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Drasko

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Cato

Quote from: Sandra on May 23, 2011, 12:31:33 AM
Stravinsky, conducting his own works. Don't have the album cover but I bought this two-volume set 5 years ago. It's titled Historical Recordings. The sound quality is pretty good for an older recording. Most of Stravinsky's chamber works are there.

Stravinsky did not like "interpretation" by conductors: I suppose somebody (a Ph.D. candidate) has listened to all of Stravinsky's recordings and compared them to the scores to see if the composer followed his own score to the letter.

I (vaguely) recall reading a review or two from the 1960's where the writer not so delicately points out the areas where Stravinsky was interpreting his own score.

But I thought: "So what?  It's his work!"   $:)
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

karlhenning

Langgaard
Tonebilleder BVN 133 (1917)
Gitta-Maria Sjöberg
Danish National Radio Symphony
Rozhdestvensky


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DavidW

Mozart Sonatas for Violin and Keyboard KV 306, 378, 481-- Kuijken/Devos.  Fantastic way to start the day! :)

karlhenning

Quote from: Cato on May 23, 2011, 04:00:45 AM
Stravinsky did not like "interpretation" by conductors: I suppose somebody (a Ph.D. candidate) has listened to all of Stravinsky's recordings and compared them to the scores to see if the composer followed his own score to the letter.

To my mind the most "notorious" instance (and I've probably mentioned this before) was the closing Alleluia of the Symphony of Psalms.  When Stravinsky "revised" the score in America (and as with so many of his revisions, part of the motivation was probably to have the work protected by US copyright), he specified a slower tempo for the closing Alleluia . . . a stroke of genius, truly, for it takes what was already an exquisite passage, and emphasizes yet better its strong ties to the 'timelessness' of the Russian Orthodox liturgical choral tradition.

Where the "notoriety" comes in, is . . . that he afterwards made a high profile visit to Toronto, they performed the Symphony of Psalms with the composer conducting, they filmed the event (and offhand I believe it is this performance which is documented in the Stravinsky's Own box) and . . . whether it was conducting habit or otherwise inattention, or lack of rehearsal time, or whatever . . . he did not conduct his own revised, slower tempo in the close of the last movement on that occasion.  And of course, because it is THE recording the composer himself made, in the minds of many this is the DEFINITIVE performance.

Now, I don't have any serious quarrel with Igor Fyodorovich over the event . . . he didn't have anything to prove any more, really . . . I take it as one data point in my prickly skepticism that there can be any such thing as a DEFINITIVE performance, even in a case where the composer is at the podium.

J.Z. Herrenberg

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 23, 2011, 04:11:28 AM
Langgaard
Tonebilleder BVN 133 (1917)
Gitta-Maria Sjöberg
Danish National Radio Symphony
Rozhdestvensky



Beautiful, aren't they?
Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything. -- Plato

karlhenning

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Quote from: J. Z. Herrenberg on May 23, 2011, 04:29:19 AM
Beautiful, aren't they?

Lovely!  They make an interesting (and characteristic) contrast with the Main Piece on the disc, as they are by comparison completely "relaxed" and traditional in idiom;  very artfully done.

And now, for the first Langgaard I ever heard!

My man Rued
Sfærernes Musik (Music of the Spheres) BVN 128 (1916-18)
Danish National Radio Symphony Orchestra & Choir
Rozhdestvensky


Fascinating to revisit the liner notes on this:  one of the few works to be published in the composer's lifetime!


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Luke

Quote from: Sid on May 23, 2011, 02:47:51 AM. Even before Glass, Walton was influenced by Brahms' concertos when writing his own, particularly in his orchestration.

Agree with the general idea of this post but - did Walton say that? I'd be stunned. Walton's orchestration has so little in common with that of Brahms, and that is particularly true of the the sultry Mediterranean sonorities of his Violin Concerto I'd think.

Luke

Karl, the score to Langgaard's Music of the Sphere's is on IMSLP, too, amazingly enough. Hunt it down!!

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on May 23, 2011, 03:47:13 AM
It'll be worth it - it's really rather blown me away. Aside from the DShostakovich Preludes & Fugues, I am struggling to think of a large scale 20th century piano work as good as this. Once I have gotten around to the piano concertos, I'll make a thread for the composer :)

;D  ;D  ;D So glad you think so! Will happily take part in any Stevenson thread.

karlhenning

Quote from: Luke on May 23, 2011, 04:57:06 AM
Karl, the score to Langgaard's Music of the Sphere's is on IMSLP, too, amazingly enough. Hunt it down!!

Sacrée vache, so it is, thanks!

karlhenning

Comparative spherifying:

Langgaard
Sfærernes Musik (Music of the Spheres) BVN 128 (1916-18)
Edith Guillaume, soprano
Danish National Radio Symphony Orchestra & Choir
Frandsen

SonicMan46

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 22, 2011, 06:15:03 PM
Now:



Excellent recording. Dumbarton Oaks is exquisitely played.

MI - certainly agree, I have that same disc.  For those who may be interested and are not aware of the history of this work,  Dumbarton Oaks was composed in the late 1930s, and was commissioned by Robert Woods Bliss from Washington, D.C. for his 30th wedding anniversary (story HERE).

The Bliss Estate (house & gardens), i.e. Dumbarton Oaks, is now a museum w/ gardens - beautiful place to visit in the heart of Georgetown - information HERE - on my next trip to D.C., we may do a return visit ourselves!  :)

karlhenning

(* clears throat *)

Игорь Фëдорович [ Igor Fyodorovich (Stravinsky) ]
ΑΓΩΝ
"Los Angeles Festival Symphony Orchestra"
The composer conducting

Recorded in Hollywood, 18 June 1957

not edward

Busoni: Sarabande und Cortege (SWR/Gielen). Easily the best modern performance of this I know; only the 1941 live Mitropolous is worth comparing with it. Now if only someone could be persuaded to let Gielen record Doktor Faust.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

Sergeant Rock

Listening to Ernst von Dohnányi's Symphony #1 D minor




Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

karlhenning

Encore une fois

Игорь Фëдорович [ Igor Fyodorovich (Stravinsky) ]
ΑΓΩΝ
"Los Angeles Festival Symphony Orchestra"
The composer conducting

Recorded in Hollywood, 18 June 1957

karlhenning

(That would be recorded the day after the concert première of the work, BTW.)

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Lethe Dmitriyevich Shostakovich on May 23, 2011, 03:30:09 AM
I like that disc - the music doesn't sound heavy like in many performances, such as the Amadeus Quartet (and friends). I recall Santa Fe Listener left a 3 star review on it last time I checked (calling it Divertimento Brahms or suchlike), but it seems to have gone.
I like the idea of Divertimento Brahms. If someone wrote that, I'd snap it up!  :o
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Sergeant Rock

Brahms 4, Eschenbach conducting the Schleswig-Holstein Festival Orchestra




Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"