Haydn's Haus

[Gurn Blanston]

Only one of your amiable qualities, O Gurn, is your live-and-let-live attitude towards your fellow listeners' preferences : )

So true, Karl, so true....

[Karl Henning]

I think I prefer the D11 one

Interesting . . . I am apt to prefer the disc 12 version.  At first, on hearing it yesterday, I found myself just a little annoyed with some passages in which it seemed to me that Beghin was exaggerating the secco (let's be honest: it is exactly the sort of manner which those of us who have studied a musical instrument are taught to regard as unmusical, clipped).  But that passing pique notwithstanding, the whole sonata really impresses as striking, energetic, unstoppable.

Both the instrument and the acoustic for the disc 11 version are "juicier" (which apparently answers my initial objection, above) — yet I have got to say that the overall impression of the piece is less . . . incisive.

Still processing initial impressions, of course, so consider this less a binding judgment, and more a faithful snapshot of my ears at the moment.

[Opus106]

(I)t seemed to me that Beghin was exaggerating the secco (let's be honest: it is exactly the sort of manner which those of us who have studied a musical instrument in the latter half of the twentieth century are taught to regard as unmusical, clipped).

0:)

[Karl Henning]

Yes? Any forum participants who have studied an instrument in the 18^th century?  I mean, I should be happy to add meaningful qualifiers to help anyone out . . . .

[Karl Henning]

I think I prefer the D11 one; is that the English keyboard?  I am not at home and do not have access to the booklet.

Disc 12 (Program 10) is alla inglese; so our preferences may just align here, after all.

[Florestan]

Any forum participants who have studied an instrument in the 18^th century? 

My name is Franz Joseph Haydn and I want to tell you that modern interpreters suck big time. Just hear this dreadful Herr Beethoven, for instance... 

[Gurn Blanston]

My name is Franz Joseph Haydn and I want to tell you that modern interpreters suck big time. Just hear this dreadful Herr Beethoven, for instance... 

I am curious what he did think, actually. Beethoven's style (molto legato so I hear) would be quite different from what Haydn heard all his life. I figure he could probably live with it though; Beethoven didn't incorporate virtuosity for its own sake, which would have been anathema to the 18th century mind. Beethoven's virtuosity was in the service of the music.

[mszczuj]

which would have been anathema to the 18th century mind.

I am listening to the welsh songs right now and must say that I can't find any sign of the 18th century mind in them.

[chasmaniac]

I am listening to the welsh songs right now and must say that I can't find any sign of the 18th century mind in them.

I reckon a genteel interest in quaint indigenous cultures was a harbinger of things to come.

[mszczuj]

I reckon a genteel interest in quaint indigenous cultures was a harbinger of things to come.

I didn't mean reworking of folk songs (it is the 18th century concept) but the way he had did it.

[mc ukrneal]

A lot of Fey love lately. I'm curious - is the cycle complete yet? Has there been talk about eventually releasing a set?

[Gurn Blanston]

A lot of Fey love lately. I'm curious - is the cycle complete yet? Has there been talk about eventually releasing a set?

It isn't complete yet, I expect it will be though. It seems like a natural thing that they will release it as a box, but AFAIK they haven't made any sort of announcement yet.

[mc ukrneal]

It isn't complete yet, I expect it will be though. It seems like a natural thing that they will release it as a box, but AFAIK they haven't made any sort of announcement yet.

Thanks. Do you know how much further they have to go?

[Sergeant Rock]

A lot of Fey love lately. I'm curious - is the cycle complete yet? Has there been talk about eventually releasing a set?

Vol.16, with 90 and 92, is due out this month. The cycle is less than halfway complete. I don't know what the schedule is but I assume it might be several years before it is completed and a box released.

Sarge

[mc ukrneal]

Vol.16, with 90 and 92, is due out this month. The cycle is about halfway complete. I don't what the schedule is but I assume it might be several years before it is completed and a box released.

sarge

Oh Thanks! Exactly what I wanted to know.

[TheGSMoeller]

Vol.16, with 90 and 92, is due out this month. The cycle is less than halfway complete. I don't know what the schedule is but I assume it might be several years before it is completed and a box released.

sarge

16?  . I only have 9 Fey recordings right now. I would love to hear his interpretations of some earlier symphonies such as No.6 and No.22.

[Sergeant Rock]

16?  . I only have 9 Fey recordings right now. I would love to hear his interpretations of some earlier symphonies such as No.6 and No.22.

31 is, I believe, the earliest (numerically) he's recorded so far.



Sarge

[Florestan]

Just curious: apart from Dorati and Fischer, what other complete symphonic cycles are out there? What are your preferences, gentlemen? I'm interested in a consistently good set in the budget range - if such a beast exist. 

[Leo K.]

Just curious: apart from Dorati and Fischer, what other complete symphonic cycles are out there? What are your preferences, gentlemen? I'm interested in a consistently good set in the budget range - if such a beast exist. 

My only complete cycle is this, I love it so...the sound and performances are excellant, transparent-like texture in the strings, with a good bite in the brass too.


Joseph Haydn: The Complete Symphonies
Dennis Russell Davies

[Sergeant Rock]

Just curious: apart from Dorati and Fischer, what other complete symphonic cycles are out there? What are your preferences, gentlemen? I'm interested in a consistently good set in the budget range - if such a beast exist. 

Dennis Russell Davies

I think that's it: Davies, Dorati, Fischer. I think Naxos has recorded them all...but with different orchestras and conductors? None of the PI cycles were completed. A pity.

Sarge