on vinyl....set me back 2 bones the other night:



I am surprised of how much it does not remind me of Klemperer.   Enjoyable.

Bill, you are even crueler than I am.   2 great works though, hard to not enjoy!

You know, those Hogwood symphony disks started out on vinyl too. You might have a go at digging out 1 or 2 of those. Bet you would like 'em! 

[Bogey]

Bill, you are even crueler than I am.   2 great works though, hard to not enjoy!

You know, those Hogwood symphony disks started out on vinyl too. You might have a go at digging out 1 or 2 of those. Bet you would like 'em! 

Oh....did not know they made the vinyl cut.  I will be on the look out for them.  This Klemperer is quite good.  I wonder how many he recorded of Haydn's?

[Gurn Blanston]

Oh....did not know they made the vinyl cut.  I will be on the look out for them.  This Klemperer is quite good.  I wonder how many he recorded of Haydn's?

Sorry, I'll have to defer to someone who knows vinyl AND knows Klemp. I am neither.