Haydn's Haus

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Ken B

Quote from: karlhenning on May 18, 2014, 05:28:40 AM
But if his specialty is bringing out structure . . . in the case of the composers where the structure is obvious, what value does he bring to Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven?
Exactly my point. Not a lot of value add compared to other conductors. Which is why comparatively HvK does better on stuff like I mentioned, or Holst say.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Ken B on May 18, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
Exactly my point. Not a lot of value add compared to other conductors. Which is why comparatively HvK does better on stuff like I mentioned, or Holst say.

Glad you unobfuscated that, Ken. Like Karl, I thought you meant just the opposite. :)

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Ken B

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 18, 2014, 07:18:29 AM
:D  Yes, that little bit is famous, in fact. Throughout the first 2 years of the London Concerts (91 & 92), Haydn sat there at the keyboard playing continuo, which he had given up years before but which was still de rigeur in London. Mainly it was to get his face out on public, since the big advertising sales pitch of the Salomon Concerts was that they had Haydn leading the music. So when he wrote the end of this symphony, he included a little obbligato keyboard bit just to show he was actually alive up there. It made you laugh. I think it was intended to make you laugh. Clearly the music could do just fine without it. It is a very Haydnish touch, who else would have done such a thing?  :)

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EigenUser

Has anyone here seen the documentary "In Search of Haydn"? I watched some of it today and will finish tomorrow. It seems nicely done. Includes nice tours of relevant sections of Esterhazy's castle (there are several, but the one where Haydn worked). They even showed the only portrait of Haydn where he wasn't wearing a wig! :laugh:
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: EigenUser on May 18, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
Has anyone here seen the documentary "In Search of Haydn"? I watched some of it today and will finish tomorrow. It seems nicely done. Includes nice tours of relevant sections of Esterhazy's castle (there are several, but the one where Haydn worked). They even showed the only portrait of Haydn where he wasn't wearing a wig! :laugh:

Oh sure, we loved it! Grabsky did a very nice job, I think he had things in there which appealed to pretty much any taste in Haydn. That Haydn's sans wig painting is a hoot. He's balder than me!  :D

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Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

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EigenUser

I just finished watching "In Search of Haydn". If only every composer had a documentary like that...
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: EigenUser on May 19, 2014, 05:56:18 PM
I just finished watching "In Search of Haydn". If only every composer had a documentary like that...

I know, it would be a benefit to anyone. AFAIK, Haydn, Mozart & Beethoven are the lot. Never know, Grabsky could be a man on a mission! :)

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Brahmsian

Quote from: EigenUser on May 19, 2014, 05:56:18 PM
I just finished watching "In Search of Haydn". If only every composer had a documentary like that...

Oh, where did you find this?  I'd be interested in watching this.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: ChamberNut on May 20, 2014, 04:21:12 AM
Oh, where did you find this?  I'd be interested in watching this.


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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 20, 2014, 04:47:16 AM

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I hope they had the insight of interviewing you for this documentary, Gurn!  8)

EigenUser

Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

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Karl Henning

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 19, 2014, 06:38:58 PM
I know, it would be a benefit to anyone. AFAIK, Haydn, Mozart & Beethoven are the lot. Never know, Grabsky could be a man on a mission! :)

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When he was here in Boston, he said he was working on Chopin;  if so, though, it's not yet released.
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TheGSMoeller

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 20, 2014, 04:47:16 AM

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Movie of the Night! Thanks for sharing, everyone.
I didn't realize it was available for rent.

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: ChamberNut on May 20, 2014, 04:51:39 AM
I hope they had the insight of interviewing you for this documentary, Gurn!  8)

No, their loss, I'm afraid...  :D  Thanks for that, Ray. :)

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on May 20, 2014, 05:44:22 AM
Movie of the Night! Thanks for sharing, everyone.
I didn't realize it was available for rent.

Yes, that is a good deal. I'm delighted to have it, of course, but just getting to see it is a good thing for any Haydnisto!

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EigenUser

I like the unintended pun in the title. I assumed that it was intentional, but then I saw the cover of the DVD that Gurn posted and it appears that they made "In Search of Mozart" and "In Search of Beethoven" first.

I'd like to see one on Schumann. His life could be the plot of a novel. Of course, I'd love to see ones on my top three composers, but like that will ever happen.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".