Pierre Boulez (1925-2016)

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ritter

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Quote from: jessop on July 21, 2016, 01:50:53 AMIt's a whole new world of Boulez when it's someone else's interpretation! I would like to know what other non-Boulez recordings are available of Le Marteau.....
Et voilà:

Robert Craft:



Bruno Maderna (live):


On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwpyBj6U-Mc

Odaline de la Martinez:


https://www.amazon.com/Boulez-Sans-Sonata-Marteau-Maitre/dp/B000025ZJA

Ulrich Pöhl:



B. Tommy Andersson (shorn of the vocal numbers  >:():



Simon Rattle (excerpts on video).

 
https://www.amazon.com/Simon-Rattle-conducts-explores-Century/dp/B01BZ2IUBM/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pdt_img_top?ie=UTF8

That's it AFAIK.

EDIT: In late 2016, another recording of Le Marteau was issued, conducted by Pascal Gallois:


https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=B01MTTJ40B

And in late 2018, this recording with the Ónix Ensemble from Mexico reached the market:


https://www.amazon.com/Onix-Ensamble-Hard-Core/dp/B07HBHZ5R9/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=B07HBHZ5R9&qid=1566071488&s=music&sr=1-1

EDIT January 2020:

The col legno label has announced a new recording with the Ensemble Orchestral Contempirain conducted by Daniel Kawka, to be released in March 2020:


Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: ritter on July 21, 2016, 02:49:33 AM
Simon Rattle (excerpts on video).



And I have that DVD;  I watched it once when I first fetched it in, six years ago . . . should have a fresh watch/listen.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot


André

Does that make him a good conductor ?  A great composer ?

Uhor


ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: André on July 22, 2016, 11:31:33 AM
Does that make him a good conductor ?  A great composer ?
Actually I don't think so. I have no doubt that there are composers and conductors in the world who have dickhead personalities but are good at what they do. Boulez happens to be good at conducting and composing in addition to the things we see in the documentary I posted.

ritter

Quote from: jessop on July 21, 2016, 02:07:56 PM
Boulez must have been the most generous, selfless person there has ever been for music. No wonder people absolutely adore the man.
That is one wonderful documentary...what I've always wondered, though, is whether the repeated use of the (beautiful) Cantabile, molto legato from Ligeti's Musica ricercata as background music is a homage or rather a snub to the Hungarian composer  ::)

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: ritter on July 23, 2016, 01:39:56 AM
That is one wonderful documentary...what I've always wondered, though, is whether the repeated use of the (beautiful) Cantabile, molto legato from Ligeti's Musica ricercata as background music is a homage or rather a snub to the Hungarian composer  ::)
I was wondering that too...it is a lovely piece (especially the wind quintet version) but perhaps it was just the simplicity in it that was appropriate for background music rather than anything else.

SimonNZ

"doesn't do much for me" doesn't do much for me... as any kind of insightful or intelligent criticism

Karl Henning

Quote from: James on July 24, 2016, 01:13:24 PM
Breadth, inventiveness? LOL ...


Quote from: James on July 24, 2016, 01:12:23 PM
People on this forum are very confused.

Thank heaven there's one supremely intelligent person here who is not confused.

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Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: James on July 24, 2016, 03:14:55 PM
Of course, I could go into why, I could speak about these composers & their music at great length but just don't see any reason to on this forum. Not exactly time well spent!
As someone who studies this kind of music, I would love to read your analysis of the work.

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: James on July 24, 2016, 03:23:28 PM
There is far more to Art than analysis.

Boulez (imo) was a failed composer, his work says & means little.

Give me something I can work with please!

SimonNZ

Quote from: James on July 24, 2016, 03:14:55 PM
Of course, I could go into why, I could speak about these composers & their music at great length but just don't see any reason to on this forum. Not exactly time well spent!

I have no reason to believe you could. I believe "does nothing for me" and "utter crap" is the full range of your critical apparatus and articulation.


Mirror Image

Quote from: James on July 24, 2016, 03:27:48 PM
That's fine. Personally, I don't care what you believe.

If you don't care what anyone thinks and you don't want to discuss music, then why do you come to a classical music forum? You mention time is better spent not discussing music on this forum with anyone, but you don't mind dumping on music with no reason as to how you've come to formulate such an opinion. Your logic, or in this instance, lack thereof, makes absolutely no sense to me.

snyprrr

Quote from: jessop on July 24, 2016, 03:24:55 PM
Give me something I can work with please!

How many formulae does it take to screw in a light bulb?

Potato! :laugh:

ComposerOfAvantGarde

omgggggggggg I will soooo watch those on the coming weekend....I have 0 time up until then :(

Mahlerian

Quote from: Thatfabulousalien on September 02, 2016, 03:10:08 PM
Me watching another Boulez thing:

https://youtu.be/xFqxA-Vms24

And here I came to this thread to post this...oh well.  I suspect it would be able to open up Boulez's soundworld to those who had considered him purely dry and intellectual.  It's good!
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on July 20, 2016, 06:08:50 AM
Jessop, how many recordings do you have of Le marteau?
Just want to update my reply to this question:
I have 6

bhodges

Just received the 2017 schedule for the Park Avenue Armory in New York, and very much looking forward to this in October. The vast Armory space, hard to tame, might be just the thing for this piece, depending on how they configure it.

According to the description, they will do the piece TWICE each night, so the audience can move to a different spot for the second performance -- an interesting idea.

http://www.armoryonpark.org/programs_events/detail/repons

Boulez: Répons

Ensemble intercontemporain
Matthias Pintscher, Conductor
Samuel Favre, Gilles Durot, Percussion
Dmitri Vassilakis, Hidéki Nagano, Piano
Frédérique Cambreling, Harp
Luigi Gaggero, Cymbalum
Andrew Gerzso, IRCAM Computer Music Design
Gilbert Nouno,IRCAM Computer Music Production
Jérémie Henrot,IRCAM Computer Engineer
Pierre Audi, mise-en-space
Urs Schönebaum, lighting designer

--Bruce