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Started by Michel, May 13, 2007, 10:37:03 PM

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Mark

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I spent 10 years moving boxes from place to place in a retail warehouse. And unloading lorries in the rain. That'll teach me to leave school without any decent qualifications. But it was character-building and gave me a very strong work ethic.

Then came working nights. For 10 months. It sucked.

Luckily, I managed to convince an advertising agency to hire me as a junior copywriter. That was over eight years ago. Since then, I've won awards, been made redundant, gone freelance, joined another agency and become Head of Copywriting ... and now, I'm freelance again.

Michel

On your website, it reads:

"I also do a few other things. As a copywriter, I use words that are right for their audience. As a creative, I look for something original in every brief. And with experience of teaching others the basics of good writing, I can show you how to get the most out of words."

You use "their", but you can't use that as it is not assigned to anybody, it is unclear. I would assume you are referring to the client and should any intelligent potential client read your website, I would imagine they would run a mile. You don't do words, you do (and are) crap.

Mark

Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 01:20:32 PM
On your website, it reads:

"I also do a few other things. As a copywriter, I use words that are right for their audience."

Have another look at those two words above in bold and consider their relationship. Copywriting doesn't have to follow the normal rules of grammar. Indeed, it often eschews them.

QuoteYou don't do words, you do (and are) crap.

That's just rude and uncalled for.

Solitary Wanderer

Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 01:05:38 PM
I spent 10 years moving boxes from place to place in a retail warehouse. And unloading lorries in the rain. That'll teach me to leave school without any decent qualifications. But it was character-building and gave me a very strong work ethic.

Then came working nights. For 10 months. It sucked.

Luckily, I managed to convince an advertising agency to hire me as a junior copywriter. That was over eight years ago. Since then, I've won awards, been made redundant, gone freelance, joined another agency and become Head of Copywriting ... and now, I'm freelance again.

This will tell you everything you need to know about what I do: www.idowords.com




(And yes, I'll happily consider any serious offers of work by PM. ;D)

Hi Mark.

Nice to see you back  :)
'I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.' ~ Emily Bronte

Mark

Howdy, fella! Nice to be back. :)

SonicMan46

Quote from: Manuel on May 16, 2007, 04:33:46 AM
After a few pages of professions, we can certainly agree GMG is a conjunction of big shots. Not a single janitor or shop clerk.  ;D

Manuel - LOL  ;D - I use to be a golf caddy, 'used' golf ball salesman, & a golf course 'handyman' - of course that was a while ago (like the early 1960s) -  ;)  :D

Harry

Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 01:25:15 PM
Have another look at those two words above in bold and consider their relationship. Copywriting doesn't have to follow the normal rules of grammar. Indeed, it often eschews them.

That's just rude and uncalled for.

Michel is a rude fellow, he can't help it, he is a trained provocateur, educated by the Marx Brothers. ;D

Robert

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Quote from: Harry on May 16, 2007, 02:36:41 PM
Michel is a rude fellow, he can't help it, he is a trained provocateur, educated by the Marx Brothers. ;D
Harry,
Your being quite kind ole chap. Thats not how I see it..believe me I wouldn't be that kind....but I don't want uffe on my case.....

uffeviking

Quote from: Robert on May 16, 2007, 04:44:18 PM
Harry,
but I don't want uffe on my case.....

Have I ever been on your case, Dear Robert? Of course not, because you are a gentle man. Michel is still learning to become one! I hope he is a fast learner!  $:)

Robert

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Quote from: uffeviking on May 16, 2007, 04:50:47 PM
Have I ever been on your case, Dear Robert? Of course not, because you are a gentle man. Michel is still learning to become one! I hope he is a fast learner!  $:)
Dear Uffe,
Thank you for your kind words....I always try to be considerate. I also try and be patient. My memory happens to be quite good...I only hope you are right....I will give him the benefit of the doubt......Its just quite disturbing to see him insulting some of our members here....

Steve

Profession: Student  ;D


Florestan

Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 01:20:32 PM
On your website, it reads:

"I also do a few other things. As a copywriter, I use words that are right for their audience. As a creative, I look for something original in every brief. And with experience of teaching others the basics of good writing, I can show you how to get the most out of words."

You use "their", but you can't use that as it is not assigned to anybody, it is unclear. I would assume you are referring to the client and should any intelligent potential client read your website, I would imagine they would run a mile. You don't do words, you do (and are) crap.

The only thing unclear is how far you will go with your inanities and insults.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Que

Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 01:20:32 PM
You use "their", but you can't use that as it is not assigned to anybody, it is unclear. I would assume you are referring to the client and should any intelligent potential client read your website, I would imagine they would run a mile. You don't do words, you do (and are) crap.

I like people to speak their mind, but this is totally out of line.
We don't need this kind of behaviour.

Q


P.S. Mark, a warm welcome back and I hope that will not put you off! :)

Michel

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He just shoves his "work" in your face - going about on the old forum calling himself a "writer", implying he was doing something interesting and fictional, rather than just writing copy for adverts, etc. In my line of work I have met bucketloads of crap copywriters who think they are clever and better than they are. I don't know why it attracts that sort of person.

I am only rude, if I am, as a legitimate reaction against the pretense.



Joe_Campbell

Yea this is no place to advertise one's profession.



Oh wait... ::)

Nice to see you back Mark! :)

Harry

Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 10:54:39 PM
He just shoves his "work" in your face - going about on the old forum calling himself a "writer", implying he was doing something interesting and fictional, rather than just writing copy for adverts, etc. In my line of work I have met bucketloads of crap copywriters who think they are clever and better than they are. I don't know why it attracts that sort of person.

I am only rude, if I am, as a legitimate reaction against the pretense.




Confirmed, he will not learn, I am afraid. He is born rude. Thinks he is sort of a judge, sitting high and mighty, and knows all.
Yikes! :P

Mark

Que, JC (and of course, Young Harry), it's a pleasure to be back. :)

XB-70 Valkyrie

Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 02:00:53 PM
Howdy, fella! Nice to be back. :)

Look what the cat dragged in--a great big badass Mexikin!

Welcome back homeboy!  ;D

If you really dislike Bach you keep quiet about it! - Andras Schiff

Mark

Hi XB. Hope all's well with you. :)

Michel

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And I am not sure this is the place to solicit business, either.

But that said, I apologise for any offence caused; I just had to vent my frustration after a stressful day at work.

Welcome, Mark.