Poll
Question:
Your choice for the deserted island?
Option 1: BWV
Option 2: RVW
Prompted by a post by Ray [ChamberNut as of this posting], here's another one for you.
Complete works of Bach v Complete works of Ralph Vaughan Williams*
*Standard Desert Island rules apply
Although I'm much more into Romantic music, for this one.....I'd have to think it's almost a no-brainer.
BWV for me! ;D as long I could have a lot of modern instrument recordings. 0:)
This isn't even close to fair.
What next? Filet mignon v Big Mac? (Seemingly unfair to Ralph, I know, but a one-to-one correspondence is not intended.)
Christo, where are you? ;D
RVW might have suggested voting for Bach, given his love of the St Matthew Passion.
This is like asking me if I'd rather be kissed by a beautiful woman or hit over the head with a rotting fish.
It is?
Quote from: Mn Dave on March 19, 2009, 09:39:43 AM
This is like asking me if I'd rather be kissed by a beautiful woman or hit over the head with a rotting fish.
Well? :D
Hey, Ralphie does have the most actively posted "composer discussion" thread going for him. Vaughan Williams' Veranda. :)
Quote from: ChamberNut on March 19, 2009, 09:43:27 AM
Hey, Ralphie does have the most actively posted "composer discussion" thread going for him. Vaughan Williams' Veranda. :)
It's all UK folk, innit? ;D
Quote from: ChamberNut on March 19, 2009, 09:21:03 AM
[BWV] a lot of modern instrument recordings. 0:)
Hey, that's as good
(or bad) as RVW, for me. >:D
Quote from: Todd on March 19, 2009, 09:21:37 AM
This isn't even close to fair.
Apparently, that seems to be my trait in polls like this one.
Quote from: ChamberNut on March 19, 2009, 09:43:27 AM
Hey, Ralphie does have the most actively posted "composer discussion" thread going for him. Vaughan Williams' Veranda. :)
That's because the Bachaholics are busy listening to music which speaks for itself and the geni... er, brainiaciness of its composer. 0:)
I think that's enough RVW bashing for today.
Currently listening to: Brandenburg Concerto No. 6 - Linde and his Consort
Man does not live by Bach alone.
When I'm in the mood for RVW, no amount of Bach is going to fill the bill.
On the other hand when you have day after day in which there's nothing to do but stare out at the sea, the last thing you want is a chorus shouting out "Behold, the SEA!"
Quote from: Mark G. Simon on March 19, 2009, 12:18:28 PM
Man does not live by Bach alone.
When I'm in the mood for RVW, no amount of Bach is going to fill the bill.
On the other hand when you have day after day in which there's nothing to do but stare out at the sea, the last thing you want is a chorus shouting out "Behold, the SEA!"
But COMPLETE WORKS vs. COMPLETE WORKS? On a desert island??? No competition.
Quote from: Mn Dave on March 19, 2009, 09:39:43 AM
This is like asking me if I'd rather be kissed by a beautiful woman or hit over the head with a rotting fish.
;D
So I assume RVW is the beautiful woman and... >:D
Quote from: Mark G. Simon on March 19, 2009, 12:18:28 PM
On the other hand when you have day after day in which there's nothing to do but stare out at the sea, the last thing you want is a chorus shouting out "Behold, the SEA!"
Ah, now the potential deserted island inhabitants are actually pondering what life on that horrible island might be like. Point very well taken. (Bach doesn't have any oceanic choruses, does he?)
--Bruce
More likely to be able to build some kind of rudimentary raft/signalling device/fire out of the complete Bach+packaging than the RVW.
I voted Bach, but only because I'm not yet acquainted with RvW (I haven't been to Boston to see Karl yet). So maybe my vote should be retracted. I'm regretting it now.
Far be it for me to spoil anyone's fun......but can I just point out that it would currently be impossible to have the complete works of RVW on a Desert Island(I am presuming that Navneeth meant to listen to as opposed as the scores :)).
Until someone takes the trouble to record the Cantata "Folk Songs of the Four Seasons" that is ;D
Quote from: sul G on March 19, 2009, 02:56:24 PM
More likely to be able to build some kind of rudimentary raft/signalling device/fire out of the complete Bach+packaging than the RVW.
Heh. :)
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 19, 2009, 05:06:00 PM
Far be it for me to spoil anyone's fun......but can I just point out that it would currently be impossible to have the complete works of RVW on a Desert Island(I am presuming that Navneeth meant to listen to as opposed as the scores :)).
Until someone takes the trouble to record the Cantata "Folk Songs of the Four Seasons" that is ;D
Whichever floats your boat, Colin! ;) Even score-wise I think I would find Bach intellectually more stimulating, now that I'd have all the time in the world to discover stuff like this (http://www.ams.org/featurecolumn/archive/canons.html) and more! :)
Quote from: opus67 on March 20, 2009, 05:22:16 AM
Whichever floats your boat, Colin! ;) Even score-wise I think I would find Bach intellectually more stimulating, now that I'd have all the time in the world to discover stuff like this (http://www.ams.org/featurecolumn/archive/canons.html) and more! :)
Nav, do you associate certain composers with certain work occupations (besides music composers ;D).
Quote from: ChamberNut on March 20, 2009, 05:27:08 AM
Nav, do you associate certain composers with certain work occupations (besides music composers ;D).
Huh? No, I don't. :)
A question for Brits: Why is RVW's first name pronounced "Rafe"?
Quote from: matti on March 20, 2009, 05:49:20 AM
A question for Brits: Why is RVW's first name pronounced "Rafe"?
It is entirely a matter of individual choice whether to pronounce the name as "ralph" with the stress on the 'l' or "rafe" with the 'l' silent.
So the great British actor Sir Ralph Richardson, the contemporary actor Ralph Fiennes and Ralph Vaughan Williams all pronounced their first name as 'Rafe'.
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 20, 2009, 06:06:16 AM
It is entirely a matter of individual choice whether to pronounce the name as "ralph" with the stress on the 'l' or "rafe" with the 'l' silent.
So the great British actor Sir Ralph Richardson, the contemporary actor Ralph Fiennes and Ralph Vaughan Williams all pronounced their first name as 'Rafe'.
My name is pronounced "Minn Dah-Vee". :P
Is it a Welsh thing, particularly?
And a possible parrelel occurs to me this morning . . . the pronunciation of "half-penny" as hay-penny.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 20, 2009, 06:10:15 AM
Is it a Welsh thing, particularly?
And a possible parrelel occurs to me this morning . . . the pronunciation of "half-penny" as hay-penny.
Those UK folks talk funny in general.
;)
Quote from: Mn Dave on March 20, 2009, 06:11:34 AM
Those UK folks talk funny in general.
;)
They do, wicked funny 8)
As to the question which I did not answer: BWV, obviously, not a fair battle. Even given a chance to choose between a brand new BMW and the good old RVW, I'd pick... :-[
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 20, 2009, 06:15:30 AM
They do, wicked funny 8)
I think that you mean "wickedly funnily" rather than "wicked funny" since-obviously- "funny" is an adjective" :)
Quote from: matti on March 20, 2009, 06:23:07 AM
As to the question which I did not answer: BWV, obviously, not a fair battle.
Just a fun battle. :)
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 20, 2009, 06:24:30 AM
I think that you mean "wickedly funnily" rather than "wicked funny" since-obviously- "funny" is an adjective" :)
;D
Wicked is a special colloquial adverb in Boston.
I wasn't going to vote, but Vaughan Williams is getting so beat up in the comments.
"beat up" rather than "beaten up" ???
We may talk in a manner which you ex-colonials find quaintly amusing but at least most of us attempt to use the correct grammatical constructions ;D
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 20, 2009, 06:38:11 AM
"beat up" rather than "beaten up" ???
We may talk in a manner which you ex-colonials find quaintly amusing but at least most of us attempt to use the correct grammatical constructions ;D
Unlikely.
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 20, 2009, 06:38:11 AM
"beat up" rather than "beaten up" ???
We may talk in a manner which you ex-colonials find quaintly amusing but at least most of us attempt to use the correct grammatical constructions ;D
;)
FWIW, here in the former colonies, both
beat and
beaten are given in the dictionary for the 3rd form of the verb . . . agreed, though, that it has a
coll. overtone.
Topic for next poll
[Desert Island] Dude who talks American English v Fellow who talks British English
Oh, my use of dude is always borderline facetious.
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 20, 2009, 06:33:44 AM
;D
Wicked is a special colloquial adverb in Boston.
Not just Boston! I've lived all over New England (mostly Maine) most of my life, and I'm
wicked bad when it comes to sayin' that!
Quote from: opus67 on March 20, 2009, 06:42:32 AM
Topic for next poll
[Desert Island] Dude who talks American English v Fellow who talks British English
To each his/her own. I'd pick females, in general they have better oral skills. :)
I could always start calling my GMG friends 'mates' but you might get the wrong idea ;D
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 20, 2009, 07:43:00 AM
I could always start calling my GMG friends 'mates' but you might get the wrong idea ;D
I shouldn't, mate!
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 19, 2009, 05:06:00 PM
Far be it for me to spoil anyone's fun......but can I just point out that it would currently be impossible to have the complete works of RVW on a Desert Island(I am presuming that Navneeth meant to listen to as opposed as the scores :)).
Until someone takes the trouble to record the Cantata "Folk Songs of the Four Seasons" that is ;D
I get the impression that some of you would willingly go to that desert island if as part of the deal the complete works of Ralph Vaughan Williams were to be recorded. On the other hand, those of us who remain might be inclined to send you there. ;D
Quote from: nut-job on March 20, 2009, 07:56:13 AM
I get the impression that some of you would willingly go to that desert island if as part of the deal the complete works of Ralph Vaughan Williams were to be recorded. On the other hand, those of us who remain might be inclined to send you there. ;D
;D ;D
I MIGHT consider it.....IF you could throw in the complete works of Havergal Brian as well ;D
Some music belongs on a desert island.
True that I'm not a Brian fan -- however, the statement was not specifically directed at his music, though I certainly see how the juxtaposition might imply that.
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 20, 2009, 08:29:34 AM
Humph!!
I appeciated the remark on a purely abstract plane,
Colin! 'tis wicked!
Oh well....that's a'right then, mate ;D
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 20, 2009, 08:48:07 AM
I appeciated the remark on a purely abstract plane, Colin! 'tis wicked!
Thank you, Karl. I do miss Nigel around here. No doubt you do, too.
Quote from: Dundonnell on March 19, 2009, 05:06:00 PM
Far be it for me to spoil anyone's fun......but can I just point out that it would currently be impossible to have the complete works of RVW on a Desert Island(I am presuming that Navneeth meant to listen to as opposed as the scores :)).
Until someone takes the trouble to record the Cantata "Folk Songs of the Four Seasons" that is ;D
Colin, someone now has. :)
(http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/t_200/albionrecordsalbcd010.jpg) (http://www.prestoclassical.co.uk/r/Albion%2BRecords/ALBCD010)
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QuoteChoir of Clare College, Cambridge & Dmitri Ensemble, Cambridge, Sir David Willcocks
Both the Folk Songs of the Four Seasons and this arrangement of In Windsor Forest are world premiere recordings. The Folk Songs of the Four Seasons is a substantial work by Vaughan Williams, over 40 minutes long, for women's chorus and orchestra. It is the most significant of his works never to have been recorded in any format.
The Folk Songs of the Four Seasons was commissioned by the Women's Institute and first performed in 1950. The work has a Prologue and four sections: Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter.
The coupling is the rare arrangement for women's voices, by Guthrie Foote and Vaughan Williams, of the Cantata In Windsor Forest based on choruses from the opera Sir John in Love.
This new Albion recording is issued to mark the 90th birthday of Sir David Willcocks on 30 December, 2009. Sir David is world famous for his recordings for EMI and for his work at King's College, Cambridge and the Bach Choir. For Sir David to record another major Vaughan Williams disc at the age of almost 90 is remarkable in itself and will ensure national and international interest in this recording.
Instead of BWV vs RVW, we should have BWV vs RV: Bach vs Vivaldi, who would win that one? :)
Quote from: DavidW on July 27, 2009, 06:38:09 AM
Instead of BWV vs RVW, we should have BWV vs RV: Bach vs Vivaldi, who would win that one? :)
Bach wins all.
Quote from: DavidW on July 27, 2009, 06:38:09 AM
Instead of BWV vs RVW, we should have BWV vs RV: Bach vs Vivaldi, who would win that one? :)
The only vote Vivaldi would get would be Bach's. ;D
Quote from: DavidRoss on July 27, 2009, 06:40:47 AM
The only vote Vivaldi would get would be Bach's. ;D
:D
Quote from: MN Dave on March 19, 2009, 09:46:55 AM
It's all UK folk, innit? ;D
No it aint! The thread was started by an American and there are several Dutch contributors at least - so there 8)
Despite a tendency to deep despair when I look at the changes in our world during the past half century of my life, there are some which gladden my heart--none more, perhaps, than the wonder we all take so much for granted already: Instantaneous communication in a de facto global lingua franca between an Indian in Madras and an Englishman in West Sussex about their shared passion for great music. If there is hope for our wayward species, perhaps it will be manifested in the ability of the WWWeb to bring us all together with shared understanding of what we all have in common...?
Cheers, bros!
Quote from: opus106 on July 28, 2009, 06:29:23 AM
Really?
;)
:D :D :D When did you move to the USA? ;D