Obama quits Chicago church after long controversy

Bunny · June 02, 2008, 11:01:07 AM

Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 07:44:44 AM
You folks are being very hard on poor Obama. I have belonged to temple memberships all my life and could care less what the religious leaders think; hell, I don't even know what they think. I just show up and try to get into an insular trance (like when I have a root canal procedure).

To me, religious views and practices are very private. So as far as I'm concerned, Obama can go, stay or whatever. I'm still voting for him.

Good for you! Religious views are private until you run for President; that's where privacy ends. I couldn't vote for someone who believed that the Jews killed Jesus and deserved to be punished any more than I could vote for a Muslim who believed all women should wear a veil. Religious views of an elected leader should be known and examined closely. They are free to worship or not worship in what ever manner they please, but the voter also have the right to know what they've been listening to every Sunday because it has affected their thoughts and opinions.

Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 10:08:35 AM

Simple answer - WIFE.

What a cop out!

He's sat in a racist church for 20 odd years to please his wife? Isn't that the woman who said she was ashamed of America? Maybe he should dissociate himself from her along with Rev. Wright.

Don · June 02, 2008, 11:09:24 AM

Quote from: Bunny on June 02, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
What a cop out!

He's sat in a racist church for 20 odd years to please his wife? Isn't that the woman who said she was ashamed of America? Maybe he should dissociate himself from her along with Rev. Wright.

I was referring to why I am a member of a temple. What Obama does religion-wise is his business.

Overall, I am so tired of our supposed need and right to know just what each candidate is doing with his/her religion. My guess is that everyone of them spouts some sort of religious feeling; whether they really feel anything is up for grabs and none of my business.

So I disagree with your assessment, feeling that religion is entirely private. I certainly have no interest in the subject and don't want to hear any politician telling me about his/her religious convictions. I could never vote for a person who keeps telling me - "I am a person of faith".

Al Moritz · June 02, 2008, 11:44:25 AM

Quote from: Bunny on June 02, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
I couldn't vote for someone who believed that the Jews killed Jesus

who is a Jew himself. So, where does that leave us, racism-wise?

маразм1 · June 02, 2008, 11:51:52 AM

Quote from: Don on June 02, 2008, 10:10:11 AM
Funny you would say the above, because Obama's got a lot more on the ball than you do. And, he's much more mature.

If I had a privilege of being born Black, trust me, I'd be on top of the world right now.

Lethevich · June 02, 2008, 11:54:37 AM

Quote from: Al Moritz on June 02, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
who is a Jew himself. So, where does that leave us, racism-wise?

No way man, Jesus looks like this

маразм1 · June 02, 2008, 11:58:40 AM

Quote from: Lethe on June 02, 2008, 11:54:37 AM
No way man, Jesus looks like this

Yeah, here Jesus looks gay here...

Al Moritz · June 02, 2008, 12:07:26 PM

Quote from: маразм1 on June 02, 2008, 11:58:40 AM
Yeah, here Jesus looks gay here...

I am a practicing Christian, but nonetheless I had to giggle mightily when I read this ...

маразм1 · June 02, 2008, 12:08:39 PM

Quote from: Al Moritz on June 02, 2008, 12:07:26 PM
I am a practicing Christian, but nonetheless I had to giggle mightily when I read this ...

haha

mn dave · June 02, 2008, 12:11:21 PM

Jesus was a homosexual, black Jew. So what?

Don · June 02, 2008, 12:12:56 PM

Quote from: маразм1 on June 02, 2008, 11:51:52 AM
If I had a privilege of being born Black, trust me, I'd be on top of the world right now.

If it's okay with you, I'd rather reserve my trust.

маразм1 · June 02, 2008, 12:14:27 PM

Quote from: mn dave on June 02, 2008, 12:11:21 PM
Jesus was a homosexual, black Jew. So what?

no, Jesus was just black, and he was living in a country run by white Italians -- Just like Obama. (according to jeremiah wright)

Bunny · June 02, 2008, 01:48:56 PM

Quote from: Al Moritz on June 02, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
who is a Jew himself. So, where does that leave us, racism-wise?

At least quote me in context. I stated :

Quote from: Bunny on June 02, 2008, 11:01:07 AM
Good for you! Religious views are private until you run for President; that's where privacy ends. I couldn't vote for someone who believed that the Jews killed Jesus and deserved to be punished any more than I could vote for a Muslim who believed all women should wear a veil. Religious views of an elected leader should be known and examined closely. They are free to worship or not worship in what ever manner they please, but the voter also have the right to know what they've been listening to every Sunday because it has affected their thoughts and opinions.

What a cop out!

He's sat in a racist church for 20 odd years to please his wife? Isn't that the woman who said she was ashamed of America? Maybe he should dissociate himself from her along with Rev. Wright.

I don't care what anyone believes. I just don't want to be punished for something that took place more than 2,000 years ago.