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North Star

Quote from: Opus106 on September 27, 2012, 09:54:11 PM
Didn't Discovery Channel make a programme out of this concept which involved bad animation and animal experts talking trash?

Re: Caveman vs Astronaut, the latter's immobility while wearing the suit -- the suit is a must! -- clearly signals his/her defeat. But at the same, it prevents any hair being pulled.
You forgot one thing: the caveman loses because he cannot breath outside of the atmosphere  ;).
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Opus106

Quote from: North Star on September 27, 2012, 11:35:46 PM
You forgot one thing: the caveman loses because he cannot breath outside of the atmosphere  ;).

No, I assumed it was taking place on land. :P Were the fight to take place in outer-space, he would die soon after launch, succumbing to the G-forces acting on his suit-less body. Astronaut would win by 'forfeiture', in that case.
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Navneeth

Florestan

Quote from: Brian on September 27, 2012, 11:47:03 AM
I GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's some terrific news! Congratulations! What kind of job is it if I may ask?
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CriticalI

Quote from: Opus106 on September 27, 2012, 09:54:11 PMDidn't Discovery Channel make a programme out of this concept which involved bad animation and animal experts talking trash?

Re: Caveman vs Astronaut, the latter's immobility while wearing the suit -- the suit is a must! -- clearly signals his/her defeat. But at the same, it prevents any hair being pulled.

Those suits are pretty tough, so no chance of a cracked skull, and stabbing would be chancy at best. Besides, the astronauts I envisage have laser guns. How could they not?!?

Opus106

Quote from: CriticalI on September 28, 2012, 02:54:07 AM
Those suits are pretty tough, so no chance of a cracked skull, and stabbing would be chancy at best. Besides, the astronauts I envisage have laser guns. How could they not?!?

The caveman topples him over. Water supply lasts, maybe, for a few hours. And that's it.
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Navneeth

TheGSMoeller

Another Epic Battle...

Daffy Duck vs. Donald Duck

PaulR

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 28, 2012, 03:49:49 AM
Another Epic Battle...

Daffy Duck vs. Donald Duck
Question:  Is Bugs Bunny and/or Elmur Fudd with Daffy, or no?>

CriticalI

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 28, 2012, 03:49:49 AMAnother Epic Battle...

Daffy Duck vs. Donald Duck

Wasn't that settled in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

North Star

Quote from: PaulR on September 28, 2012, 03:58:32 AM
Question:  Is Bugs Bunny and/or Elmur Fudd with Daffy, or no?>
That would mean that Donald is with Scrooge and Gyro Gearloose, among others.
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PaulR

Quote from: North Star on September 28, 2012, 04:17:16 AM
That would mean that Donald is with Scrooge and Gyro Gearloose, among others.
So the real questions:  Whose sidekicks screw up more?

DavidRoss

Quote from: CriticalI on September 27, 2012, 05:46:59 PM
After looking at this story, I really think you're overreacting in exactly the way you're accusing Snopes of doing, taking snippets and refusing to allow for tone or context. The whole article has a tone of debunking an example of the media miscontruing facts for the sake of a funny story. Consider the opening:

Maybe you were just looking for something, anything, to be angry about?
A) I'm not angry
B) It's exactly as I've described, whether you are willing to recognize that or not. Let me repeat the point that you missed and Navneeth glossed: Most readers really do glean what they believe from headlines and the opening paragraph. When Snopes gauges the story as TRUE at the top of the piece, and debunks it only 27 lines later, they're misleading.

Whether that's intentional or not is another issue and not one anyone has discussed here. Bigoted, yes, but not necessarily intentional (unlike much of what passes for journalism these days, especially by the slimebags from Journolist and its decendents). Bigots don't intend to be bigoted and almost never believe that they're so irrationally prejudiced.  They just believe things that condition their worldview so thoroughly that they're blind to the fact of their own prejudice and cannot see how it colors everything they see.





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DavidRoss

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 27, 2012, 06:37:10 PM
But caveman are trained in clubbing...and, hair pulling.
Caveman clubbing?

Here you go:
http://www.youtube.com/v/Fcpo1Rtaflo
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CaughtintheGaze

Quote from: DavidRoss on September 28, 2012, 04:35:39 AM
B) It's exactly as I've described, whether you are willing to recognize that or not. Let me repeat the point that you missed and Navneeth glossed: Most readers really do glean what they believe from headlines and the opening paragraph. When Snopes gauges the story as TRUE at the top of the piece, and debunks it only 27 lines later, they're misleading.

This is quite true. The Drudge Report and the Huffington Post are also both guilty of this kind of work, and that it was hidden within the text, for me, implicates them in their intentionality.

Karl Henning

Quote from: TheGSMoeller on September 28, 2012, 03:49:49 AM
Another Epic Battle...

Daffy Duck vs. Donald Duck

That was the variety act in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? ; )
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: CriticalI on September 28, 2012, 04:05:21 AM
Wasn't that settled in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Another party I'm late to : )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

DavidRoss

Quote from: karlhenning on September 28, 2012, 05:48:17 AM
Another party I'm late to : )
Hope it's not too late. That was brilliant at the time. Whether it holds up still, after Pinky & the Brain and Pixar, I couldn't say.
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: CriticalI on September 28, 2012, 04:05:21 AM
Wasn't that settled in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?

Quote from: karlhenning on September 28, 2012, 05:47:34 AM
That was the variety act in Who Framed Roger Rabbit? ; )

The winners!

DavidRoss

I like the turn this thread has taken. Brings back warm memories of my nephew at the age when he was always asking such questions, perhaps brought on by his first viewing of the original King Kong!
"Maybe the problem most of you have ... is that you're not listening to Barbirolli." ~Sarge

"The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people's money." ~Margaret Thatcher

TheGSMoeller

Humphrey Bogart vs. Harrison Ford

Opus106

Anime Greg vs. Monkey Greg
Regards,
Navneeth