The one recording you think everyone should bin

[Bogey]

I like a lot of Pinnock recordings a GREAT deal!

The irony is that I find his Water Music effort the best I have heard to date.

I have this set. What's wrong with it? 

Absolutely nothing if you enjoy them....I just find them "flat".

[Sergeant Rock]

The irony is that I find his Water Music effort the best I have heard to date.

His Fireworks, too...utterly magnificent with a rhythmic and dynamic flare that is breathtaking.

Sarge

[71 dB]

Absolutely nothing if you enjoy them....I just find them "flat".

Well, somehow I have managed to enjoy the set. It never occured me it could be flat. I haven't heard any other performance so I can't compare. What would you recommend as "non-flat" version?

[PerfectWagnerite]

His Fireworks, too...utterly magnificent with a rhythmic and dynamic flare that is breathtaking.

Sarge

If you really want to hear a GREAT Firework I recommend this one:

[BorisG]

The irony is that I find his Water Music effort the best I have heard to date.

Absolutely nothing if you enjoy them....I just find them "flat".

I just realized that all Water Music and Royal Fireworks recordings should be binned.

[Que]

To give only one example:

MUSSORGSKI: Boris Godunov, by Claudio Abbado (with Kotcherga, Leiferkus). A version without life, presence (the choir in the first scene seems an exercise in the Conservatory, when compared to the Melik-Pachaev version) and with the most mediocre Boris I ever heard. And that has nothing to do with the choice of the original version or the one of Rimski.

Good example Val. Wholeheartedly seconded.



Q

[PerfectWagnerite]

Good example Val. Wholeheartedly seconded.



Q

If I am not mistaken the libretto for that recording is in Russian-Cyrillic (and English). Now unless you can read Cyrillic what use is it

[karlhenning]

Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are: I might have binned.

[karlhenning]

If I am not mistaken the libretto for that recording is in Russian-Cyrillic

You could say simply, in Russian.  It is Russian transliterated into Roman letters which is unusual 

[Que]

If I am not mistaken the libretto for that recording is in Russian-Cyrillic (and English). Now unless you can read Cyrillic what use is it

Well, it also contains a transliteration of the Russian text in Latin script, which is quite handy and can be used to familiarize yourself with the Cyrillic.

Q

[PerfectWagnerite]

You could say simply, in Russian.  It is Russian transliterated into Roman letters which is unusual 

Yes, that is what I meant. Usually we get a phonetic translation which sort of gives you a sense what the singers are saying. But if we get it in pure Russian and you are not familiar with the Cyrillic alphabet then you might as well be reading Egyptian.

Well, it also contains a transliteration of the Russian text in Latin script, which is quite handy and can be used to familiarize yourself with the Cyrillic.

Q

True, but that involves one more level of the learning curve. Why can't they do what EMI does and just give you the Latin phonetic spelling. Because of that I haven't listened to this recording.

[karlhenning]

Well, it also contains a transliteration of the Russian text in Latin script, which is quite handy and can be used to familiarize yourself with the Cyrillic.

Depending :-)

Unattaching the smiley, the booklet in the Delos recordings of the Prokofiev songs (e.g.) has the texts in both English, and in romanized Russian, but the vowels and consonants are not true transcriptions of the Cyrillic, but based on the sound. For example:  a voiced consonant, such as b, when at the end of a word becomes 'de-voiced', so that b will be pronounced p . . . so in these liner notes, the transliteration will have p even if it is b, but in a position where it sounds p.

Personally, I find that annoying  

[Harry]

Before I go to the opera, it would be nice to have heard a good performance of Godunov, to prepare my self! Bought Oropax already.
Suggestions?

[Valentino]

A lot of recordings you don't have to bin. send Pollini's Hammerklavier, Guilini's Giovanni and C. Kleiber's LvB 5&7 in my general direction, and music I love are secured as Christmas presents.

Now here's a real stinker:

[Danny]

Kleiber's versions of Beethoven's Fifth and Seventh were also a huge disappointment. 

[71 dB]

Very stylish cover art. I like! 

[karlhenning]

Now here's a real stinker:

Too bad!  I've heard a few of those Red Seal reissues which I've found outstanding.

[BorisG]

A lot of recordings you don't have to bin. send Pollini's Hammerklavier, Guilini's Giovanni and C. Kleiber's LvB 5&7 in my general direction, and music I love are secured as Christmas presents.

Now here's a real stinker:

Knowing the original release ever so briefly, I secondo that stinko.

[Valentino]

I should be precise. It's the original release of the Midsummer Night's Dream thats stinking. I haven't heard the reissue. The enginers must have had a field day, turning knobs, turning knobs. No dynamics, only reverb. I just don't get to the music.

[johnshade]

This recording is from the late 50s. I've had the recording since then, but I've never been able to warm up to this plodding version of Brahms First. It is often a critic's first choice.