My string quartet

[Rod Corkin]

I'd sooner waste my time on this site than yours.   Most people who come to places like this are "givers" rather than "takers" in my experience, and the takers don't generally last long.  Unless one is a complete novice I don't believe any music Board is useful from the learning perspective. I've learned far more about music from various other sources, and I never seek or take Board recommendations about the "best" recordings, as they're all generally biased or partial.  As far as I'm concerned, Boards are mainly useful to participate in/observe gossip about what's going in the music scene, and to poke fun at idiots who take their own assumed importance all too seriously.

I have presented lots of tracks here before but the hoods weren't interested, so I created my own site and have given a hell of a lot more, with nothing in it for me other than the desire to discuss the music concerned. So don't make out I'm someone on the take. But I agree what you say about message boards and learning, which is why I created a site concentrating primarily on recordings and discussion of interpretations, with the tracks as 'illustrations'. The stuff you read in books is best read from a book, but you can't judge a performance from words alone.

If you want to read gossip and poke fun at idiots you can read a tabloid. Those who are not musicians will not really be interested in the music 'scene'. I'm afraid that only leaves the music, much as that pains the hoods here. Gossip away here if you must though, I'll be doing that in the bar tonight watching the match. Now that's the place for gossip!

[Rod Corkin]

We're all waiting on tenterhooks for the Second Quartet.

Well the topic was diverted by a snide, unprovoked remark about my site, but you are right, time to get back on topic, my second quartet!

[lukeottevanger]

I have presented lots of tracks here before but the hoods weren't interested, so I created my own site and have given a hell of a lot more, with nothing in it for me other than the desire to discuss the music concerned.

But Rod - and I haven't been brave enough to look at your forum yet, so I'm only going on your posts here - when on your Bach/Handel thread I and others repeatedly tried to 'discuss the music' with you, you always proved unwilling to actually do so. Usually you seemed to prefer to present another track, which, whatever its merits may or may not be, is not actually discussing music. I'm not being unpleasant when I say that I'm seriously racking my brains to think of anything you've said that is of musical substance. Whereas Karl, Sforzando, Gurn (to mention only recent posters on this thread) have frequently proved themselves capable of doing so.

This and the illiteracy of your 'Quartet' - I know, a 'joke', but a peculiarly unfunny one because its lack of care for proper notation and ugly presentation make it appear less a clever critique than an angry little man's fumbling splutter - leave me to conclude that you don't really have anything to say about music. About conspiracy theories, yes; about facts and dates of Beethoven biography, yes - but music itself? No, most music seems to leave you belligerent, or bitter, or both.

[karlhenning]

We're all waiting on tenterhooks for the Second Quartet.

I'm not.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I'm not.

Don't worry, whether you are or not, I'm sure we'll have to endure it.

[Florestan]

Don't worry, whether you are or not, I'm sure we'll have to endure it.

No, we don't. A troll lives only as long as someone feeds it.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I'm not being unpleasant when I say that I'm seriously racking my brains to think of anything you've said that is of musical substance... you don't really have anything to say about music.

But he can tell a good tune from a crap one, and that is all he or indeed any person needs. Alas few people have this gift it seems.

[(poco) Sforzando]

No, we don't. A troll lives only as long as someone feeds it.

Yes, of course. But in this case it is amusing to observe the troll feeding.

[MN Dave]

No, we don't. A troll lives only as long as someone feeds it.

0:)

[Florestan]

Yes, of course. But in this case it is amusing to observe the troll feeding.

Up to a point, yes. After that it becomes as boring as it gets.

[Rod Corkin]

Up to a point, yes. After that it becomes as boring as it gets.

You are absolutely correct, which is why I was waiting to see how long I could keep you wolves occupied before you would realise that my hallowed Op2 was not forthcoming. 

8 pages and 151 replies is not bad! 

[MN Dave]

Suckers! 

[lukeottevanger]

On the contrary, we composed your op 2 for you pages ago - the two notes B flat and E flat, if you will recall - thus making any further composition on your part unnecessary (and not a word of thanks! )

[Rod Corkin]

On the contrary, we composed your op 2 for you pages ago - the two notes B flat and E flat, if you will recall - thus making any further composition on your part unnecessary (and not a word of thanks! )

Stop hogging the glory, one could say I beat Cage at his own game once more, producing a work with no name, no opus, no score (not even a blank one), nothing! Makes Cage's 'piece' look like a trial of effort in comparison.

Heck, my genius strikes again!

[lukeottevanger]

Ha! That piece has been composed infinite times already, I'm afraid. I thought you of all people would be aware of Beethoven's            and Handel's              . Though, I'm sorry to say, Bach's            is just that little bit better than the latter.

[Rod Corkin]

Ha! That piece has been composed infinite times already, I'm afraid. I thought you of all people would be aware of Beethoven's            and Handel's              . Though, I'm sorry to say, Bach's            is just that little bit better than the latter.

I should not be surprised you critisise my methods yet have not even looked at my site by your own admission. But only the index and general forum is accessible to guests, all the (in my opinion) more interesting forums, you have to register to get into. But it is laughable that you make out I was avoiding discussion at my Bach/Handel topic whilst making out the likes of Henning were the bastion of intelligent discourse. The fact was that it was impossible to hold a discussion in the thread because Henning and the other children were filling it with dozens of one-line wisecracks. So any more interesting posts were separated by a dozen pieces of crap from the boot boys. I presume the topic is still to be found here as proof of what I'm saying. So please don't insult my intelligence by suggesting I was avoiding anything. We all know what goes on here, don't waste anymore of your time trying to state otherwise.

[lukeottevanger]

I should not be surprised you critisise my methods yet have not even looked at my site by your own admission. But only the index and general forum is accessible to guests, all the (in my opinion) more interesting forums, you have to register to get into.

Is that so? What a useful way of swelling member numbers! 'All the good stuff's in here, but you have to join before you can see it!'

But it is laughable that you make out I was avoiding discussion at my Bach/Handel topic whilst making out the likes of Henning were the bastion of intelligent discourse. The fact was that it was impossible to hold a discussion in the thread because the likes of Henning and the other children were filling it with dozens of one-line wisecracks. So any more interesting posts were separated by a dozen pieces of crap from the boot boys. So please don't insult my intelligence by suggesting I was avoiding anything. We all know what goes on here, don't waste anymore of your time trying to state otherwise.

All I can say, Rod, is that I made number of attempts to engage with you on musical territory, and you steadfastly held off from doing so or glided over what I had said because it didn't fit with your conspiracy theories. In the end, that becomes tiring, and one-liners are all that is left - you have only yourself to blame. And btw, it doesn't matter how many other posts of other sorts were also on the thread - to suggest that they made a musical response from you impossible is disingenuous. The quote button isn't hard to use properly to remind a person of the points being replied to (though you seem not to have done so just now )

Karl's entitled to post in whatever way he wishes - all I'll say is that he is equally capable of great musical insight and.....oh yeah, actually creating very fine music himself. So I take what he has to say seriously.

[Florestan]

If you don't like GMG and its members why do you keep posting here? Nobody forced you to register nor to stay.

[(poco) Sforzando]

If you don't like GMG and its members why do you keep posting here? Nobody forced you to register nor to stay.

Feeding the troll, Mr. Florestan? 

[Florestan]

Feeding the troll, Mr. Florestan? 

Yes, with a common-sense cake.