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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2007, 10:07:47 AM »
Most interesting, Al!

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2007, 10:18:54 AM »
Great post, Al.  His music is "wearing well" to my ears; his innovations don't sound dated, as I thought they might over time.  I wish more of his work would show up in concerts, and that still isn't happening.  All of those works you cite are well worth exploring and getting to know, and certainly repay the time investment. 

The Viola Concerto, in particular, is one of the best concertos for that instrument.  If you haven't seen the DVD of Yuri Bashmet performing it (with Gergiev and Vienna), do check it out!

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2007, 09:03:40 PM »
I don't know much about this composer, is he tonal? Hard to listen to for newbies? 'Cause I get lost at most 20th/21st century stuff...

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2007, 09:45:49 PM »
I don't know much about this composer, is he tonal? Hard to listen to for newbies? 'Cause I get lost at most 20th/21st century stuff...
Sometimes, sometimes not. And very often he's both tonal and atonal in the same work. It's all a bit post-modern. ;)
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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2007, 08:35:50 PM »
Sometimes, sometimes not. And very often he's both tonal and atonal in the same work. It's all a bit post-modern. ;)

Wow, that must be harsh on my young ears :)

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #45 on: August 24, 2007, 07:57:29 AM »
Just notice that Berkshire has no fewer than four versions of the Piano Quintet.  I have heard all but the first one, but I imagine the Borodins are quite good, too.  The last three are superb.

Schnittke, String Quartet #3; Piano Quintet. Mahler / Schnittke, Piano Quartet. (Ludmilla Berlinsky, piano. Borodin String Quartet. Total time: 66') 
Add to cart | Price: $ 7.99 | Country: GERMANY | D/A code: Digital | Code: 7590402 | BRO Code: 134229 | Label: VIRGIN
Genre: Chamber Music 

Schnittke, Piano Trio {1992}; Piano Quintet {1972-1976}. (Barbican Piano Trio w.Jan Peter Schmolck, violin & James Boyd, viola. Total time: 57'03') 
Add to cart | Price: $ 5.99 | Country: ENGLAND | D/A code: Digital | Code: BBM 1093 | BRO Code: 129014 | Label: BLACK BOX
Genre: Chamber Music 

Schnittke, Piano Quintet; 3 Madrigals for Soprano & 5 Instruments; Serenade for Clarinet, Violin, Double Bass, Percussion & Piano; String Trio. (Capricorn Ensemble) 
Add to cart | Price: $ 6.99 | Country: ENGLAND | D/A code: Digital | Code: CDA 66885 | BRO Code: 124101 | Label: HYPERION
Genre: Chamber Music 

Schnittke, Piano Quintet {w.Gary Graffman, piano}. Shostakovich, String Quartet #3. (All w.Moscow String Quartet) 
Add to cart | Price: $ 5.99 | Country: AMERICA | D/A code: Analogue | Code: FAC 9804-2 | BRO Code: 120555 | Label: FINER ARTS CLASSICAL
Genre: Chamber Music

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #46 on: August 24, 2007, 09:27:43 AM »
Wow, that must be harsh on my young ears :)
please try the 1st cello sonata at least

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2007, 09:31:01 AM »
I don't know much about this composer, is he tonal? Hard to listen to for newbies? 'Cause I get lost at most 20th/21st century stuff...
they have some free stuff on:
http://www.classicalarchives.com

you have to register, but it's easy. Also, he has quite a bit on youtube.

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #48 on: August 24, 2007, 09:29:54 PM »
they have some free stuff on:
http://www.classicalarchives.com

you have to register, but it's easy. Also, he has quite a bit on youtube.

Alright thanks. I'm hearing his cello sonata right now. ;)

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2007, 06:23:47 PM »
Alright thanks. I'm hearing his cello sonata right now. ;)
sweeeeeet
and with your avatar it's almost like i'm talking to a hot lady who is enjoying my own musical interests, wow...... that's like magical, really  :-X

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2007, 09:02:42 PM »
sweeeeeet
and with your avatar it's almost like i'm talking to a hot lady who is enjoying my own musical interests, wow...... that's like magical, really  :-X

rofl...keep reminding yourself, you're talking to the "racist" bonehead, not the hot lady! :D

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #51 on: January 08, 2008, 05:11:46 PM »
Just got the string quartets, played by Kronos, well needless to say being a DSCH i love this!!!!

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #52 on: January 08, 2008, 08:04:18 PM »
Just got the string quartets, played by Kronos, well needless to say being a DSCH i love this!!!!

Strange, considering the Kronos recording is dreadful. Try the Tale (more virulence and power) or the Lark (greater detail and better sound quality).

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #53 on: January 08, 2008, 09:41:27 PM »
Well i haven't heard any other versions so i can't compare, i don't think the sound quality is bad, but if this is the worst i can only imagine how it is the best.

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #54 on: January 09, 2008, 06:15:52 AM »
remind me to post some thoughts here, if i can eventually sort them out. In short, i think i've found a new top 5 favorite composer!  0:) 0:) 0:)

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #55 on: January 09, 2008, 01:32:07 PM »
what's up with this site:
http://www.alfredschnittke.com/

 ???

here's a link with 5 min of his 9th:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/arts/music/07symp.html
« Last Edit: January 09, 2008, 01:42:34 PM by 僕はグレグ (Greg) »

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #56 on: January 09, 2008, 01:42:58 PM »
what's up with this site:
http://www.alfredschnittke.com/

 ???

It seems to be something of a conceptual art project, by Nathan Beach, a web designer who apparently lives near Dallas, Texas.  I found it awhile back and thought it was fun, not to mention a pretty fair translation of Schnittke's style into visual terms.

http://www.nathanbeach.com/about.html

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #57 on: January 09, 2008, 01:52:29 PM »
It seems to be something of a conceptual art project, by Nathan Beach, a web designer who apparently lives near Dallas, Texas.  I found it awhile back and thought it was fun, not to mention a pretty fair translation of Schnittke's style into visual terms.

http://www.nathanbeach.com/about.html

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ummmm ok

i don't think it works, though, it's not dark enough for one.... and there's too much random stuff. lol

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #58 on: January 09, 2008, 01:56:53 PM »
I found this on Beach's site:

"An artistic tribute to the late great Russian-German composer, Alfred Schnittke. Many thanks to B. A. Eisemann for introducing me to Schnittke while driving the back roads of the 75080 with the windows down. I really wasn't meaning to cause any negative controversy with this web site, but a few people left some unpleasant comments in the guestbook (now removed from the domain). However, I think Alfred would like the site. I was in Hamburg -- completely coincidentally -- the day he died. I hope people understand that Schnittke Is Everywhereâ„¢."

He seems to be espousing a philosophy, rather than summing up the composer, like some kind of "Schnittke for President" campaign.  ;D

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Re: Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2008, 02:00:16 PM »
Strange, considering the Kronos recording is dreadful. Try the Tale (more virulence and power) or the Lark (greater detail and better sound quality).





I agree, especially on the Lark.