The one recording you believe everyone should own

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Sammy

Quote from: DavidRoss on July 17, 2012, 04:30:25 PM
If for no other reason than the cover art alone!
Actually methinks it pretty damned good -- one of those rare Naxos discs that lives up to the hype. (Though Don -- or Don -- might disagree.) ;D

Not at all.  If Nikolayeva didn't exist, Scherbakov would be my standard.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on July 17, 2012, 04:25:18 PM
Maybe to keep the peace we should all just grab this Scherbakov and bin our Nikolayeva/Ashkenazy. ;D

Of course, some of us esteem both highly : )
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Dancing Divertimentian

Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Mandryka

#264
mjwal put me on to this CD, and I never thanked him at the time. I should have -- it really did change my way of seeing Schumann (because of the Zender Phantasie -- don't be put off if you've been disapponted by Zender's Debussy and Schubert. This is in a different league.) and Ravel (because of the Kondrashin Rhapsodie espagnol). It also changed my whole perception of late romantic and early 20th century music. And my understanding of what it means for a transcription to be transcendent. This is one CD which I think everyone should listen to. No need to own it though, it's on spotify:

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

jlaurson

Quote from: DavidRoss on July 17, 2012, 04:17:07 PM
Quote from: CaughtintheGaze on July 17, 2012, 04:09:26 PM
Quote from: Rhymenoceros on July 16, 2012, 08:00:26 PM
Shostakovich's Preludes and Fugues by Ashkenazy
Jenny Lin is my choice.
Gosh. And to think I've been content with Sherbakov...

Jarrett, Lin, Scherbakov, Nikolayeva II, Ashkenazy, Stone, Nikolayeva III, Jalbert

Melnikov I haven't heard, but desperately want to... I expect a lot from him.

Dancing Divertimentian

Quote from: jlaurson on July 19, 2012, 06:43:57 AM
Jarrett, Lin, Scherbakov, Nikolayeva II, Ashkenazy, Stone, Nikolayeva III, Jalbert


Not to forget the grandaddy's of them all in Op.87: the snippets from Richter and Shostakovich himself. They lack completeness of course but in hindsight this probably should've been my starting point.



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

jwinter

 Quote from: Annie on July 16, 2012, 12:09:19 PM >
   
That's a great choice.

This is an impossible task, of course.  I have more Beethoven on my shelf than anything else, so I suppose I'll go with this (reserving the right to pick something else tomorrow  ;D  ):



It's a very unusual performance, slower than even Celibidache I think.  And yet Bohm somehow makes it work, and the textures that he is able to bring out of the orchestra because of it are just gorgeous.  Probably not so good as an introduction to the work, but something that a Beethoven lover should definitely hear.
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

Ataraxia

Quote from: jwinter on July 19, 2012, 12:11:03 PM
It's a very unusual performance, slower than even Celibidache I think.  And yet Bohm somehow makes it work, and the textures that he is able to bring out of the orchestra because of it are just gorgeous.  Probably not so good as an introduction to the work, but something that a Beethoven lover should definitely hear.

I had a Bohm Ninth on DG a looong time ago (vinyl!). How many times did he record it for them?

Fafner

Quote from: MN Dave on July 19, 2012, 12:14:39 PM
I had a Bohm Ninth on DG a looong time ago (vinyl!). How many times did he record it for them?

The recording cited is digital, and I think it was his last recording.  I was warned off of it because it was slow, but those were thd days when you were considered a lunatic if you owned more than one recording of any given piece of music.  He did a stereo cycle in the 70's with Vienna and there are some earlier recordings with Berlin, but I don't know if it was a complete cycle. 

Ataraxia

#270
Quote from: Fafner on July 19, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
The recording cited is digital, and I think it was his last recording.  I was warned off of it because it was slow, but those were thd days when you were considered a lunatic if you owned more than one recording of any given piece of music.  He did a stereo cycle in the 70's with Vienna and there are some earlier recordings with Berlin, but I don't know if it was a complete cycle.

I remember it being in a box and I remember him on the cover conducting. This was late '70s/early 80s.

jwinter

I haven't seen an early Berlin 9th, but that doesn't mean it ain't out there.  The one I cited is indeed digital.  The 9th in the Vienna complete set is certainly good, but this has a very unique quality.  I can well understand why you'd be warned off it unless you were collecting 9ths -- it's certainly not how I'd introduce the work to someone.
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

jwinter

Quote from: Annie on July 19, 2012, 12:31:34 PM
[quote  I have more Beethoven on my shelf than anything else...



this my distribution of thousands of cds :)

collections, like rubinstein's set, are not in the composer's part and different composer couplings are ignored. nothing after the romantic era

That's neat, the wonders of spreadsheets...

Mine's probably not too far off that.  I'd definitely need to add individual slices of pie for Mahler, Bruckner, Chopin, & Brahms -- depends on what's the threshhold for "other"...
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

Fafner

#273
Quote from: MN Dave on July 19, 2012, 12:30:37 PM
I remember it being in a box and I remember him on the cover conducting. This was late '70s/early 80s.

On LP the digital recording was in a box that looked like this:




Ataraxia


Opus106

Quote from: jwinter on July 19, 2012, 12:11:03 PM


...something that a Beethoven lover should definitely hear.

Well, I'm glad that that event is in my past. 0:)

Thread Duty (even though I don't really mean it :P):

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Navneeth

jwinter

 Quote from: Opus106 on Today at 04:07:28 AM
Well, I'm glad that
that event is in my past. 0:)
 
A bit too slow, eh?   ;D    Try the Leinsdorf 9th we mentioned over in the Beethoven on Record thread, that'll perk you right up.   ;)
The man that hath no music in himself,
Nor is not moved with concord of sweet sounds,
Is fit for treasons, stratagems, and spoils.
The motions of his spirit are dull as night,
And his affections dark as Erebus.
Let no such man be trusted.

-- William Shakespeare, The Merchant of Venice

Opus106

Quote from: jwinter on July 20, 2012, 06:25:32 AM
A bit too slow, eh?   ;D    Try the Leinsdorf 9th we mentioned over in the Beethoven on Record thread, that'll perk you right up.   ;)

Thanks, but I have Herreweghe waiting in the queue! >:D ;)
Regards,
Navneeth

Ataraxia

Quote from: jwinter on July 20, 2012, 06:25:32 AM
Quote from: Opus106 on Today at 04:07:28 AM
Well, I'm glad that
that event is in my past. 0:)
 
A bit too slow, eh?   ;D    Try the Leinsdorf 9th we mentioned over in the Beethoven on Record thread, that'll perk you right up.   ;)

I ordered a copy of the Bohm for nostalgia's sake.

North Star

Quote from: Opus106 on July 20, 2012, 06:27:45 AM
Thanks, but I have Herreweghe waiting in the queue! >:D ;)
Now that's the stuff this thread is perhaps made of, maybe.
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