Name Your Favored Composer

[sound67]

I don't know who Alex North is...

Which means you're in no way qualified to make any comment about his music in "comparison" (observe quotation marks) to Richard Strauss's.

Of course, I know of North and Brant, but I had no idea that they had worked together in any way.  Didn't North write the rejected score for 2001: A Space Odyssey? I'm pretty sure that was his.  Kubrick probably should have recruited Brant for that project...you know, the space thing and all.

The matter has been discussed to death in the film music thread. But the thing about Brant writing the score for 2001 actually is an intriguing one. ANYTHING would have been better than the solution Kubrick eventually came up with.

According to IMDB, Brant scored only a single film, My Father's House (1947), about an illegal immigrant into Palestine looking for his father.

Thomas

[ezodisy]

Which means you're in no way qualified to make any comment about his music in "comparison" (observe quotation marks) to Richard Strauss's.

lol! And you are?

So be it. However the comment about the films is gospel truth.

[Sergeant Rock]

This is also why 2001 keeps getting mentioned, as it was the sole chance of one of these minor composers to actually make it into a quality film.

Nonsense. Besides 2001 North also composed the scores to The Misfits, The Rainmaker, Spartacus, Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf, Under the Volcano, Death of a Salesman (1951) and A Streetcar Named Desire.

Sarge

[sound67]

"ezosidy" certainly didn't mean that literally. He was just being a prick. 

[ezodisy]

Nonsense. Besides 2001 North also composed the scores to The Misfits, The Rainmaker, Spartacus, Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf, Under the Volcano, Death of a Salesman (1951) and A Streetcar Named Desire.

Sarge

Fair enough. A little exaggeration on my part, but only a little. It was not an exaggeration in the same sense of the crap which sound67 is saying so earnestly. sound67, if you ever want any of these composers to be taken seriously, try to avoid belittling people like Bernstein, Kubrick and Strauss, as the only message it's sending out is that you are extremely bitter about their fame and success.

[Dancing Divertimentian]

"ezosidy" certainly didn't mean that literally. He was just being a prick. 

A precedent which you have set.

[sound67]

try to avoid belittling people like Bernstein, Kubrick and Strauss

Perform as much butt-kissing as you like, the simple fact that yourself don't know squad about any of these matters won't go away. 

Thomas

[Bogey]

Goldsmith.  Easily, I might add.  Just love his music with or without the film images.

[sound67]

Like i said it's pastiche...mere background music that's never concerned with types of developments or lengths etc. or anything

For someone who accuses others of "pastiche" you're doing a lot of cutting & pasting yourself. If you have so little to say consider shutting up instead of repeating the same crap over and over and over, even phrased the same way. You know that autism is treatable nowadays, don't you.

I don't know

No kidding.

Thomas

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Nonsense. Besides 2001 North also composed the scores to The Misfits, The Rainmaker, Spartacus, Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf, Under the Volcano, Death of a Salesman (1951) and A Streetcar Named Desire.

Sarge

Interesting. So Kubrick had experience using North's music (Spartacus).

So why our esteemed sound67 should claim Kubrick erred in going with the classical soundtrack to 2001 is even more a mystery.

Kubrick had tasted North's music but felt conceptually it wouldn't work for 2001.

Innocent enough.

[sound67]

So why our esteemed sound67 should claim Kubrick erred in going with the classical soundtrack to 2001 is even more a mystery.

Not really. Kirk Douglas was the producer on Spartacus, he hired Alex North.

Thomas

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Not really. Kirk Douglas was the producer on Spartacus, he hired Alex North.

Thomas

That of course changes nothing. Kubrick still had first-hand knowledge of North's skills.

[sound67]

Actually, James, Kubrick's blunder on 2001 was not even a very imaginative one.

It was just another case of a director falling in love with the temp-track. Rookie mistake on Kubrick's part. 

Thomas

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Actually, James, Kubrick's blunder on 2001 was not even a very imaginative one.

It was just another case of a director falling in love with the temp-track. Rookie mistake on Kubrick's part. 

"Rookie" hardly applies to Kubrick by the time of 2001. He'd even been in league with North by that time.

[sound67]

Man, the weekend's almost over, and STILL no sense of humour on your part. 

[Dancing Divertimentian]

Man, the weekend's almost over, and STILL no sense of humour on your part. 

When I see something funny I'll let you know.

[drogulus]

Actually, James, Kubrick's blunder on 2001 was not even a very imaginative one.

It was just another case of a director falling in love with the temp-track. Rookie mistake on Kubrick's part. 

Thomas

     I didn't hear Sinfonia Antartica in the film anywhere. Rookie mistake doesn't sound right, either. Whatever you think of the habit of using non-original music in films, some directors seem to choose well. Among these I'd list Martin Scorsese (pop music and classical), Ken Russell (OK, a special case, a musical obsessive) and Stanley Kubrick.

[sound67]

I think he also used LESS music than he originally anticipated.

Among these I'd list Martin Scorsese (pop music and classical)

Who was thrilled to get Benny Herrmann for Taxi Driver, and would have continued to use him hadn't Herrmann died on him the night the recording sessions for the De Niro classic had wrapped up. He also employed Elmer Bernstein repeatedly.

Scorsese is a special case in that he is one of the few directors out there with an extensive knowledge of film, and film music, history. Still, I would question his choice in the case of Gangs of New York. That film would have benefited from the original score Elmer Bernstein had been commissioned to write.

Ken Russell (OK, a special case, a musical obsessive)

Whose hellish The Devils was none the less blessed with a powerful original score by Peter Maxwell Davies.

Thomas

[ezodisy]

Perform as much butt-kissing as you like, the simple fact that yourself don't know squad about any of these matters won't go away. 

Thomas

At long last we now have a replacement for the saddest individual on the board -- the poor chap who sits at home deriding geniuses and incapable of debating what he asserts. It is really no wonder why people are laughing.

[sound67]

I now know why James has his eyes perpetually covered with sun glasses. There are really no human eyes behind them, James is just an Internet bot  - one that is malfunctioning and thus continually recycling the same phrases.

When I see something funny I'll let you know.

Not having a sense of humor yourself you'd have a hard time reckognizing it in others. 

Sorry boys, I got to spend the rest of the evening watching movies so I can pass judgement on them. 

Thomas