Mahler Mania, Rebooted

[PerfectWagnerite]

Abbado II, Simonov. "BR Klassik Cycle". Nott*. Kubelik. Solti, as mentioned. "Telarc Cycle". Tennstedt Big Box Cycle... possibly others, as I'm not through the whole list yet.

Just looking at my shelves I see Neumann/Czech PO only has 1-9.

[SurprisedByBeauty]

Just looking at my shelves I see Neumann/Czech PO only has 1-9.

Not even right after the First Symphony? The newer box (I overlooked it at first, too) has it, at least.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Not even right after the First Symphony? The newer box (I overlooked it at first, too) has it, at least.

You are correct my bad.

Does this hodge-podge count?
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[Ghost of Baron Scarpia]

Not even right after the First Symphony? The newer box (I overlooked it at first, too) has it, at least.

Easy to miss because Amazon has it under a misleading title ("1-9") even though the 10 Adagio is there.

[SurprisedByBeauty]

You are correct my bad.

Does this hodge-podge count?
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Yes, I might include that, actually.

[Ghost of Baron Scarpia]

I don't know what counts as an "incomplete cycle" but one possibility is Neuman/Gewandhaus. I have seen 5, 6, 7 and 9. It is possible there are others.

[SurprisedByBeauty]

I don't know what counts as an "incomplete cycle" but one possibility is Neuman/Gewandhaus. I have seen 5, 6, 7 and 9. It is possible there are others.

Neuman Gewandhaus is awfully incomplete -- but that which is in it is soooo good, so I might include it -- if I can find all albums in one place or in print.
If so, then I would also include non-cycle cycles of Walter and Klemperer, Tennstedt LIVE, and Barbirolli.

Other incomplete cycles (more obviously cycles, at that) are Haitink/Berlin, Haitink/Kerstmatinees, Kondrashin, Levine, Mácal, Abbado/Lucerne, Chailly/Leipzig.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Yes, I might include that, actually.

It is actually not bad, number 2 and 8 are pretty weak but the rest are actually surprisingly good.

[Ghost of Baron Scarpia]

Neuman Gewandhaus is awfully incomplete -- but that which is in it is soooo good, so I might include it -- if I can find all albums in one place or in print.
If so, then I would also include non-cycle cycles of Walter and Klemperer, Tennstedt LIVE, and Barbirolli.

Other incomplete cycles (more obviously cycles, at that) are Haitink/Berlin, Haitink/Kerstmatinees, Kondrashin, Levine, Mácal, Abbado/Lucerne, Chailly/Leipzig.

They are hard to find. I have 5 on Brilliant Classics and 9 on Berlin Classics. I don't know how to get the others.

It might be worth making some reference to fragments accompaning complete cycles, such as Neuman Gewandhaus along side Neuman Czech, Haitink/Berlin along side Haitink Concertgebouw, Chailly/Leipzig alongside Chailly Concertgebouw, etc.

[PerfectWagnerite]

They are hard to find. I have 5 on Brilliant Classics and 9 on Berlin Classics. I don't know how to get the others.

7 seems readily available also from Berlin Classics:

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[Ghost of Baron Scarpia]

Good find. My googling skills failed me.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Good find. My googling skills failed me.

6 seems to be available from some scalper:

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(what odd coupling !)

[SurprisedByBeauty]

They are hard to find. I have 5 on Brilliant Classics and 9 on Berlin Classics. I don't know how to get the others.

It might be worth making some reference to fragments accompaning complete cycles, such as Neuman Gewandhaus along side Neuman Czech, Haitink/Berlin along side Haitink Concertgebouw, Chailly/Leipzig alongside Chailly Concertgebouw, etc.

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Namely -- that instead of going strictly chronological in this presentation, I will go Alphabetically by conductor. This makes the presentation of such almost-cycles much more natural, I should think.

Thanks for finding the Neumann 6th. Now it's just down to waiting for Berlin Classics to re-issue it.

[André]

That's exactly what I'm thinking. Namely -- that instead of going strictly chronological in this presentation, I will go Alphabetically by conductor. This makes the presentation of such almost-cycles much more natural, I should think.

Thanks for finding the Neumann 6th. Now it's just down to waiting for Berlin Classics to re-issue it.

Preferably on a single disc, Beethovenless.

[SurprisedByBeauty]

Preferably on a single disc, Beethovenless.

Indeed. More preferably still, perhaps, boxed with the other three Mahler Symphonies from Leipzig with him.

In fact, I could also think of a neat historic GDR Mahler cycle, methinks. With some Roegner, Herbig, Neumann et al. Anyone fancy that idea?

[Biffo]

I have Symphonies 4, 5 & 9 on Brilliant discs, they are part of a Symphonies Edition in cardboard sleeves and they are numbered CD73, 74 and 79. I bought them individually on ebay.  No 4 is from Harmut Haenchen and the Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra, Nos 5 & 9 from Neumann and the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra. Presumably this edition contained a complete Mahler cycle but who conducted the others I have no idea.

[mc ukrneal]

I have Symphonies 4, 5 & 9 on Brilliant discs, they are part of a Symphonies Edition in cardboard sleeves and they are numbered CD73, 74 and 79. I bought them individually on ebay.  No 4 is from Harmut Haenchen and the Netherlands Philharmonic Orchestra, Nos 5 & 9 from Neumann and the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra. Presumably this edition contained a complete Mahler cycle but who conducted the others I have no idea.

Brilliant once came out with a big box called the Complete Symphony Set. It had 200+ symphonies and I believe this is where you got those cds from.

[Biffo]

Brilliant once came out with a big box called the Complete Symphony Set. It had 200+ symphonies and I believe this is where you got those cds from.

Thanks for the info. Checking my collection, I have the complete Mozart Symphonies (Jaap ter Linden/Mozart Akademie Amsterdam) and Haydn's London Symphonies (Adam Fischer/Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra) from the same box. Several years ago there was a seller on ebay who broke up Brilliant Boxes and sold the discs individually or in batches. No idea what his source was, presumably returns.

[mc ukrneal]

Thanks for the info. Checking my collection, I have the complete Mozart Symphonies (Jaap ter Linden/Mozart Akademie Amsterdam) and Haydn's London Symphonies (Adam Fischer/Austro-Hungarian Haydn Orchestra) from the same box. Several years ago there was a seller on ebay who broke up Brilliant Boxes and sold the discs individually or in batches. No idea what his source was, presumably returns.

Here's a link http://www.arkivmusic.com/classical/album.jsp?album_id=176769. Arkiv seems to be the only one still with a listing (or perhaps it had another name).

[André]

Indeed. More preferably still, perhaps, boxed with the other three Mahler Symphonies from Leipzig with him.

In fact, I could also think of a neat historic GDR Mahler cycle, methinks. With some Roegner, Herbig, Neumann et al. Anyone fancy that idea?

Absolutely ! Herbig is excellent in the Mahler 5th and 6th - overlapping with Neumann, though. Rögner's 3rd is one of my top 3 versions for that work.