J.S. Bach on the Organ

[Marc]

Marc you: It is reasonable to number them y chorale, but non ence to do it by performer.

And the Bachcantatas site is not the most authoritative source I know.

Marc me? 

Me Marc, You Premont.
You always serious , Me not.
Me was joking about Numbers.
Me should have added zmiley.
Me apology.

Me also go to bed, Me tired.
Me listened a lot to post-punk Noise from 80s.
Me head hurts.

[jlaurson]

Marc you: It is reasonable to number them by chorale, but nonsense to do it by performer.

Ughh.... I was searching for a particular interpretation of a chorale by that particular name by Bach--without being sure whether it was actually 957. There are two of Weinberger's that fit the bill, so for my 'internal' search I dubbed them Weiny1 & Weiny2. With that in mind, I wrote what i wrote. I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition, geez-louise. 

[prémont]

Me listened a lot to post-punk Noise from 80s.
Me head hurts.

Better to listen to some Bach.
You will get no pain in your bachhead for that reason (typo intended - contrary to the typos above).

[prémont]

Ughh.... I was searching for a particular interpretation of a chorale by that particular name by Bach--without being sure whether it was actually 957. There are two of Weinberger's that fit the bill, so for my 'internal' search I dubbed them Weiny1 & Weiny2. With that in mind, I wrote what i wrote. I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition, geez-louise. 

Sounds reasonable. I have lighted my pipe of peace, even if I never smoke.

[Renfield]

The counterpoint in this thread hit Bach-like proportions for a stretch.

[Marc]

Talking about counterpoint ....

Thanks to some global connections I was able to find this link:

http://avaxhome.ws/music/classical/bach_kunst_der_fuge.html

It's is a live recording of Die Kunst der Fuge in May 2007 (broadcast?): Alessio Corti playing on the Tamburini organ of the Protestant Church in Milan, Italy.

http://rapidshare.com/files/226357060/ArteFuga.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/226370171/ArteFuga.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/226378753/ArteFuga.part3.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/331834167/Locandina.rar

[Marc]

A famous piece, played by Dutch organist Bram Beekman (De Rijckere organ [1781], Oostkerk, Middelburg, NL):

http://www.mediafire.com/?ynzymytmqqm

Another one that belongs to the 'greatest hits' (IMO): Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ BWV 639.

http://www.mediafire.com/?nhm3ndzjkgy

Soli Deo Gloria (BWV 676):

http://www.mediafire.com/?townvjknmzt

And here's Bram celebrating the Dutch victory today over the Danes. May it serve as a comfort to Premont : In dir ist Freude BWV 615.

http://www.mediafire.com/?3vj0jzyze5y

FWIW: I rate Beekman's Bach very high, especially in the chorales. No wonder: Beekman is Dutch for Bachmann.

[prémont]

And here's Bram celebrating the Dutch victory today over the Danes. May it serve as a comfort to Premont : In dir ist Freude BWV 615.

No use to deny, that the Dutch play some "things" better than the Danes e.g. organ and football. 

[Marc]

No use to deny, that the Dutch play some "things" better than the Danes e.g. organ and football. 

Well, the Danes still have Marcussen, Bryndorf .... and Euro 1992.

[Coopmv]

A famous piece, played by Dutch organist Bram Beekman (De Rijckere organ [1781], Oostkerk, Middelburg, NL):

http://www.mediafire.com/?ynzymytmqqm

Another one that belongs to the 'greatest hits' (IMO): Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ BWV 639.

http://www.mediafire.com/?nhm3ndzjkgy

Soli Deo Gloria (BWV 676):

http://www.mediafire.com/?townvjknmzt

And here's Bram celebrating the Dutch victory today over the Danes. May it serve as a comfort to Premont : In dir ist Freude BWV 615.

http://www.mediafire.com/?3vj0jzyze5y

FWIW: I rate Beekman's Bach very high, especially in the chorales. No wonder: Beekman is Dutch for Bachmann.

The Danes could use a lot many players like Michael Laudrup ...

[Marc]

Been listening to Volume 2 of Canadien Bernard Lagacé's Bach integral.



His playing is OK, no nonsense with a touch of legato, but I do not like the sound of the organ at all. It's a 1961 Von Beckerath (Immaculate Conception Church, Montréal, Canada) and apparantly it's a genuine pipe organ, but it sounds more like an electronic instrument to me.

Can't be a specific Beckerath-thing, I'd say. I though that the Beckerath in Montélimar, France, played by a.o. Vernet, sounded quite all right.
And, although this was only my first encounter with Lagacé, I also think that Vernet is a more interesting Bach organist than the Canadian.

[Marc]

Another one for Que (and for other members, too, of course 0:)): real good Bach stuff by Ewald Kooiman.
Taken from some OOP discs that were recorded before his second integral.

Agricola/Schnitger/Hinsz organ, Martinikerk, Groningen, NL:

Toccata in F-Major BWV 540-1
http://www.mediafire.com/?ztjedj4yyzz

Vom Himmel kam der Engel Schar BWV 607
http://www.mediafire.com/?33zm5h2hze2

Meine Seele erhebet den Herren BWV 648
http://www.mediafire.com/?wdzdjgyndgt

Ein feste Burg ist unser Gott BWV 720
http://www.mediafire.com/?afnmynzqhem

Heyneman organ, Sint Jan-kathedraal, Den Bosch, NL

Concerto in C-Major BWV 595
http://www.mediafire.com/?ymnmldym5ti

Herr Jesu Christ, dich zu uns wend' BWV 726
http://www.mediafire.com/?mjlddjytnrz

Wir Christenleut BWV 1090
http://www.mediafire.com/?miozwm4owtt

Herr Gott, nun schleuß den Himmel auf BWV 1092
http://www.mediafire.com/?bzmwzke3irj

Herzliebster Jesu, was hast du verbrochen BWV deest
http://www.mediafire.com/?vvegy3goz2b

Ich ruf zu dir, Herr Jesu Christ BWV deest
http://www.mediafire.com/?dmxtyzddmzl

Stellwagen organ, Jacobikirche, Lübeck, D

Jesus, meine Zuversicht BWV 728
http://www.mediafire.com/?2dmnzjgujge

Schonat/Van Hagerbeer/Duyschot organ, Nieuwe Kerk, Amsterdam, NL

Prelude & Fugue in D-Major 532
http://www.mediafire.com/?zedtzyh4jwn

Prelude & Fugue in A-minor BWV 543
http://www.mediafire.com/?niymtwnnxym

I hope all files work well.
Enjoy!

[prémont]

Thanks, Marc, very interesting for me too.
The links seem to work well.

[Marc]

Thanks, Marc, very interesting for me too.
The links seem to work well.

I got the discs (Coronata) from the library.
The discs were called Virtuose Orgelmusik and Berühmten historischen Orgeln. Labelnos.: COR 1206 & 1207.

My first impressions were that the 'younger' Kooiman was less exuberant than the 'older' Kooiman during his integral in the Nineties.

[prémont]

My first impressions were that the 'younger' Kooiman was less exuberant than the 'older' Kooiman during his integral in the Nineties.

I have to wait and hear until to morrow (or to be exact: later to day), - you know, bedtime impending.

[Marc]

Yeah, bedtime. I almost forgot that.

Sweet dreams!

[Opus106]

Thank you, Marc.

[Que]

Another one for Que (and for other members, too, of course 0:)): real good Bach stuff by Ewald Kooiman.
Taken from some OOP discs that were recorded before his second integral.

Terrific Marc - many, many thanks!

I definitely wanted to hear more by Kooiman. Let's hope that 2nd cycle will resurface soon. Maybe the people at Brilliant would be interested?

Q

[Marc]

Thanks, Marc, very interesting for me too.

Thank you, Marc.

Terrific Marc - many, many thanks!

You're all very welcome. My pleasure.
Some of Kooiman's Coronata discs can still be found on the internet, but in decreasing numbers.

I definitely wanted to hear more by Kooiman. Let's hope that 2nd cycle will resurface soon. Maybe the people at Brilliant would be interested?

Or maybe his heirs will re-issue Kooiman's 2nd integral on Aeolus, because of the unexpected end of the 3rd after Kooiman's sudden death in 2009.
Either way, it would be nice for those who weren't or aren't able to get the genuine Coronata cycle.
And I also think Kooiman, being one of the best interpreters of Bach's organ music, deserves an IN PRINT cycle!

[prémont]

Seems as if Kooiman´s unfinished third cycle will become completed by some of his pupils and released at last. 

Links:
http://www.aeolus-music.com/ae_en/More/News-and-articles/Future-of-the-big-Bach-organ-music-SACD-project-started-with-Ewald-Kooiman

http://www.aeolus-music.com/ae_en/More/News-and-articles/New-SACD-recordings-for-the-Bach-Organ-Project