Love: A Zero Sum Game?

Started by Paul-Michel, April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM

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Paul-Michel

Sometimes, the more you love something, the more you hate everything else.

If not hate, you might have no love left, as all our emotions are finite.

My problem is that I listen regularly to:

Bruckner 7
Bruckner 8
Cavalleria Rusticana
Parsifal
Beethoven 7
Sibelius 4

And very little else.

I have no energy left; the more I love them, the more disregarding I am of everything else. I can't seem to help it.

MN Dave

Soon you will tire of them and look upon them with disgust. ;)

karlhenning


Don

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM
Sometimes, the more you love something, the more you hate everything else.

If not hate, you might have no love left, as all our emotions are finite.

My problem is that I listen regularly to:

Bruckner 7
Bruckner 8
Cavalleria Rusticana
Parsifal
Beethoven 7
Sibelius 4

And very little else.

I have no energy left; the more I love them, the more disregarding I am of everything else. I can't seem to help it.

That's the limited love theory, and it's a bunch of crap.

karlhenning

Quote from: Don on April 11, 2008, 08:12:02 AM
That's the limited love theory, and it's a bunch of crap.

Hear, hear.

BachQ

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM
all our emotions are finite.

Does anyone else buy into this logic? 

MN Dave

Quote from: Dm on April 11, 2008, 11:39:42 AM
Does anyone else buy into this logic? 

I second that emotion.

BachQ

Quote from: MN Dave on April 11, 2008, 11:44:22 AM
I second that emotion.

Ordinarily, I would respond to this, but all of my emotions were used up in my previous post, and I have none left over for this post ........

MN Dave

Quote from: Dm on April 11, 2008, 11:53:54 AM
Ordinarily, I would respond to this, but all of my emotions were used up in my previous post, and I have none left over for this post ........

:D

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: Dm on April 11, 2008, 11:53:54 AM
Ordinarily, I would respond to this, but all of my emotions were used up in my previous post, and I have none left over for this post ........

;D
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

Wanderer

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM

And very little else.


I'm curious as to what these might be.


Dm, what's this place in your avatar?  8)

The new erato

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Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM
, as all our emotions are finite.
I don't think so. And overexposure to somethings usually ends up in ennui.

The more i like/love a piece of art, the more I need to know what came before/after it, what influenced it, what other artists contemporaneous (? - difficult word, please enlighten me you native Englishspeakers) were doing, etc.

I'm very easily sidetracked.

Paul-Michel

Quote from: erato on April 11, 2008, 11:34:13 PM
I don't think so. And overexposure to somethings usually ends up in ennui.

The more i like/love a piece of art, the more I need to know what came before/after it, what influenced it, what other artists contemporaceous (? - difficult word, please enlighten me you native Englishspeakers) were doing, etc.

I'm very easily sidetracked.

Yes, I know what you mean Erato.

However, if you consider artistic development as a whole, that is, intellectual development and not individual artists, I think it is then analogous to watching a director's old film to see how his ideas first developed, before they reached their peak in a later effort.

I do not doubt that it is interesting, but it is most likely that you will return to the magnum opus. The same for music, art, and probably anything else.

Don, Karl: If love is not finite, why are you monogamous?

finally, if you love tonality, and Wagner took it as far as it can go, why bother with anything else? There is no doubt that some classical music is objectively better than others.

Renfield

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 11:56:46 PM
Don, Karl: If love is not finite, why are you monogamous?

finally, if you love tonality, and Wagner took it as far as it can go, why bother with anything else? There is no doubt that some classical music is objectively better than others.

I will for the moment ignore (or rather not comment on) your logic. But I will note that regardless, you are missing their point.


You know what? No, I can't not comment: what about semantics? Thrown out the window? Specificity?

Do you presume to think philosophically,  or is it me reading more into your aphorisms than they merit?

If love might be limited, nerve certainly seems like it isn't: here's an aphorism for you, sir.

Paul-Michel

Quote from: Renfield on April 12, 2008, 12:56:42 AM
I will for the moment ignore (or rather not comment on) your logic. But I will note that regardless, you are missing their point.


You know what? No, I can't not comment: what about semantics? Thrown out the window? Specificity?

Do you presume to think philosophically,  or is it me reading more into your aphorisms than they merit?

If love might be limited, nerve certainly seems like it isn't: here's an aphorism for you, sir.

Nonsensical and boring.

prémont

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM

all our emotions are finite.

Talk for yourself.


Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM
My problem is that I listen regularly to:




Parsifal




And very little else.

There is a big problem.  :o
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Renfield


Don

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 11:56:46 PM

Don, Karl: If love is not finite, why are you monogamous?


A much better issue to look at would be having children.  Can you love only your first child?  What about couples who have, say, 8 children?  Paul-Michel has decided to go with his limited love theory; that's a choice he's made that he can change at any time when he wakes up to reality.

71 dB

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM
Sometimes, the more you love something, the more you hate everything else.

If not hate, you might have no love left, as all our emotions are finite.

My problem is that I listen regularly to:

Bruckner 7
Bruckner 8
Cavalleria Rusticana
Parsifal
Beethoven 7
Sibelius 4

And very little else.

I have no energy left; the more I love them, the more disregarding I am of everything else. I can't seem to help it.

Seems very limited to me. I'd like to listen to Parsifal but I don't have any recording of it.
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marvinbrown

Quote from: Paul-Michel on April 11, 2008, 02:06:37 AM
Sometimes, the more you love something, the more you hate everything else.

If not hate, you might have no love left, as all our emotions are finite.

My problem is that I listen regularly to:

Bruckner 7
Bruckner 8
Cavalleria Rusticana
Parsifal
Beethoven 7
Sibelius 4

And very little else.

I have no energy left; the more I love them, the more disregarding I am of everything else. I can't seem to help it.

  Very little else  ???  :o :o

Those are some fine compositions but as far as I am concerned Beethoven's 3rd,5th, and 9th Symphonies are NOT to be missed and personally I prefer them (they are better  ;)) than the 7th Symphony.

  Parsifal is a masterpiece, I'll grant you that! After all look at my avatar  0:).  That said Tristan und Isolde and the Ring Cycle are NOT to be missed and I prefer them (they are better  ;))  than Parsifal.

  Bruckner's 7th and 8th are GREAT.  Although I wouldn't want to be without the the 5th, 9th and the Nullte Symphonies.

  Paul-Michel don't be afraid to branch out a bit.  I think you'll find that there are a lot of masterpieces out there that deserve your full attention as well.

  71dB if you are looking for GREAT recording of Parsifal try this:

 

  marvin