Is the composer obsolete?

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ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on February 02, 2016, 01:29:02 PM
I was there (the 60s) and I think North Star is correct. The rallying cry (that was derided by the conservative establishment) was, Make love, not war.

Sarge
Well at least love isn't organised mass murder

Cato

Quote from: North Star on February 02, 2016, 12:29:50 PM
I'd guess it's more in reference to free love and drugs. There was plenty of war before and after Vietnam.

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on February 02, 2016, 01:29:02 PM
I was there (the 60s) and I think North Star is correct. The rallying cry (that was derided by the conservative establishment) was, Make love, not war.

Sarge

It is basically impossible to find any kind of consistency in the contradictions, biases, and outright fantasies creating the Weltanschauung of Mr. Jones!   $:)

On topic, Jones might answer that the composer is definitely NOT obsolete, but that he must be a follower of the school of e.g. Mendelssohn, like former GMG member (and acolyte of Mendelssohn par excellence) Saul, since the music of Herr Wagner muss verboten werden.   ;)

Given the rise of "You Too Can Be A Composer" software, human composers would seem to be on the rise!  ;)   One must, however, wonder about the quality of the music.
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Sergeant Rock

Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 02, 2016, 01:40:39 PM
Well at least love isn't organised mass murder

I've experienced both: I prefer love over war. Unfortunately, there is no consensus on that...and the violence will continue.

Sarge
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"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
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Monsieur Croche

Quote from: Cato on February 02, 2016, 01:54:28 PM
Given the rise of "You Too Can Be A Composer" software, human composers would seem to be on the rise!  ;)   One must, however, wonder about the quality of the music.

One needn't wonder at all; Youtube abounds with freshly created MIDI marvels replete with the lowest grade Garittan sound samples as the medium of choice for playback, most of the instrumental families sounding like one of several varieties of a Kazoo....  Proportionately fewer pieces of the same ilk can be found in many an internet music fora's 'new compositions' category. Ironically, the more wonder-less and shapeless these are, the more likely they are to be mentioned by their authors as 'a composition.'  :)

Earlier pre-internet generations learned, by running their first/early essays by other musicians, teachers, mentors, etc. that part and parcel of learning to write meant the near-inevitability of writing a lot of pretty bad music before it went to anything better, or what was [and was not] worth presenting to a larger public. One can bypass all those filters now by going directly to post on the internet... ahhhh.
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ComposerOfAvantGarde

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M. Croche, that is why I would often delete something off my Soundcloud when I no longer feel that it is up to my current best efforts.

Monsieur Croche

#285
Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 03, 2016, 06:08:50 PM...that is why I would often delete something off my Soundcloud when I felt it was no longer up to my current best efforts.

Admirable.  8)
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Uhor

Every note must know what all the others are doing and what they do shall go beyond or divert from what has been done of which they must be aware, after that good luck.

jochanaan

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on February 02, 2016, 01:56:50 PM
I've experienced both: I prefer love over war. Unfortunately, there is no consensus on that...and the violence will continue.

Sarge
+1
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