The Chat Thread

[Elgarian]

Sarge always knows where his towel is.

Spot on, Karl.

[ibanezmonster]

Have I entered a lunatic asylum? 

Sarge

Maybe, but at least we have our straight jackets on, so we can't hurt each other.

[Sergeant Rock]

But it might have been Wooster.

We'll always have Wooster...

Sarge

[Karl Henning]

I'll say it again: I had the greatest time going back to Wooster to play.

[ibanezmonster]

Hmmm... researching for an essay, and I'm learning something in detail that explains this quite well.
Metal was created by Black Sabbath (and Judas Priest followed shortly after)... I know that. I know they are from England, but after that, I didn't know much.

Birmingham, England, where they both grew up, during the 60s, was a town filled with factories everywhere, and basically, they were poor and working-class, pretty much doomed to work in factories the rest of their lives. This bleak, hopeless outlook (combined with the young people straying from the church) is the explanation for the birth of heavy metal. The music is influenced by the sounds of the factory.

Am I the only person who didn't know this? (and shouldn't I have known this already)? 

[Szykneij]

Hmmm... researching for an essay, and I'm learning something in detail that explains this quite well.
Metal was created by Black Sabbath (and Judas Priest followed shortly after)... I know that. I know they are from England, but after that, I didn't know much.

Birmingham, England, where they both grew up, during the 60s, was a town filled with factories everywhere, and basically, they were poor and working-class, pretty much doomed to work in factories the rest of their lives. This bleak, hopeless outlook (combined with the young people straying from the church) is the explanation for the birth of heavy metal. The music is influenced by the sounds of the factory.

Am I the only person who didn't know this? (and shouldn't I have known this already)? 

I didn't know that and I find it quite interesting. What did you discover to be the best source for that info, Greg?

[eyeresist]

Saying that Black Sabbath "created" heavy metal is going a bit far. Especially since the both the Stooges and Led Zeppelin were founded before them.

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/history/

[Ataraxia]

I'd say Sabbath made it heavy and Priest made it metal. 

[Ataraxia]

Hmmm... researching for an essay, and I'm learning something in detail that explains this quite well.
Metal was created by Black Sabbath (and Judas Priest followed shortly after)... I know that. I know they are from England, but after that, I didn't know much.

Birmingham, England, where they both grew up, during the 60s, was a town filled with factories everywhere, and basically, they were poor and working-class, pretty much doomed to work in factories the rest of their lives. This bleak, hopeless outlook (combined with the young people straying from the church) is the explanation for the birth of heavy metal. The music is influenced by the sounds of the factory.

Am I the only person who didn't know this? (and shouldn't I have known this already)? 

Greg, have you seen this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal:_A_Headbanger's_Journey

[ibanezmonster]

Greg, have you seen this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal:_A_Headbanger's_Journey

Nope, but it looks good. I might have to watch that! 

I didn't know that and I find it quite interesting. What did you discover to be the best source for that info, Greg?

I found the article on an Academic Search Complete database, but after googling it, it's on scribd, so here's a link:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/51819567/Leigh-Michael-Harrison-Factory-Music-How-the-Industrial-Geography-and-Working-Class-Environment-of-Post-War-Birmingham-Fostered-the-Birth-of-Heavy

Saying that Black Sabbath "created" heavy metal is going a bit far. Especially since the both the Stooges and Led Zeppelin were founded before them.

http://www.anus.com/metal/about/history/

I'm interested in which songs you think are heavy metal, since I don't really listen to many of these bands much.

To many people (and me, unless you can convince me otherwise), this is the first metal song ever:

http://www.youtube.com/v/akt3awj_Ah8&feature=channel

What is this that stands before me?
Figure in black which points at me
Turn around quick, and start to run
Find out I'm the chosen one
Oh nooo!
Big black shape with eyes of fire
Telling people their desire
Satan's sitting there, he's smiling
Watches those flames get higher and higher
Oh no, no, please God help me!
Is it the end, my friend?
Satan's coming 'round the bend
People running 'cause they're scared
The people better go and beware!
No, no, please, no!

[Lethevich]

IMO the first album in the style of heavy metal that was to become mainstream and copiable (Sabbath are too distinctive to represent anything other than themselves) was Priest's Stained Class (1978) or perhaps Sin After Sin (1977):

http://www.youtube.com/v/KO2DYwvseiY http://www.youtube.com/v/H_mpt8xyZVI

[Ataraxia]

IMO the first album in the style of heavy metal that was to become mainstream and copiable (Sabbath are too distinctive to represent anything other than themselves) was Priest's Stained Class (1978) or perhaps Sin After Sin (1977):

http://www.youtube.com/v/KO2DYwvseiY http://www.youtube.com/v/H_mpt8xyZVI

0:)

[Ataraxia]

Nope, but it looks good. I might have to watch that! 

Yes, give it a look.

[DavidW]

I'd say Sabbath made it heavy and Priest made it metal. 

Exactly!

[Ataraxia]

Lately I've been bored with pretty much everything I usually find interesting.

Ho hum.

[DavidW]

Lately I've been bored with pretty much everything I usually find interesting.

Ho hum.

That's usually a sign of depression...

[Ataraxia]

That's usually a sign of depression...

Well, I don't feel depressed that I can tell. I think it's just a sign of everything losing its glamour.

I'm old. 

[DavidW]

Man getting old sounds like it sucks!

[Ataraxia]

Man getting old sounds like it sucks!

Yes, looking behind the bright, shiny curtain isn't something for which everyone's prepared.

[Karl Henning]

 Quote from: DavidW on Today at 02:56:20 PM

Man getting old sounds like it sucks!

 
Better than the alternative. Even when zombies are not involved.  (Or even when zombies are involved?)