in my college history class, this girl was a complete dumbass. her some memorable quotes are:
"wasnt newton the guy with the apple?"
in 16?? there was a detailed textbook published in France featuring a magnified pic of a flea
"excuse me was it like a picture or a drawing?"
"oh, i thought that alchemy was true, cuz, isn't it true that if you dig any metal into the ground, it becomes gold after a long time?"
during the french revolution, a lot of scientists were executed
"excuse me, didn't they realize 'oh sh*t, we might actually need these guys now!'"
overall, i felt like i was in special ed, bc everybody was pretty much retarded. I did no work, wrote essays the night before, and got As, and everybody struggled barely making c+.
Quote from: marazm1 on September 18, 2007, 07:13:45 AM
in my college history class, this girl was a complete dumbass. her some memorable quotes are:
"wasnt newton the guy with the apple?"
in 16?? there was a detailed textbook published in France featuring a magnified pic of a flea
"excuse me was it like a picture or a drawing?"
"oh, i thought that alchemy was true, cuz, isn't it true that if you dig any metal into the ground, it becomes gold after a long time?"
during the french revolution, a lot of scientists were executed
"excuse me, didn't they realize 'oh sh*t, we might actually need these guys now!'"
overall, i felt like i was in special ed, bc everybody was pretty much retarded. I did no work, wrote essays the night before, and got As, and everybody struggled barely making c+.
This was Stony Brook, huh? :D
Having taught English for many years, I accumulated a pretty long list that I may still have preserved somewhere. Things like, "It's a doggy dog world" and other misstated clichés. My all-time "memorable" one, however, was a freshman boy's comment on a passage by Adolf Hitler I asked the class to analyze:
"Adolf Hitler was neither a Jew, a Chinese, or a Puerto Rican. He was a human being, just like everybody else."
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on September 18, 2007, 07:35:25 AM
"Adolf Hitler was neither a Jew, a Chinese, or a Puerto Rican. He was a human being, just like everybody else."
:D
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on September 18, 2007, 07:35:25 AM
This was Stony Brook, huh? :D
Yes, Stony Brook!
SB is very diverse :) haha. there're some who're computer geniuses, and some who are complete retards. The thing with stony brook--it's easy to get accepted, but difficult to get into a specific major. Computer science was so competitive, that I had to stay overnight many times to complete my hwk. It really kicked my ass to even get accepted into the major--the requirement was B+ on the first 3 courses (calc, first comp sci course, and another course of my choice).
It's easy to see people who can't do comp sci, doing history. It's just wrong! Because majors like history, sociology, etc had very very low expectations and requirements, resulting in a high percentage of idiots. That's the thing about state schools, I guess. Some majors are not only "better" but even more competitive than a lot of private schools, while everything else can be a waste of people's time.
I already complained a lot about the music program in Stony. Undergrad music is just a joke. There're few exceptional musicians, while most picked up their instruments either late in high school or right in college. These performance majors are wasting their time, and money. If there's so much great unacknowledged talent in this country, I don't think the world is waiting for them to get their diplomas :) Although, I have seen some teachers who actually teach and are awful.
There is one guy at Hofstra, who I just couldn't resist sending an email to while cc'ing the chairman. I was hired to play in the orchestra for marriage of figaro...
-----------------------------
Dear Franklin,
I had the displeasure of playing "the Marriage of Figaro" with you. Your playing was simply pathetic, out of tune, filled with wrong notes and bad scratchy sound. I would highly recommend you to go over basic scales on viola, because even the simplest passages you played sounded absolutely amateur.
Every time moderately difficult passage came up in the music, you had a coughing fit. Unless you are a heavy smoker, there is no reason to cough so much during a performance, and if you are a smoker I highly recommend quitting as soon as possible because it hinders your musical performance.
I am truly shocked that a professor of music at one of the best universities on the East Coast can have such a lack of musical ability. I have seen kids who have been playing viola for just several years who are able to perform much better than you. I also feel that your inability as a musician sends a bad message to the students at Hofstra University, and gives Hofstra University Music Department a bad image.
Sincerely,
D
D
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on September 18, 2007, 07:35:25 AM
"Adolf Hitler was neither a Jew, a Chinese, or a Puerto Rican. He was a human being, just like everybody else."
i almost choked on my water (or at least felt like it) :P
Quote from: greg on September 18, 2007, 08:17:14 AM
i almost choked on my water (or at least felt like it) :P
I did not make that up! I can even see the kid in my mind's eye, now - and would it surprise you that he was a blond WASP with a German name?
D,
I went to a performance of Mozart's Cosi fan Tutte at Hofstra some 15 years ago. I walked out after Act One because the conductor had not even bothered to tune. The string intonation was physically painful.
Quote from: marazm1 on September 18, 2007, 07:59:53 AM
Yes, Stony Brook!
SB is very diverse :) haha.
I finished my BA there after I decided to give up on music as a career (I had originally been accepted as a composition major at the Oberlin Conservatory, but after a year I realized it wasn't for me). I was an English major at SB at a time when the department was quite strong. The star name was the late Alfred Kazin, one of the best-known writers on American literature in the country, and a thoroughly nasty man. (Money quote: student to Alfred: "Why did you pick these books as your reading list"? Kazin: "Because I love them, you idiot!") Some of the other really good profs in English were Homer Goldberg, Tom Kranidas, and Tom Maresca. They were all in my favorite period, 17-18th century English lit. Maresca has now left and is a well-reputed Italian cookbook author. I still see Kranidas quite a bit at concerts in NY. I don't know how the department is now.
End of digression.
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on September 18, 2007, 08:41:25 AM
(I had originally been accepted as a composition major at the Oberlin Conservatory
where's that?
My 9th grade science teacher maintained (during class) a political blog dedicated to proving George Bush was just the best. One day his blog was graced with an anonymous comment from someone who was distressed to hear he had children whom he was teaching intolerance and bigotry. His response:
"In your opinion, which more hateful, to hate hate or to love hate? Equally, which is more intolerant, to be tolerant of intolerance or to be intolerant of intolerance? If you despise hate you admit that hate has purpose and is good. If you love hate, on the other hand, you possess the attribute of love but it is the love of something you deem as impure or evil, which in itself would be evil. Not wanting to love something evil, I suppose, you would promote the hatred of evil, hopefully to the next generation. By the way, do you have kids? Clear thoughts from Clear Choice News"
The anonymous commenter was one of his students (not me).
The ultimate dumbass quote. There was this jock in my high school class who wasn't the brightest. This was an actual exchange:
Bully: Hey, N.
Jock: What?
Bully: You have an IQ of 10.
Jock: So?
Bully: Bread has 11.
Jock: Who is Bread?
Quote from: O Mensch on September 18, 2007, 05:55:38 PM
The ultimate dumbass quote. There was this jock in my high school class who wasn't the brightest. This was an actual exchange:
Bully: Hey, N.
Jock: What?
Bully: You have an IQ of 10.
Jock: So?
Bully: Bread has 11.
Jock: Who is Bread?
what'd be even funnier is if the jock was the bully
my friend's gf. not really well musically informed...
"Oh I like classical music. I like Pachelbel Canon. Mozart wrote it, right?"
Quote from: marazm1 on September 19, 2007, 10:13:19 AM
my friend's gf. not really well musically informed...
"Oh I like classical music. I like Pachelbel Canon. Mozart wrote it, right?"
now that is REALLY funny ;D
Quote from: Larry Rinkel on September 18, 2007, 07:35:25 AM
"Adolf Hitler was neither a Jew, a Chinese, or a Puerto Rican. He was a human being, just like everybody else."
That was hilarious, and really clever too.
"Is Classical music, like, even music? I mean, there's like no words at all!" - Some guy in my World History class in 11th Grade.
Quote from: O Mensch on September 18, 2007, 05:55:38 PM
The ultimate dumbass quote. There was this jock in my high school class who wasn't the brightest. This was an actual exchange:
Bully: Hey, N.
Jock: What?
Bully: You have an IQ of 10.
Jock: So?
Bully: Bread has 11.
Jock: Who is Bread?
LOL, that reminds me of an ancient history class.
Teacher: [talking about certain office holders (can't remember the details, it's too long ago :-\ ;)) in ancient Greece] They were chosen by lot.
Loveable Ditz: Who's Lot?
But yours is better ;D.
Quote from: greg on September 19, 2007, 09:35:27 AM
what'd be even funnier is if the jock was the bully
But that would just make him mentally ill. :-X
Quote from: The Emperor on September 19, 2007, 01:02:43 PM
That was hilarious, and really clever too.
But I'm sure he was completely serious . . .
Quote from: Corey on September 19, 2007, 01:09:30 PM
"Is Classical music, like, even music? I mean, there's like no words at all!" - Some guy in my World History class in 11th Grade.
that's what everyone thinks, i guess :P
one time when i made a recording of me playing guitar for a blues guitar competition i let people in some of my classes listen, and 1 or 2 people said, "where's the singing?" but maybe they misunderstood and thought it was guitar and singing (like making your own song)
either way, it's hard to talk about music with people when 95% of the music you listen to is instrumental and the other 5% no one listens to. :P
Quote from: DavidW on September 19, 2007, 01:41:25 PM
But that would just make him mentally ill. :-X
exactly, that's why it'd be so funny ;D
Quote from: Novitiate on September 19, 2007, 01:15:08 PM
LOL, that reminds me of an ancient history class.
Teacher: [talking about certain office holders (can't remember the details, it's too long ago :-\ ;)) in ancient Greece] They were chosen by lot.
Loveable Ditz: Who's Lot?
If I remember correctly, he's the guy whose daughters gave him a good time.
How this thread was ever neglected I don't know.
Been reading a Financial Times interview from Nov with Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko.
Q."How would you assess election standards in Belarus?"
A."Election standards in Belarus are not only transparent, not only democratic, but democratic and transparent without precedent."
Worth a read, there are quite a few of these (the "what makes a good father?" among others)
http://rassegnastampa.mef.gov.it/mefinternazionale/PDF/2008/2008-11-18/2008111811141838.pdf
I love these threads with stupidities (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,10003.0.html)!
We had this girl in school who was known for quite a few 'gems'. Here is one of hers:
After we had listened to a lengthy exposition about Judaism by some of our classmates, the girl asked the teacher in an almost dramatically serious tone:
Teacher, does Judaism have anything to do with the Jewish religion?
Quote from: tanuki on December 24, 2008, 05:28:49 AM
I love these threads with stupidities (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,10003.0.html)!
We had this girl in school who was known for quite a few 'gems'. Here is one of hers:
After we had listened to a lengthy exposition about Judaism by some of our classmates, the girl asked the teacher in an almost dramatically serious tone:
Teacher, does Judaism have anything to do with the Jewish religion?
If she had somehow confused, say, Zionism for Judaism, though, the question makes sense.
I am quoting myself from another thread.
"A long time ago, when I was a young manager, I had a group of people three of whom happened to be called John Smith. Sitting working, I happened to hear the daftest of the trio, and frankly, it was a close run race, say; 'So that's why they called the month October.' I then asked what they were chatting about.
JS the Egregious 'Well, hundreds of years ago, there was this plague of octopus. They called it the year of the octopus. But once the year was ended, they were so sad, they decided to rename one of the months, so they would never forget the plague. So they ended up with October.'
I pointed out that October was the eighth month of the Roman calender. Immediately JS shot back; 'Nah, it is the 10th month, so that's rubbish....look, Octopus the word starts, O-C-T-O. October, the word starts O-C-T-O.......I rest my case.
I decided that such stupidity was almost treasureable, I just smiled; we all got back to the task and for all I know John Smith The Egregious still believes his fairy story. No one on the entire team thought the octopus explanation unlikely.
There are some people you cannot help.
I rest my case."
Mike
Wow,
Mike. Wow.
Separately . . .QuoteI think most people recognize political satire when they see it.
That was in "defense" of
Barack the Magic Negro (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/27/obama.song/index.html)
George W Bush is has certainly been a terrible president, probably the worst ever, and totally incompetent and misguided. But he is not an evil or malicious man in any way. He does not preach intolerance and hate. His social and economic policies have been awful. But he is for example much more tolerant of gays than many on the religious right. He is more pathetic than contemptible.
Quote from: tanuki on December 24, 2008, 05:28:49 AM
I love these threads with stupidities (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,10003.0.html)!
We had this girl in school who was known for quite a few 'gems'. Here is one of hers:
After we had listened to a lengthy exposition about Judaism by some of our classmates, the girl asked the teacher in an almost dramatically serious tone:
Teacher, does Judaism have anything to do with the Jewish religion?
Was her hair blonde by any chance?
Interview conducted on a random street, New York
Interviewer: Hey mam, may I ask you a question? It is a survey of the ordinary American's IQ.
Dumbass woman: Sure.
Interviewer: Name one country that starts with the letter U.
Dumbass woman: Er...er....um....ah.....ERRR.....*30 seconds later* ( hesitantly) Utah, Yugoslavia??...hmm...not too sure...
Interviewer: Hah hah. How about this one: (gets closer to the woman) United States of America.
Dumbass woman: OHHHH YEAH!!!
Quote from: Jokin' des Prez
Emerson's technical perfection combined with the transparency of their textures may create the illusion of a great interpretation . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on January 03, 2009, 11:29:37 AM
I don't understand this. What separates an illusion of a great interpretation from a great interpretation, if one only has one's senses as the judge?
Quote from: Joe_Campbell on January 03, 2009, 11:31:05 AM
I don't understand this. What separates an illusion of a great interpretation from a great interpretation, if one only has one's senses as the judge?
The technical perfection of the grammar combined with the transparency of the words' meaning may create the illusion of a sensible remark . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on January 03, 2009, 12:14:14 PM
The technical perfection of the grammar combined with the transparency of the words' meaning may create the illusion of a sensible remark . . . .
;D ;D
Quote from: karlhenning on January 03, 2009, 12:14:14 PM
The technical perfection of the grammar combined with the transparency of the words' meaning may create the illusion of a sensible remark . . . .
It's sneaky that way.
I went to an all-male college, so my collection of memorable quotes is broad and deep. My favorite one, of course, didn't come from a colleague, but former Attorney General John Ashcroft, who insisted to a packed house at my
alma mater that we could better appreciate the freedom we have if the government takes some of it away.
But . . . did it seem prophetic at the time, Patrick? ;)
My wife sometimes watches the TV show "The Housewives of Atlanta" or maybe "The Housewives of Orange County". Anyways, one of the dumbass wives on one of those shows has an interest in being a professional singer (although her voice is horrible). She goes to a voice trainer who tells her that she needs to become well versed in reading music and other aspects of the profession. Her reply is, "I don't need to know anything about music, I'm a singer".
Quote from: karlhenning on January 04, 2009, 05:10:21 AM
But . . . did it seem prophetic at the time, Patrick? ;)
No, this was after Uncle John returned to civilian life. He was defending the
fait accompli.
Quote from: Bulldog on January 04, 2009, 12:33:56 PM
My wife sometimes watches the TV show "The Housewives of Atlanta" or maybe "The Housewives of Orange County". Anyways, one of the dumbass wives on one of those shows has an interest in being a professional singer (although her voice is horrible). She goes to a voice trainer who tells her that she needs to become well versed in reading music and other aspects of the profession. Her reply is, "I don't need to know anything about music, I'm a singer".
That's an echo of a famous Elvis quote (whether she meant it so or not) . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on January 05, 2009, 05:18:59 AM
That's an echo of a famous Elvis quote (whether she meant it so or not) . . . .
That housewife is so dumb that I doubt she could remember any quotes.
What, and Elvis was a genius? 8)
Quote from: karlhenning on January 05, 2009, 01:47:42 PM
What, and Elvis was a genius? 8)
Yes, in comparison to the housewife.
Don't be cruel.
All of a sudden, I see an Elvis Presley Ringtones ad at the top of the page. ::)
Drat them ad-sense spiders! ::)
I'm on a trip right now. This afternoon I went to a park where there are actual dinosaur footprints. There are also real-size models of dinosaurs, and there are small speakers by the models that continually transmit sounds of how the dinosaurs might have sounded like (growls, howls, etc.)
We made a guided tour, and after it was finished the guide lady asked if there were any questions. I didn't have any questions, so I started to walk away. Then I overheard a woman asking the guide lady:
Those sounds of dinosaurs you can hear... Are they recordings?
WTF? :P
Quote from: tanuki on January 07, 2009, 02:20:45 PM
I'm on a trip right now. This afternoon I went to a park where there are actual dinosaur footprints. There are also real-size models of dinosaurs, and there are small speakers by the models that continually transmit sounds of how the dinosaurs might have sounded like (growls, howls, etc.)
We made a guided tour, and after it was finished the guide lady asked if there were any questions. I didn't have any questions, so I started to walk away. Then I overheard a woman asking the guide lady:
Those sounds of dinosaurs you can hear... Are they recordings?
WTF? :P
yes somebody should have said that:
yes, dinosaurs were way ahead of their time and the were the first species to invent sound recording. First, instead of what eventually became vinyl, they used stone and etched the soundtrack with sharp rocks. Because of the excavations of the late 19th century, humans became aware of this technology and "rediscovered" it. Mankind owes sound technology to our fossilized ancestors! In addition to the sound recording technology, dinosaurs also invented oil, which is essential in today's economy. Dinosaurs made a "time-capsule investments". They knew that millions of years later, their descendants would depend on it. Thanks, dinosaurs!
Sent to me by my sister-in-law who works in a hosp.
These are sentences actually typed by Medical secretaries in NHS Greater Glasgow.
1. The patient has no previous history of suicides.
2. Patient has left her white blood cells at another hospital.
3. Patient's medical history has been remarkably insignificant with only a 40 pound weight gain in the past three days.
4. She has no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.
5. Patient has chest pain if she lies on her left side for over a year.
6. On the second day the knee was better and on the third day it disappeared.
7. The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to be depressed.
8. The patient has been depressed since she began seeing me in 1993.
9. Discharge status:- Alive, but without my permission.
10. Healthy appearing decrepit 69-year old male, mentally alert, but forgetful.
11. Patient had waffles for breakfast and anorexia for lunch.
12. She is numb from her toes down.
13. While in ER, she was examined, x-rated and sent home
14. The skin was moist and dry.
15. Occasional, constant infrequent headaches.
16. Patient was alert and unresponsive.
17. Rectal examination revealed a normal size thyroid.
18. She stated that she had been constipated for most of her life until she got a divorce.
19. I saw your patient today, who is still under our care for physical therapy.
20. Both breasts are equal and reactive to light and accommodation.
21. Examination of genitalia reveals that he is circus sized.
22. The lab test indicated abnormal lover function.
23. Skin: somewhat pale, but present.
24. The pelvic exam will be done later on the floor.
25. Large brown stool ambulating in the hall.
26. Patient has two teenage children, but no other abnormalities
27. When she fainted, her eyes rolled around the room.
28. The patient was in his usual state of good health until his airplane ran out of fuel and crashed.
29. Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.
30. She slipped on the ice and apparently her legs went in separate directions in early December.
31. Patient was seen in consultation by Dr. Smith, who felt we should sit on the abdomen and I agree.
32. The patient was to have a bowel resection. However, he took a job as a stock broker instead.
33. By the time he was admitted, his rapid heart had stopped, and he was feeling better.
Can't laugh for weeping!
Hm, that certainly looks a lot like this page (http://www.rinkworks.com/said/patients.shtml). ::)
By the way, I used to read the computer stupidities (http://www.rinkworks.com/stupid/) on that page. They're priceless!
That was pretty funny Mike, now I have to check out Tanuki's links! :D
Yes these things circulate, difficult to tell what is genuine and where urban myth takes over.
Mike
Quote from: knight on January 15, 2009, 01:16:50 PM
11. Patient had waffles for breakfast and anorexia for lunch.
Ha! I almost choked at this one.
I see myself in this, also my students. ;D
http://asil.logicalinsanity.ca/300college%20paper.html (http://asil.logicalinsanity.ca/300college%20paper.html)
To modernize simply replace email with facebook, and kazaa with mininova (actually I don't think my students are torrent savvy).
The ACTUAL way we write papers is:
1. Turn on computer.
2. Open browser.
3. Go to google.com.
4. Google "[insert topic here]".
5. Check out first three or four results.
6. Copy & paste the website with the most text (it doesn't matter if the content is at all relevant) into Word.
7. Print.
I've seen classmates who have actually left hyperlinks in their papers! Things like "click here to continue" or "from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia".
I actually have a little story about this. A classmate of mine borrowed a physics homework from me, "just to compare the results". Later I found out that not only had he plagiarized most of my work, but he had left a xeroxed copy of my homework on the folder he gave to the teacher! How stupid is that? :P
Quote from: knight on January 15, 2009, 01:16:50 PM
Sent to me by my sister-in-law who works in a hosp.
These are sentences actually typed by Medical secretaries in NHS Greater Glasgow.
1. The patient has no previous history of suicides.
2. Patient has left her white blood cells at another hospital.
3. Patient's medical history has been remarkably insignificant with only a 40 pound weight gain in the past three days.
4. She has no rigors or shaking chills, but her husband states she was very hot in bed last night.
5. Patient has chest pain if she lies on her left side for over a year.
6. On the second day the knee was better and on the third day it disappeared.
7. The patient is tearful and crying constantly. She also appears to be depressed.
8. The patient has been depressed since she began seeing me in 1993.
9. Discharge status:- Alive, but without my permission.
10. Healthy appearing decrepit 69-year old male, mentally alert, but forgetful.
11. Patient had waffles for breakfast and anorexia for lunch.
12. She is numb from her toes down.
13. While in ER, she was examined, x-rated and sent home
14. The skin was moist and dry.
15. Occasional, constant infrequent headaches.
16. Patient was alert and unresponsive.
17. Rectal examination revealed a normal size thyroid.
18. She stated that she had been constipated for most of her life until she got a divorce.
19. I saw your patient today, who is still under our care for physical therapy.
20. Both breasts are equal and reactive to light and accommodation.
21. Examination of genitalia reveals that he is circus sized.
22. The lab test indicated abnormal lover function.
23. Skin: somewhat pale, but present.
24. The pelvic exam will be done later on the floor.
25. Large brown stool ambulating in the hall.
26. Patient has two teenage children, but no other abnormalities
27. When she fainted, her eyes rolled around the room.
28. The patient was in his usual state of good health until his airplane ran out of fuel and crashed.
29. Between you and me, we ought to be able to get this lady pregnant.
30. She slipped on the ice and apparently her legs went in separate directions in early December.
31. Patient was seen in consultation by Dr. Smith, who felt we should sit on the abdomen and I agree.
32. The patient was to have a bowel resection. However, he took a job as a stock broker instead.
33. By the time he was admitted, his rapid heart had stopped, and he was feeling better.
Now that was good stuff.
Quote from: DavidW on January 15, 2009, 04:16:22 PM
I see myself in this, also my students. ;D
http://asil.logicalinsanity.ca/300college%20paper.html (http://asil.logicalinsanity.ca/300college%20paper.html)
To modernize simply replace email with facebook, and kazaa with mininova (actually I don't think my students are torrent savvy).
Very true, indeed. I don't facebook, or myspace, or download from mininova, but I check email frequently when I lack inspiration for writing, and stay up late.
Quote from: karlhenning on January 05, 2009, 05:18:59 AM
That's an echo of a famous Elvis quote (whether she meant it so or not) . . . .
Now, that is a very famous joke among opera lovers (whether it came from Elvis or not) . . . .
Quote from: imperfection on January 02, 2009, 09:15:30 PM
Interview conducted on a random street, New York
Interviewer: Hey mam, may I ask you a question? It is a survey of the ordinary American's IQ.
Dumbass woman: Sure.
Interviewer: Name one country that starts with the letter U.
Dumbass woman: Er...er....um....ah.....ERRR.....*30 seconds later* ( hesitantly) Utah, Yugoslavia??...hmm...not too sure...
Interviewer: Hah hah. How about this one: (gets closer to the woman) United States of America.
Dumbass woman: OHHHH YEAH!!!
You took it from here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6W3T7MTh4M - you could take a bunch of other quotes from there as well.... about the Eiffel Tower, for instance. Loved it. Or "Tony Blair is an actor."
Quote from: Sarastro on January 15, 2009, 06:58:27 PM
Or "Tony Blair is an actor."
He pretty much is :P Unlike GWB, he has enough cunning to be aware of when he is lying...