The greatest Richard Strauss tone poems not written by Richard Strauss?

[mc ukrneal]

As much as I love both of them, are they Straussian?

And what exactly do we mean by that?

Is the thread title trying ot say that the sound of the tone poems should sould like Strauss? That is not what I understood.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

I understand the title to be - tone poems influenced by the example of Richard Strauss. The composers I mentioned - Delius, Karlowicz and Brian - don't sound like Strauss, but they certainly studied his works and learnt from him (especially his spectacular orchestration).

[Maciek]

Well, I don't know. I think that, near the beginning, Stanislaw and Anna actually does sound like Strauss. (Maybe I need to renew my acquaintance with Strauss, though. It's been a while. )

[eyeresist]

To be clear, I am asking for music which prompts you to think, "This could almost be Strauss." (This prompted by the observation that Alassio was the greatest tone poem Strauss never wrote.)


And when I said "What do we mean by that?", I meant "What do we mean by the adjective Straussian?", i.e. what are the specifics of his technique, sensibility, sound that we identify as uniquely (or perhaps NOT so uniquely) his.

[J.Z. Herrenberg]

Well, I don't know. I think that, near the beginning, Stanislaw and Anna actually does sound like Strauss. (Maybe I need to renew my acquaintance with Strauss, though. It's been a while. )

Hm. I think you're right (playing it inside my head now). But the total effect and atmosphere of the work is Karlowiczian. Although Karlowicz certainly took some pointers in orchestral technique from his German contemporary, especially in this work.

[Mirror Image]

Two more picks: Schoenberg's Pelleas und Melisande and Bartok's Kossuth.

[eyeresist]

I have updated the List.

After listening to Bax's Tintagel again, I admit I can hear resemblances to the Alpensinfonie.

[Dax]

Szymanowski: Concert Overture
Szymanowski: Symphony No. 2

Tone poems?   

[Wanderer]

Suk's tone poems (A Summer's Tale, Ripening, Epilogue) should also be considered.