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George

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 28, 2015, 06:15:06 AM
McCabe is very reliable, but I am told that this is the way to go these days:

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I don't know if it a decision which lends itself to listening to samples...  :-\

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My set arrived and I started listening today.  Uh-oh!

I can't figure out what it is, but there is a noise is, like a "pop" or "click" sound, but it's on my set and two others that I tried from completely different sources. It can be easily heard intermittently throughout the set, but clearly heard on such movements as track 11, CD 01 and track 02, CD 02. 

Can folks who have this set please check and see if you hear the noise and can tell me what it is? It's on Spotify as well.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on July 05, 2015, 11:09:40 AM
My set arrived and I started listening today.  Uh-oh!

I can't figure out what it is, but there is a noise is, like a "pop" or "click" sound, but it's on my set and two others that I tried from completely different sources. It can be easily heard intermittently throughout the set, but clearly heard on such movements as track 11, CD 01 and track 02, CD 02. 

Can folks who have this set please check and see if you hear the noise and can tell me what it is? It's on Spotify as well.

Man, that sucks!

You know, I have heard that modern pianos, when the hammers bounce back off the check, tend to make a sort of click sound... yet another argument for fortepianos.   :D

Beyond that, which I would label as a technical problem until I discover otherwise, how does her playing strike you? Cruising around the Web, she is the best reviewed player I have seen in this rep.

Good luck, amigo,
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George

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 05, 2015, 12:46:56 PM
Man, that sucks!

You know, I have heard that modern pianos, when the hammers bounce back off the check, tend to make a sort of click sound... yet another argument for fortepianos.   :D

Beyond that, which I would label as a technical problem until I discover otherwise, how does her playing strike you? Cruising around the Web, she is the best reviewed player I have seen in this rep.

Good luck, amigo,
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Thanks, Gurn!

Can you check this youtube link and tell me what you hear? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om2BdQmdS_k

Even on computer speakers, in just the first minute, I hear the noise at the start (quietly), then louder at 6 seconds, 15 seconds, 20 seconds, 25 seconds, 45 seconds, 55 seconds and 1 minute.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on July 05, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
Thanks, Gurn!

Can you check this youtube link and tell me what you hear? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om2BdQmdS_k

Even on computer speakers, in just the first minute, I hear the noise at the start (quietly), then louder at 6 seconds, 15 seconds, 20 seconds, 25 seconds, 45 seconds, 55 seconds and 1 minute.

Man, I don't know; I played it through twice, the second time at full volume, and I couldn't hear that sort of noise circa those (rather specific) timings. Of course, I have damaged hearing so I may not be the best choice for this sort of test, especially if it is in the mid to upper ranges.  :-\

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George

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 05, 2015, 12:56:27 PM
Man, I don't know; I played it through twice, the second time at full volume, and I couldn't hear that sort of noise circa those (rather specific) timings. Of course, I have damaged hearing so I may not be the best choice for this sort of test, especially if it is in the mid to upper ranges.  :-\

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Thanks. Wow, another person I had check couldn't hear them either. But I hear them clearly, one two different systems and from four different sources. 
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on July 05, 2015, 12:58:24 PM
Thanks. Wow, another person I had check couldn't hear them either. But I hear them clearly, one two different systems and from four different sources.

Avoid old guys for your testing; our hearing usually sucks. :)

Anyway, you didn't answer my question earlier, possibly you didn't have time to think about whether you liked her playing or not. :\

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George

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 05, 2015, 01:00:28 PM
Avoid old guys for your testing; our hearing usually sucks. :)

I'm 44 going on 45, so how old are we talking here?

QuoteAnyway, you didn't answer my question earlier, possibly you didn't have time to think about whether you liked her playing or not. :\
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Her playing is sublime! She's light, playful and the textures have great clarity. And the sound is otherwise spectacular!!
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George

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 05, 2015, 12:46:56 PM
Man, that sucks!

You know, I have heard that modern pianos, when the hammers bounce back off the check, tend to make a sort of click sound... yet another argument for fortepianos.   :D

You know, I read elsewhere that they close-miked he piano, so maybe that is what I am hearing. I just never heard it before on a piano recording.  :(
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on July 05, 2015, 01:03:11 PM


I'm 44 going on 45, so how old are we talking here?

Her playing is sublime! She's light, playful and the textures have great clarity. And the sound is otherwise spectacular!!

Oh, I'm 63. And I've done a lot of damaging stuff in my life. I'm a Safety Professional, so I deal with this daily. There is a scale we use to de-rate hearing based on age and gender. It only goes up to age 60; after that, you are well and truly screwed. :)

That's excellent, I knew so many people wouldn't have come on strong about her if she wasn't the cat's ass. I'm just an instrument guy more than a player guy, you know?   :)

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on July 05, 2015, 01:04:31 PM
You know, I read elsewhere that they close-miked he piano, so maybe that is what I am hearing. I just never heard it before on a piano recording.  :(

No, seriously, I was just fucking with you. It is MY sorts of keyboards which do that, although harpsichords are the worst (it's the jack bouncing), clavichords and fortepianos do it too. You get used to it to the point of not hearing it anymore. I think it is 'cured' in modern instruments, at least, I hope it is. :-\

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George

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 05, 2015, 01:41:47 PM
No, seriously, I was just fucking with you.

Now that's just not nice.... :P
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on July 05, 2015, 01:43:54 PM
Now that's just not nice.... :P

I don't do it often (anymore). Here, wait, I'll call a mod!   $:) >:D $:) ;D

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George

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 05, 2015, 01:47:41 PM
I don't do it often (anymore). Here, wait, I'll call a mod!   $:) >:D $:) ;D

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Be sure you choose a low ring tone.  :P
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Wakefield

I am devastated, George. You're totally right, I listened to several times those disks through my speakers and never noticed that demential clicking... But it's very clear.
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Bogey

I picked up on all of them except the 45 sec one, George.  I am by a drain pipe in my Tiki Bunker where I listen to my phonograph and thought that the first one was a drip from a pipe.  Played it again and got the same sound.  The first was out of the right speaker at 5 sec.  Listening to it again, especially the 20 second mark sounds like it is the piano to me.
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George

Quote from: Gordo on July 05, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
I am devastated, George. You're totally right, I listened to several times those disks through my speakers and never noticed that demential clicking... But it's very clear.

Now I am sorry for bringing to your attention.

And I wonder how many of the CDs are afflicted.  :(
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George

Quote from: Bogey on July 05, 2015, 02:41:18 PM
I picked up on all of them except the 45 sec one, George.  I am by a drain pipe in my Tiki Bunker where I listen to my phonograph and thought that the first one was a drip from a pipe.  Played it again and got the same sound.  The first was out of the right speaker at 5 sec.  Listening to it again, especially the 20 second mark sounds like it is the piano to me.

Thanks, Bill!
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George

Quote from: Gordo on July 05, 2015, 02:38:16 PM
I am devastated, George. You're totally right, I listened to several times those disks through my speakers and never noticed that demential clicking... But it's very clear.

I checked and found instances of the noise on all 9CDs.  :'(
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: George on July 05, 2015, 05:45:38 PM
I checked and found instances of the noise on all 9CDs.  :'(

Might be time to drop an email to Hännsler.  :-\

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