The Chat Thread

[Scarpia]

That sounds like it. Thanks, doc!

Please send you Blue Cross insurance ID number and SSN for billing purposes.   

[Ataraxia]

Please send you Blue Cross insurance ID number and SSN for billing purposes.   

It's in the mail!

[DavidRoss]

How it that misleading? (Unless, of course, you expect Snopes to pander to people who read no more than the first few sentences of any piece of writing.)

Uh, isn't that whom they pander to? (Along with almost everyone else.  )

How is it misleading? Are you serious? Per the bigot press stories painting Romney as a fool for thinking airplane windows should roll down like car windows (and you know damned well that's the impression such stories are maliciously calculated to give), Snopes lead their reportby saying:

TRUE: Mitt Romney said he did't know why airplane windows don't open.

If they weren't being misleading, they would have qualified the comment as a joke right up front, instead of burying that fact 6 paragraphs down.

[Opus106]

Snopes lead their reportby saying:
If they weren't being misleading, they would have qualified the comment as a joke right up front, instead of burying that fact 6 paragraphs down.

And what about the statement directly beneath the opening line, which says in a different wording that he wasn't being serious?

As long as the context is provided clearly (i.e. not as a passing remark, in a footnote or on another webpage), I wouldn't label this particular 'snope' misleading.

[Brian]

If they weren't being misleading, they would have qualified the comment as a joke right up front, instead of burying that fact 6 paragraphs down.

This is the problem with Mitt Romney: his sense of humor is so epically terrible that nobody can tell the jokes from the not-jokes. He should get his jokes from a 7-11 bakery.

Side note

I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Karl Henning]

. . . Per the bigot press stories painting Romney as a fool for thinking airplane windows should roll down like car windows . . . .

Of course, I am apt to think of the press as an organ capable of being improved, rather than as the Enemy (not that you are necessarily doing so, Dave; it was certainly something of a pastime in the GOP primaries, though, wasn't it?)

I should have said Per the bigot stories . . . It may simply be that I am more selective in my news sources, but I didn't read anything of that in the papers I follow.  I should probably not have heard it at all, save for its appearance (where else?) on Twitter ; )

[Karl Henning]

This is the problem with Mitt Romney: his sense of humor is so epically terrible that nobody can tell the jokes from the not-jokes. He should get his jokes from a 7-11 bakery.

Yes, whatever story is there, it falls in line with Mitt the Wooden.

Side note

I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bravo! : )

[Papy Oli]

I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

congrats ! ok now, off you go the purchases thread... sharpish.... 

[Brian]

congrats ! ok now, off you go the purchases thread... sharpish.... 

I did have a vow to myself that if I got a job before Presto's Harmonia Mundi sale ended, I could buy all the Harmonia Mundi CDs I want. Good thing my new job has a pay rise, because my order will be $300!!

[DavidRoss]

And what about the statement directly beneath the opening line, which says in a different wording that he wasn't being serious?

Huh? It's not directly beneath, it's 27 lines later.

[DavidRoss]

I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

YIPPEEE!!!!!!

[North Star]

Side note

I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congrats!

[CriticalI]

Uh, isn't that whom they pander to? (Along with almost everyone else.  )

How is it misleading? Are you serious? Per the bigot press stories painting Romney as a fool for thinking airplane windows should roll down like car windows (and you know damned well that's the impression such stories are maliciously calculated to give), Snopes lead their reportby saying:
If they weren't being misleading, they would have qualified the comment as a joke right up front, instead of burying that fact 6 paragraphs down.

After looking at this story, I really think you're overreacting in exactly the way you're accusing Snopes of doing, taking snippets and refusing to allow for tone or context. The whole article has a tone of debunking an example of the media miscontruing facts for the sake of a funny story. Consider the opening:

Claim: Mitt Romney said he thinks airplane windows should be able to roll down in case of fire.

MIXTURE:

TRUE: Mitt Romney said he didn't know why airplane windows don't open.

FALSE: Mitt Romney expressed genuine confusion about why airplane windows don't open.

Maybe you were just looking for something, anything, to be angry about?

[TheGSMoeller]

Who would win in a fight? A gorilla, or a bear? And I'm thinking the largest size of each.

This could be epic.

[CriticalI]

Who would win in a fight? A gorilla, or a bear? And I'm thinking the largest size of each.

Bear, obviously. Bigger and heavier, with a thicker coat and nasty claws.

Cavemen vs Astronauts?


See also Metric's song Stadium Love.

[TheGSMoeller]

Bear, obviously. Bigger and heavier, with a thicker coat and nasty claws.

Cavemen vs Astronauts?


See also Metric's song Stadium Love.

Easy, caveman.

And I feel the Gorilla might be a little more agile than the bear.

[CriticalI]

Easy, caveman.

And I feel the Gorilla might be a little more agile than the bear.

Oh, you're so wrong - WRONG!

Don't you know astronauts are trained in martial arts?

Bears too.

[TheGSMoeller]

Oh, you're so wrong - WRONG!

Don't you know astronauts are trained in martial arts?

Bears too.

But caveman are trained in clubbing...and, hair pulling.

[Opus106]

Who would win in a fight? A gorilla, or a bear? And I'm thinking the largest size of each.

This could be epic.

Didn't Discovery Channel make a programme out of this concept which involved bad animation and animal experts talking trash?

Re: Caveman vs Astronaut, the latter's immobility while wearing the suit -- the suit is a must! -- clearly signals his/her defeat. But at the same, it prevents any hair being pulled.

[mahler10th]

Turns out I'm a gorilla hybrid, and only last week I laid three bears flat out for obstructing my journey to a top secret test facility in the Nevada deserts.