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Brian

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 26, 2009, 07:28:33 AM
Chapter 2 of a charming work-in-progress by our own Cato.
Are the bad guys named Kevin and Brian:D

Florestan

Quote from: DavidRoss on May 26, 2009, 07:25:51 AM
Tao Te Ching is written as advice to a ruler who would be wise; it is largely a treatise on the art of governance.

In this context, those three lines as translated by Mitchell don't make much sense. No wise ruler would stay passive when his enemies begin arming themselves.

There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

DavidRoss

Quote from: Florestan on May 26, 2009, 08:06:24 AM
In this context, those three lines as translated by Mitchell don't make much sense. No wise ruler would stay passive when his enemies begin arming themselves.
Again, Mitchell's lines are not even an attempt at translation.  His book is not a translation, but a adaptation based on other translations, not on the Chinese text.  Passages like the one under discussion should make the liability clear, as well as the presumptuousness of Mitchell's claim to be "translating the mind of Lao Tzu."
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Florestan

Quote from: DavidRoss on May 26, 2009, 08:52:49 AM
Again, Mitchell's lines are not even an attempt at translation.  His book is not a translation, but a adaptation based on other translations, not on the Chinese text.  Passages like the one under discussion should make the liability clear, as well as the presumptuousness of Mitchell's claim to be "translating the mind of Lao Tzu."

To me the passage under discussion looks like sentimentaloid flower power hogwash which bear no relationship whatsoever to the real world.
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy

Solitary Wanderer



The Bronte Yearbook by Juliet Barker.

Each day of the year is represented by a piece of writing from one of the Bronte's. They used to date everything they wrote so this concept is possible. Quite a neat and rewarding idea  :)
'I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.' ~ Emily Bronte

bhodges

Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on May 26, 2009, 12:45:16 PM


The Bronte Yearbook by Juliet Barker.

Each day of the year is represented by a piece of writing from one of the Bronte's. They used to date everything they wrote so this concept is possible. Quite a neat and rewarding idea  :)

Thanks for mentioning this!  I have a friend who is a huge fan of their work, and she will love knowing this exists.

--Bruce

Solitary Wanderer

Quote from: bhodges on May 26, 2009, 12:47:03 PM
Thanks for mentioning this!  I have a friend who is a huge fan of their work, and she will love knowing this exists.

--Bruce

You're welcome Bruce. Juliet Barker is an established Bronte expert whose written several much respected books about them. This is a delightful book to browse  :)
'I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.' ~ Emily Bronte

Solitary Wanderer



Beautiful photo book covering the life and times of Grace Kelly  :)
'I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.' ~ Emily Bronte

Solitary Wanderer



I'd love to visit Easter Island one day. This book provides some fascinating background on the life of the island and its inhabitants.
'I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.' ~ Emily Bronte

DavidRoss

Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on May 26, 2009, 12:51:16 PM
Beautiful photo book covering the life and times of Grace Kelly  :)
Gosh, she looks like an ordinary pretty girl in that photo, and not the luminous Helen of Troy depicted in so many closeups on the silver screen.  My heart didn't even skip a beat.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

hildegard

Quote from: DavidRoss on May 26, 2009, 07:25:51 AM
Such scenarios transpired constantly during the period in which the Tao Te Ching was written.  The Warring States period in what came to be a unified China was a time much like that the entire world is experiencing now, with constant warfare and strife among competing states striving for domination.  Tao Te Ching is written as advice to a ruler who would be wise; it is largely a treatise on the art of governance.

Tao is the natural "way," which men have lost.  And there's no "may be" about it: Mitchell's interpolation has nothing to do with the text, which here reads the same in both Han era scrolls and in the later "received" texts.  The passage has nothing to do with fear, enemies, or defense;  it is about the grievous consequences of desire, discontent, and covetousness, consistent with the wisdom teachings of the world's great religions--lessons which humankind is no closer to learning today than 2500 years ago.

DavidRoss -- thanks very much for this information. I have yet another version of the Tao somewhere, but cannot seem to put my hands on it. Now, I'm more curious to compare the differences.

Bogey

Quote from: DavidRoss on May 26, 2009, 01:29:27 PM
Gosh, she looks like an ordinary pretty girl in that photo, and not the luminous Helen of Troy depicted in so many closeups on the silver screen.  My heart didn't even skip a beat.

My GK radar is usually pretty sharp, but I had to do a double take as well.
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Brian

Quote from: DavidRoss on May 26, 2009, 01:29:27 PM
Gosh, she looks like an ordinary pretty girl in that photo, and not the luminous Helen of Troy depicted in so many closeups on the silver screen.  My heart didn't even skip a beat.
I don't know ... I didn't mind that photo at all!  0:)

Bogey

Quote from: Brian on May 26, 2009, 07:16:10 PM
I don't know ... I didn't mind that photo at all!  0:)

Not a bad photo Brian, unless you are Grace Kelly:

     

That should do.  ;)
There will never be another era like the Golden Age of Hollywood.  We didn't know how to blow up buildings then so we had no choice but to tell great stories with great characters.-Ben Mankiewicz

Diletante

Orgullosamente diletante.

DavidRoss

Quote from: Brian on May 26, 2009, 07:16:10 PM
I don't know ... I didn't mind that photo at all!  0:)
See Rear Window.  Ms Kelly is not that movie's only attraction, but....
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

Brian

They don't make 'em like they used to.  :)

CD

Well, no hot chicks here, but I nonetheless enjoyed The Glass Bead Game so much I decided to take a trip through the parts of Hesse's oeuvre which I have hitherto neglected.

Starting today:


Opus106

Currently: The Clicking of Cuthbert - a selection of short stories centred around golf - Pelham Grenville W. I've had enough of golf for now, (and I can well imagine how a protagonist from one of those stories would react to such a statement ;D) so after the current story, I will be picking up Piccadilly Jim.

Two books borrowed from the library, today:

The Genius of Science, by Abraham Pais. Pais was a very respected science historian and author, particularly in the field of physics. His other, more famous book Subtle is the Lord, is considered by many to be the definitive biography of Einstein's scientific life. The present book deals with the lives and works of the pioneers of the physics of the early twentieth century.

Also, Roger Kamien's Music - An Appreciation, 7th Ed.
Regards,
Navneeth

Florestan

Barry Unsworth - The Stone Virgin

So far, so good. I like the plot (reminded me a bit of J. L. Carr's "A Month In The Country") and the style.
There is no theory. You have only to listen. Pleasure is the law. — Claude Debussy