Finally as I....saw it.. The 150 cd box from Haydn's music

[Harry]

Promised you all the 150 cd box from Haydn assembled by Brilliant arrived 100,- euro's it will cost you, and as I am told many more recordings of Haydn will come along. This set includes the Baryton trios. But remember this is just a beginning.
Enjoy and please try not to be disappointed.

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/3464945?rk=classic&rsk=novelties

[Guido]

Promised you all the 150 cd box from Haydn assembled by Brilliant arrived 100,- euro's it will cost you, and as I am told many more recordings of Haydn will come along. This set includes the Baryton trios. But remember this is just a beginning.
Enjoy and please try not to be disappointed.

http://www.jpc.de/jpcng/classic/detail/-/hnum/3464945?rk=classic&rsk=novelties

You make it sound like you were responsible for it... Are you?

[Lethevich]

Nice. I was surprised at the number of discs, but if the rest is coming in future that will be interesting. Does that mean that they are aiming for a complete set (like the Mozart) in future and are treating this as an interim filler?

It's still very good value as it is, I'll probably snap it up.

[Harry]

Nice. I was surprised at the number of discs, but if the rest is coming in future that will be interesting. Does that mean that they are aiming for a complete set (like the Mozart) in future and are treating this as an interim filler?

It's still very good value as it is, I'll probably snap it up.

Yes Sarah, this is the beginning of a complete release of all of Haydn's work.

[Lethevich]

Yes Sarah, this is the beginning of a complete release of all of Haydn's work.

They couldn't have picked a better composer to do this with. A lot of his output remains very obscure

[Que]

Thanks again, Harry!
As far as I'm concerned the baryton trios are the BIG prize here.
I just checked: the Esterhazy Ensemble is HIP and includes a real baryton. So: yummy yummmy! As soon as that is available separately I'll be all over it!

Q

[Harry]

Thanks again, Harry!
As far as I'm concerned the baryton trios are the BIG prize here.
I just checked: the Esterhazy Ensemble is HIP and includes a real baryton. So: yummy yummmy! As soon as that is available separately I'll be all over it!

Q

Yes I am waiting for that too, since I have most of the stuff already, I will ask, if they will release that soon seperately!

[Harry]

They couldn't have picked a better composer to do this with. A lot of his output remains very obscure

Very obscure indeed!

[OzRadio]

Am I correct in understanding this big box is only a partial collection of Haydn's work at this point?

[Gurn Blanston]

Am I correct in understanding this big box is only a partial collection of Haydn's work at this point?

I believe it is designated "Volume 1", which it can only be, since there are several genres still untouched to which he made a large contribution. When the project was originally announced I made a rough estimate of 275 to 300 disks, so a Volume 2 of this same size would seem probable.   



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Listening to:

Royal Concertgebouw/Haitink - Beethoven Symphony #9 in d Op 125 4th mvmt

[Mark G. Simon]

So much great music, but how can one possibly listen to it all?

[springrite]

So much great music, but how can one possibly listen to it all?

Leave it to Harry!




Oh, it will be much more than the 150 CDs if they are actually going to do a complete set. Haydn also composed much vocal and operatic music, of which only a couple of oratorios are played nowadays. 300 to 350 would be my ballpark guess.

[Gurn Blanston]

So much great music, but how can one possibly listen to it all?

I'll let you know how it goes, Mark.  

Seriously, I may not finally be able to hum the main theme from each work (can't do it now with the symphonies, which I have traversed 3 or 4 times), but I honestly think that pre-Romantic music requires a different mindset to listen to and enjoy, not relying so much on differentiation and contrast between works within a genre as later music does.

I personally divide my Haydn collection by year of composition, so to listen to a couple of operas, a mass, 6 quartets, 3 trios for keyboard, 3 for strings, and 8 symphonies and some divertimenti makes for a nice mixture and much easier listening (highly satisfactory too).



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Listening to:
Heutling String Quartet - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - String Quartet No. 19 in C, K.465 "Dissonance" 1st mvmt - Adagio

[Bogey]

So, will they eventually combine the volumes, or should one pick these up as they come up?

[Gurn Blanston]

So, will they eventually combine the volumes, or should one pick these up as they come up?

The latter, I should imagine, Bill. 2 bricks of 150 should be quite a handful for any given time.



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Listening to:
Heutling String Quartet - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - String Quartet No. 17 in B flat, K.4585 "Hunt" Menuetto moderato

[Mark G. Simon]

I honestly think that pre-Romantic music requires a different mindset to listen to and enjoy, not relying so much on differentiation and contrast between works within a genre as later music does.

I think the symphonies and string quartets and piano sonatas are very well differentiated. That's what's so amazing about Haydn. With all that output, there's still a so much  individuality in each work. He didn't just go through the motions, at least not in the genres he was most interested in. Each of the mature symphonies and string quartets (and a good percentage of the early ones) has something distinctive about it that makes it stand out on its own. The divertimenti and baryton trios are more like what you say, more music of a type than individuals. I've been going through the Dorati symphonies lately (all on LP) and digitizing them.

[Gurn Blanston]

I think the symphonies and string quartets and piano sonatas are very well differentiated. That's what's so amazing about Haydn. With all that output, there's still a so much  individuality in each work. He didn't just go through the motions, at least not in the genres he was most interested in. Each of the mature symphonies and string quartets (and a good percentage of the early ones) has something distinctive about it that makes it stand out on its own. The divertimenti and baryton trios are more like what you say, more music of a type than individuals. I've been going through the Dorati symphonies lately (all on LP) and digitizing them.

I agree on those genres, although in the bigger scheme, they are really only a small part of his output!     Many of the late piano trios fall into that category too.

For me though, it is just a case of how much music I can carry in my head, so with the symphonies, for example, I can readily identify most as to era, and perhaps a dozen or so by name instantly, but that is a feat! I do better with the SQ's, but then, I'm a chamber music enthusiast rather than orchestral, so I guess that helps.

I would like to say that everyone should do what he/she is capable of, I wouldn't want to foist my own limitations on someone else.

Digitizing Dorati! Sounds like there could be a book there!   I have 8 or 9 Dorati CD's, but my complete cycle is the Fischer, which I got on Nimbus in the pre-Brilliant days. I think it is a masterpiece.



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Listening to:
Heutling String Quartet - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - String Quartet No. 17 in B flat, K.4585 "Hunt" Allegro assai

[Harry]

So, will they eventually combine the volumes, or should one pick these up as they come up?

They will not combine, as far as I know Bill

[OzRadio]

Is this available in the States? I don't see it on Amazon. *Edit* Oops, there it is. 200$ with a November 11 release date. It'll have to wait until after the Beethoven and Brahms sets.
Ryan

[tjguitar]

I can't even imagine being able to find the time to give a set like this a fair listen.