Shostakovich Symphonies, Cycles & Otherwise

[Sergeant Rock]

What would be sweet is if y'all'd go down to the Amazon and just check out a few samples of issues you don't have, just for that quick soundbite. I know,... I'm a dik.

We know you are, but we still (inexplicably) love you. Sorry, but I have little interest in shopping for more Shostakovich symphonies at this point. I already have 10 to 20 versions each (except 2 and 3).

Sarge

[Karl Henning]

. . . I already have 10 to 20 versions each . . . .

I know it's not for want of trying that the Opp. 60 & 93 aren't clicking with you!

[Sergeant Rock]

I know it's not for want of trying that the Opp. 60 & 93 aren't clicking with you!

Yes, I keep trying. As I just said in another thread, surely it's me, not Dmitri.

Sarge

[snyprrr]

It would help if you gave us the link to the video. The Slava version I'm talking about is included in his cycle on the Warner label. A live recording with the Academic Symphony Orchestra Moscow with Vishnevskaya and Reshetin, Feb 1973.

Sarge

Karl Posted the Barshai from the '70s I was talking about. Maybe in confusion I got it mixed with this Rosty '73... sooo, all the Rosty recs. are 'modern' except for this old '73 14th? There ARE two different performances from around the same era. ok. check. roger. out.

wheeeew!

(hey- what else are ya gonna do on a hot afternoon?)

[snyprrr]

He's my new favorite (love his soprano).
Sarge

See? This is the first time someone has said, LOVE his soprano. And it's not that I needed someone to agree with me, it's just that that's what happened. So, now we seek an even better. At this point I'm hard pressed not to pick the Currentzis, even though it's more than the $2.76 I have allotted myself per dsc! (now you know why I harp on oddballs!!- hey, that's how I discovered that Suske LvB SQ set)

Yea, I can go from shrill if the intensity is there- like in that '73 Barshai. She sounds like a barbarian in that whippy 2nd movement, but it seems to fit.

And- can't they flippin' get a SUPER BASS to sing 13/14??? I mean Orthodox Bass. The Currentzis guy is ok,... the Haitink guy was ok,... the Petrenko sounds ok.... but (actually, the bass in that 'live' Barshai was the most impressive- but they also didn't hide him in the mix)

There's the two basses they use a lot. Liefrfuss(?) and the guy whose last name starts with 'A'. I thought Christopher Isherwood had a nice deep bass (Varese/Nagano), and I've heard some Russian Choral Bass, - but why can't I get a rumble in my tummy?

That does it- new thread time...

[Karl Henning]

And- can't they flippin' get a SUPER BASS to sing 13/14??? I mean Orthodox Bass. The Currentzis guy is ok,... the Haitink guy was ok,...

Is an Orthodox bass wanted for Op.135?  And apart from his Russian pronunciation . . . don't you like Fischer-Dieskau in the Haitink?

[snyprrr]

Is an Orthodox bass wanted for Op.135?  And apart from his Russian pronunciation . . . don't you like Fischer-Dieskau in the Haitink?

Actually, listening last night, I WANTED to be an idiot, but HAD to agree that Fischhead was 'pleasing'. Perhaps he sounded a bit higher than I would have liked, and didn't have that phlegm pit of molasses - just listen to the 'Response' movement to hear how these singers either 'get', or don't get the 'personality'. Fischhead's more of a singer here than a Total Personality,- but, yea,---

actually, the only criticism of the bass singers, in general, probably hasn't been their fault. Many of these recordings seem to recess the singers (Wigglesworth?) to the point of losing the ineffable. So, frankly, at least Fischhead's recorded well! (and yes, he's 'good' here) The 'live' Barshai was the best overall 'impact' of ANY recording- you could hear his reverb in the hall just as well as the rest (oh- duh- was that added later??).


Gaah- I feel like you're all having an intervention on me, haha!! heavy lifting involved!!

[snyprrr]

How bout we all take cocktail break and meet back here at six?

[springrite]

I like the Haitink Shosty 13!

(Cocktail obliged...)

[Karl Henning]

I like the Haitink Shosty 13!

(Cocktail obliged…)

Yes!

[snyprrr]

I like the Haitink Shosty 13!

(Cocktail obliged...)

I do too, but it's the only one I've ever had... and Rintzler doesn't sound Russian!

[snyprrr]

Again, I wonder how Shirley-Quirk fares in No.13...

[springrite]

Again, I wonder how Shirley-Quirk fares in No.13...

I think this is the one I have. I like it (and I usually don't like guys named Shirley).

[Karl Henning]

I do too, but it's the only one I've ever had... and Rintzler doesn't sound Russian!

Leiferkus with Masur is great;  as is Aleksashkin with Jansons.  What's keeping you?!

[Karl Henning]

Ghiuselev with Slava is good, too.

[Ken B]

I think this is the one I have. I like it (and I usually don't like guys named Shirley).

That's an odd quirk.

[North Star]

Aleksashkin with Jansons.

Hear, hear!

That's an odd quirk.

I would have thought that, Shirley, you would understand.

[snyprrr]

Don't call me Shirley!!

[Karl Henning]

Don't call me Shirley!!

Only I know you prefer "Lulu"!

[Karl Henning]

And- can't they flippin' get a SUPER BASS to sing 13/14???

Ryssov is great in the Op.135, and Mikuláš in the Op.113.

No idea if Marina Shaguch will serve you in the Op.135;  but I love her voice and performance.