I'm thinking of downloading an additional browser to my computer. And since I have I.E., that additional browser would be Firefox.
If I did download it, i would NOT immediately make it my default browser, but would hope to gain more information about it before doing so.
1. Will I be able to open my WebMail acct in Firefox even thougn it is presently opened in I.E.?
2. Will I lose access to all the web pages for which I have Icons on my desktop?
3. And in general does one broweres in any way, INTERFERE with the other?
Thanks.
No they don't interfere. You don't lose anything. You gain speed and better security, however.
Convert to Firefox. Now.
And don't forget to further optimize your connection (only for broadbands) by configurating these settings in firefox: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts
What he said ^^. Firefox is a lot better, and you must be the last human still using IE :P
Quote from: Bonehelm on November 08, 2007, 07:04:25 PM
No they don't interfere. You don't lose anything. You gain speed and better security, however.
Convert to Firefox. Now.
And don't forget to further optimize your connection (only for broadbands) by configurating these settings in firefox: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299854/posts
Hey, thanks for that. I'll see how it works.
Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on November 08, 2007, 07:05:48 PM
What he said ^^. Firefox is a lot better, and you must be the last human still using IE :P
Who says I'm human?
Remember, I am IAGO.
Quote from: Iago on November 08, 2007, 07:12:26 PM
Who says I'm human?
Remember, I am IAGO.
Old and out of touch with modernity and humanity, but still human ;)
You still use I.E? I promise you that once you go Firefox, you can't go back.
I like Opera much more than Firefox. Give it a try.
I hate Firefox. Crashes badly on my connection (although the auto-restore of sessions is cool). I also find it uglier to view than IE7. And there are, believe it or not, some functions on some sites which seem not to be viewable in Firefox (or at least, this was the case for me as recently as a year ago). It's put me off switching for now.
My wife, OTOH, loves Firefox.
Quote from: Mark on November 08, 2007, 09:34:27 PM
I hate Firefox. Crashes badly on my connection (although the auto-restore of sessions is cool). I also find it uglier to view than IE7. And there are, believe it or not, some functions on some sites which seem not to be viewable in Firefox (or at least, this was the case for me as recently as a year ago). It's put me off switching for now.
My wife, OTOH, loves Firefox.
So which one is the default browser? Seems like a big conflict would arise over this.
All i need to say is this: RSS Feeds.
Iago - you could do a lot worse than Firefox as your browser and one of those worse options includes IE. However, to answer your questions as best I can.
1. Yes, you can still access your webmail account in Firefox - in fact you can in any browser provided you have your e-mail address and password.
2 You won't necessarily lose access to any webpages but I'm surprised that they're on your desktop - I thought they'd be in your bookmarks! If they are then be reassured that all bookmarks can be easily imported from IE
3 The two browsers do not clash in any way.
What I'd suggest is that you download FF and give it a try to see if you like it. If you do then go to the menu bar and
File
click "import"
check the IE box then click next
click next again
click finish.
If they are on the desk top this will take a bit more work but is doable.
Good luck and feel free to PM me if you want some more assistance
Let me quick point out that putting a shortcut on your desktop is not like having it bookmarked. It is a simple file association like any other document would be. So double clicking it launches whatever application is the default for that file type. If you make Firefox your default browser, then launching a ".htm" file will open Firefox. :)
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Opera: My default browser
Firefox: In case the page is coded IE in mind against the standards and does not work 100 % with Opera.
IE: Never!
Firefox is my favorite browser. Occasionally a page won't work right, but I just right-click to open IE and there you are. :) You can make it look any way you want, and since it has never strayed far from its Netscape roots in its basic layout everyone knows how to use it right away. Unfortunately, it's rather slow, no faster than IE, but the good news is Firefox 3 is blazing fast (I use it almost exclusively now). It should be available in a few weeks.
As for looks:
(http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/5969/clipboard01as6.jpg)
(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7788/clipboard02zt5.jpg)
(http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/359/clipboard03cs8.jpg)
Edit: My speed info was out of date: FF 1.5 and earlier were slow, but still faster than IE. All these browsers are faster than they were 2 years ago. Opera is still the speed champ.
Quote from: XB-70 Valkyrie on November 08, 2007, 08:19:21 PM
I like Opera much more than Firefox. Give it a try.
Me too! I love Opera...in Windows, which I have used so far until I bought a Macbook two months ago. Unfortunately, Opera is horrible in OS X (slow, crashes sometimes and lacks some functions of the Windows version!). Safari is too bare-bones but at least it's fast and light. So I continue to use Opera with OS X.
Quote from: E..L..I..A..S.. =) on November 08, 2007, 09:50:15 PM
So which one is the default browser? Seems like a big conflict would arise over this.
We each have both on each of our logins. ;)
Yeah, my GF uses Seamonkey, so when she clicks on it, it goes to her start page. When I click on my FF, it goes to my start page. This way we can go to our respective Yahoo mailboxes without the usual logout/login routine. Also (a little trick) we use this little "save password" bookmarklet to stay permanently logged in. When the login screen comes up in Yahoo Mail it fills in username and password automatically! What fun! :)
Since I run my computer as a "no log in, single user" machine, I have to use one browser as default (FF 2).
I use Opera (9.24) for everything. Only when something really isn't working (like an online edition of the magazine 'Die Fackel' by the great Viennese satirist Karl Kraus), I revert to IE...
Obviously, a true classical music lover would have to use Opera. (I'm assuming a true classical music lover cannot have an anti-vocal-music bias... ;D)
I've been using Opera for quite a while (since version 7, or was it 6?) and I'm 100% satisfied.
I do revert to IE, however, when I have to deal with streaming windows media - neither Opera nor Firefox seem to know how to properly put to use the WMP plugin..... ::)
Never got on with the Opera browser. It seemed too buggy when I last tried it about two years ago. :-\
Quote from: Mark on November 13, 2007, 12:10:16 AM
Never got on with the Opera browser. It seemed too buggy when I last tried it about two years ago. :-\
Internet pages are buggy*, Opera browser is not that buggy.
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*Pages are written mainly for IE and that shitty browser does not follow standard.
Quote from: 71 dB on November 13, 2007, 07:12:04 AM
Internet pages are buggy*, Opera browser is not that buggy.
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*Pages are written mainly for IE and that shitty browser does not follow standard.
The sheer irony of which is that IE is now
so 'standard', you'd think it would be the other way around. ;)
Well, I installed Firefox.
And its working perfectly.
Much better than any version of I.E., I've ever used.
It's certainly just as fast (if not faster). And its simple uncluttered layout is just what I like.
My ONLY criticism of it is that I am forced to change the text size for each web page that I go to.
I've used Firefox for some years for most things. I'm sure it will give you little trouble.
For my Hotmail account or for downloading large essays (i.e., magazine articles) in Adobe Acrobat I find I.E. works better.
Opera is far, far less buggy than FireFox, The People's Browser.
Quote from: Iago on November 13, 2007, 10:02:36 AM
Well, I installed Firefox.
And its working perfectly.
Much better than any version of I.E., I've ever used.
It's certainly just as fast (if not faster). And its simple uncluttered layout is just what I like.
My ONLY criticism of it is that I am forced to change the text size for each web page that I go to.
I am fairly sure you will be happy with it, I have been for over 2 years now. Oddly enough, I have that text issue too, but I put it down to my eyes getting older. :) I hope you take the easy way and use ctrl + plus sign/minus sign to make the text larger and smaller. The only one it really bothers me on is my email (gmail) program, and I leave it open in its own tab all the time, with larger text always. :)
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Quote from: Conservationist on November 13, 2007, 05:11:37 PM
Opera is far, far less buggy than FireFox, The People's Browser.
At least more security holes are found in FF.
Quote from: 71 dB on November 14, 2007, 01:55:29 AM
At least more security holes are found in FF.
so, how many times is Opera greater than Firefox in this case?
I dont know nothing about security issues (neither do I care) but I've used both Opera and FireFox and Opera is especially good at dealing with font sizes, zooming in etc. I can remember that FireFox enlarges only the text like in Internet Explorer, while Opera enlarges everything on the page. That and the built in mouse gestures Opera has and the minimalism beyond that is why I still use Opera and really really dislike FireFox.
Quote from: GBJGZW on November 15, 2007, 09:20:11 AM
so, how many times is Opera greater than Firefox in this case?
Greater? ??? Less security holes are found in Opera than in Firefox. Simple as that.
I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a FF extension that handles the text size problem. FFers can go here (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browse/type:1) to check out all the wonderful add-ons for your browser. :)
One of the most useful, directly relevant to another frequent complaint, is IE View (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/35), which allows you to right click on troublesome web pages to bring them up in IE.
(https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/images/preview/35/1)
Just download IE View and it will automatically install. You can keep a list of "always open in IE" as well.
Firefox 3 Beta 1 is out. Download it here. (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html) And don't forget to create a new profile. :)
Firefox 3.1 alpha (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/) is available for the adventurous. I'm running it now and it's the fastest browser I've ever used. Your themes/extensions won't work, though.
I'm running the new 3.0 version and it's great. So far. What theme are you using Drogulus?
Here they are:
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1439/themes1ru4.jpg)(http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7919/themes2in1.jpg)
So your using pitch dark?
BTW, when I click that link I get nothing.
What are those themes? Skin styles?
BTW, M has tried Firefox, but not much. M uses Opera. One of the main reasons for that is that M downloads a lot of music sometimes, from places like Operashare, and the download list in Opera is the best, it's easiest to keep track of what's downloading and what the progress is, etc.
Apart from that, I can not say I see a huge difference between Opera and Firefox or IE. Now that they all have tabs, at least. Maybe I am not a real "power surfer"
:D
Quote from: M forever on June 17, 2008, 07:22:53 PM
What are those themes? Skin styles?
BTW, M has tried Firefox, but not much. M uses Opera. One of the main reasons for that is that M downloads a lot of music sometimes, from places like Operashare, and the download list in Opera is the best, it's easiest to keep track of what's downloading and what the progress is, etc.
Apart from that, I can not say I see a huge difference between Opera and Firefox or IE. Now that they all have tabs, at least. Maybe I am not a real "power surfer"
:D
Who are you, Elmo? Referring to yourself in third-person and such...
M is not a person, neither the third nor the first. M is a state of being, elevated, removed, elusive, forever.
Well, firefox is not giving me a video viewing problem I had in iexplore.exe. Also, facebook chat works without a hitch. So right now, I'm slowly mosying to ff's side.
The Awesome Bar is, well, awesome! Fx3 has been fast, definitely. The only gripe I have right now is that it locks up while checking the live bookmarks, and I have quite a few of them. Right now I'm using RC1. The update to the 3.0, along with Open Office and whole bunch of other stuff, is waiting to be downloaded and installed. One thing about Fx3 on Linux is that it merges with the GNOME theme you've installed. (That may or may not be a good thing. 0:) )
Quote from: Howard on June 17, 2008, 05:08:02 PM
So your using pitch dark?
BTW, when I click that link I get nothing.
I just checked it and it works for me. Try again or use
this one (http://rapidshare.com/files/123314416/firefox-3.1a1pre.en-US.win32.installer.exe.html).
Quote from: drogulus on June 18, 2008, 04:37:17 AM
I just checked it and it works for me. Try again or use this one (http://rapidshare.com/files/123314416/firefox-3.1a1pre.en-US.win32.installer.exe.html).
Thanks. I have "surf control" at work, so I'll check it later.
I think our wires got crossed form the start. :)
I'm only asking which theme you are using. I know how to download any of them as a plug - in. :)
Quote from: Howard on June 18, 2008, 04:44:15 AM
Thanks. I have "surf control" at work, so I'll check it later.
I think our wires got crossed form the start. :)
I'm only asking which theme you are using. I know how to download any of them as a plug - in. :)
Yeah, I didn't do any theme links.
I have run my FF 3.1 naked, since there aren't any themes/extensions ready for it, at least not that I know of. Maybe I'll try to find some later today.
I have upgraded to FF3 myself, but Tab Mix Plus extension is not compatible [yet] :( So I downgraded back to FF2. I don't know how you people can manage without that add-on.
Quote from: orbital on June 18, 2008, 02:21:49 PM
I have upgraded to FF3 myself, but Tab Mix Plus extension is not compatible [yet] :( So I downgraded back to FF2. I don't know how you people can manage without that add-on.
Tab Mix Plus for FF3 (http://tmp.garyr.net/tab_mix_plus-dev-build.xpi)
:)
Quote from: drogulus on June 18, 2008, 02:42:51 PM
Tab Mix Plus for FF3 (http://tmp.garyr.net/tab_mix_plus-dev-build.xpi) :)
Thanks man. Have you tried it? I downloaded [I think] this file earlier today, but it does not function under FF3 :(
Quote from: orbital on June 18, 2008, 03:05:42 PM
Thanks man. Have you tried it? I downloaded [I think] this file earlier today, but it does not function under FF3 :(
This isn't the one on the site. I tried it just to make sure it was the right one, and it is. Then I uninstalled it.
Quote from: orbital on June 18, 2008, 03:05:42 PM
Thanks man. Have you tried it? I downloaded [I think] this file earlier today, but it does not function under FF3 :(
Works fine on mine. I think it does anyway. What does it do exactly?
I've got so used to TMP, that I can't really use Firefox without it. It's a great extension.
Quote from: Howard on June 18, 2008, 03:13:12 PM
What does it do exactly?
It lets you modify some behaviour of tabs, how links are opened and where, and it also gives you some extra functionality, like duplicating tabs, re-opening closed ones, etc. It also comes with a session manager, but Firefox also has its own version of session restore feature. You can decide which to use in the options/preferences.
Quote from: drogulus on June 18, 2008, 03:08:59 PM
This isn't the one on the site. I tried it just to make sure it was the right one, and it is. Then I uninstalled it.
Great, it does work! Thanks a lot drogulus. I tried this yesterday but it wasn't working. apparently what you have to do is, reset the extension to its factory default first. After that you may modify it to your needs.
Howard, if you want to see it in action, go to TMP options - "Events" tab, and choose how you want it to organize new tabs. I normally set it up to open new tabs in every case except when there is an internal link.
Uh oh... My FF 3.1 just auto-updated from 6/16 to 6/18. >:( That's not nice, so I'll go into Options and make it ask first.
OK, this time I told it to "check for updates" and it went to 6/19. That's better.
And I have my first 3.1 theme, Charamel, one of my faves. It's messing with the search box, but I can work around that. The tab bar is also not quite right. I might have to get rid of it.
(http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5310/threebrowsersax2.th.jpg) (http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=threebrowsersax2.jpg)
Here're all 3 versions of FF (3,3.1, and 2) running at the same time.
Anyone know a way to widen the bar that slides up and down on the far right?
Quote from: Howard on June 19, 2008, 02:23:35 PM
Anyone know a way to widen the bar that slides up and down on the far right?
There's probably something at the
Mozillazine Forums (http://forums.mozillazine.org/). I doesn't look like you can adjust it from what I'm reading. All the themes I'm looking at have the same width, and if it was adjustable the thememakers would play with it.
Thanks for the TMP extension. This is new to me and very useful!
Quote from: drogulus on June 18, 2008, 02:42:51 PM
Tab Mix Plus for FF3 (http://tmp.garyr.net/tab_mix_plus-dev-build.xpi) :)
Thank you so much, this is a big help.
If you're a Firefox user who doesn't want to be bothered by banner ads or unwanted Flash thingies, then you must have
- Adblock Filterset.G Updater (http://www.pierceive.com/)
- Adblock Plus (http://adblockplus.org/)
- NoScript (http://noscript.net)
The internet is quite a different place with these two. (Filterset should only be used in conjunction with AB+.)
Oh, and if you're a Forum junkie, it helps to have BBCode (https://addons.mozilla.org/tr/firefox/addon/128), too. ;D
Is there in Firefox an add-on or option to make download page open as a new tab rather than new window?
edit: nevermind, found it.
Drasko, the basic Options choices are enough for me. For more options, there's the tab extension linked to earlier. This is my simple setup for tabs:
(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3328/optionshz1.th.jpg) (http://img357.imageshack.us/my.php?image=optionshz1.jpg)
I have actually started to have a problem with Firefox today (still on version 2.0 here), where the loading of a page can get stuck in a complete loop - you can see the notes in the status bar going berserk between stopping/starting.... Bizarre thing, that seem to happen only in a second tab or new window, whilst the main one is working perfectly fine. Has anybody experienced something like that before please ?
thanks.
Olivier
PS : now running Antivirus, anti-spyware, to be on the safe side...might try re-installing FF later on if the scans are clear too.
Quote from: papy on June 21, 2008, 10:34:33 AM
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PS : now running Antivirus, anti-spyware, to be on the safe side...might try re-installing FF later on if the scans are clear too.
First you might try clearing the cache, and if that doesn't work try uninstalling and reinstalling FF while saving your settings, IOW using the same profile. Often that does the trick. If that doesn't work you can create a new profile.
Quote from: drogulus on June 21, 2008, 09:06:09 AM
Drasko, the basic Options choices are enough for me. For more options, there's the tab extension linked to earlier. This is my simple setup for tabs:
I was looking for something specific (for opening download page as tab) which isn't covered by basic options and I found it. It's an add-on titled Download Manager Tweak. Here is how it looks:
Quote from: Drasko on June 21, 2008, 04:06:08 PM
I was looking for something specific (for opening download page as tab) which isn't covered by basic options and I found it. It's an add-on titled Download Manager Tweak. Here is how it looks:
You read my mind! I was just going to ask about this. Thanks so much!
Quote from: Rachmaninov on June 21, 2008, 04:07:14 PM
You read my mind! I was just going to ask about this. Thanks so much!
Actually, it is not compatible with FF 3.0. :-[
Anyone know of an add on that will open all links ion a tab instead of a new window?
Quote from: Drasko on June 21, 2008, 04:06:08 PM
I was looking for something specific (for opening download page as tab) which isn't covered by basic options and I found it. It's an add-on titled Download Manager Tweak. Here is how it looks:
Oh, I see! That is a neat feature. I think I'm content with the little download window, though. But tabs really are addictive, aren't they? I can't live without them now!
:) The IE Team sent the Mozilla Team a cake!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2587912633_9084fecde4.jpg?v=0)
Quote from: Drasko on June 21, 2008, 04:06:08 PM
I was looking for something specific (for opening download page as tab) which isn't covered by basic options and I found it. It's an add-on titled Download Manager Tweak. Here is how it looks:
Opera does that out of the box!
Quote from: M forever on June 21, 2008, 05:12:17 PM
Opera does that out of the box!
Yes, I know. Opera has been my default browser for last few years but the latest upgrade (9.5) is acting funny on me past week (freezing, refusing to maximize...) so I switched to Firefox while figure that out.
Opera used to have a feature where on the downloads tab, you could right-click the download and select "open folder" but it doesn't have that anymore. That sucks because it is very practical when you do a number of downloads and when they are all finished, you want to "process" them, e.g. by joining or unpacking or simply organizing and testing files, and you want to go directly into the folders where the files are without clicking around in Windows File Explorer. Does Firefox have something comparable?
Quote from: M forever on June 21, 2008, 05:31:06 PM
Opera used to have a feature where on the downloads tab, you could right-click the download and select "open folder" but it doesn't have that anymore. That sucks because it is very practical when you do a number of downloads and when they are all finished, you want to "process" them, e.g. by joining or unpacking or simply organizing and testing files, and you want to go directly into the folders where the files are without clicking around in Windows File Explorer. Does Firefox have something comparable?
This tweak has it, both as right-click and as an icon on download toolbar. See below.
Well, I've been intrigued by the idea of trying Opera for quite some time, but I've been satisfied with Firefox, so I kept postponing. This conversation prompted me to download v.9.5. Is there anything in particular I should know before I fire it up? BTW, I've been using Firefox 2.0.0.14, been using Firefox since, hell, I don't remember, 1.0.0.5? Anyway, a long time. Maybe time for a change. :)
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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 21, 2008, 05:54:23 PM
Well, I've been intrigued by the idea of trying Opera for quite some time, but I've been satisfied with Firefox, so I kept postponing. This conversation prompted me to download v.9.5. Is there anything in particular I should know before I fire it up? BTW, I've been using Firefox 2.0.0.14, been using Firefox since, hell, I don't remember, 1.0.0.5? Anyway, a long time. Maybe time for a change. :)
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I've been using it since Phoenix 0.4, and you're a traitor.
>:( (http://theseblog.free.fr/phoenix-0.4.jpg)
Did I say that?? OK, just kidding.. :-[
Quote from: drogulus on June 21, 2008, 06:55:16 PM
I've been using it since Phoenix 0.4, and you're a traitor. >:(
(http://theseblog.free.fr/phoenix-0.4.jpg)
Did I say that?? OK, just kidding.. :-[
Don't deny it. :) I just want to see what else is out there. I probably got into Firefox because of a rec from you, but you held out for a long time, apparently, before sharing... ;)
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Martha Argerich / Nikolaus Harnoncourt, The Chamber Orchestra Of Europe - Op 54 Piano Concerto in a 3rd mvmt - Allegro vivace
I'd like to give Opera a shot but it's too geeky for me. Or, it's even too geeky for me.
::) I've been spoiled by my long association with Netscape/Mozilla/Phoenix/Seamonkey and the rest. They've never changed the basic layout much, so it's just the most comfortable for me. I can't even use IE any more, it looks so strange.
Quote from: M forever on June 21, 2008, 05:31:06 PM
Opera used to have a feature where on the downloads tab, you could right-click the download and select "open folder" but it doesn't have that anymore. That sucks because it is very practical when you do a number of downloads and when they are all finished, you want to "process" them, e.g. by joining or unpacking or simply organizing and testing files, and you want to go directly into the folders where the files are without clicking around in Windows File Explorer. Does Firefox have something comparable?
In FF you have a choice to either...I'll show you:
(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/5259/dlhq5.jpg)
I usually just open the folder, but if I know it's safe I sometimes just run it.
Drogulus - Do you know why some of the links I click on open in another window rather than a tab? I'm on a MAC OSX notebook.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/perspective.png)
Quote from: Rachmaninov on June 21, 2008, 07:32:06 PM
Drogulus - Do you know why some of the links I click on open in another window rather than a tab? I'm on a MAC OSX notebook.
Im not sure, but do MAC OSX notebook's have a ctrl key? If so, pressing ctrl +click should open a new tab. If there is not ctrl key, then I can't help, sorry :-\
Quote from: drogulus on June 21, 2008, 07:16:12 PM
I'd like to give Opera a shot but it's too geeky for me.
Too geeky?
I have been using Opera for 2 years now. But I am not upgrading to v 9.51 very soon, 9.27 is working very well and there are too many tales of woe on the Opera boards.
Milos, I've upgraded to 9.5 last week and am not 100% satisfied either. It doesn't crash, but from time to time it slows down noticeably - sort of freezes for a sec. Really irritating, hope 9.51 comes out SOON. >:(
Gurn, for the reasons stated above, 9.5 might not be the perfect version to start with - if you like, I can upload the 9.27 installer for you. I think I have it somewhere... (Though, judging by some of the enthusiastic reactions on the forums, not everyone has problems with the new version.) Whichever version you use, it's a good idea to start by carefully going through all of the preferences (Ctrl+F12) and the appearance settings (Shift+F12). You can also set separate viewing settings for each web page. Simply press F12 while viewing a given page and select "Edit site preferences...".
I've been using Opera since at least v.6 (well, I actually think it was 4, but 6 is the one I have written evidence for $:)). I also have FF, but use it very rarely - mainly because a) I find it a bit too geeky ( ;D because of all the hassle with the add-ons etc.), b) each upgrade means starting all over again (with the add-ons etc.), c) without the add-ons, FF is not very "configurable" (whereas in Opera you can change, or even add, practically anything without additional tools). The only function that I have in FF that I miss in Opera is a spell checker which underlines the incorrect words while I type (Word-like). There are, however, many more features I have in Opera that FF doesn't have, at least not without the appropriate add-ons, and I'm far too lazy to search for those. ::)
But I don't want to start another Opera vs. FF debate - clearly each browser has a deserved following. 0:) And, in fact, I'm actually writing this message in FF. ;D (The reason being that it is Sunday, and I don't want to even look at my e-mails, as it might end up in my getting entangled in something work-related ;))
Quote from: drogulus on June 21, 2008, 03:29:18 PM
First you might try clearing the cache, and if that doesn't work try uninstalling and reinstalling FF while saving your settings, IOW using the same profile. Often that does the trick. If that doesn't work you can create a new profile.
Clearing the cache had made no difference, and as all scans were clear, I have done a full reinstall, this time with version 3, and the glitch has gone like it had arrived. I have checked some of the links that were initially playing up, and all is ok now.
Quote from: JCampbell on June 22, 2008, 12:32:35 AM
Im not sure, but do MAC OSX notebook's have a ctrl key? If so, pressing ctrl +click should open a new tab. If there is not ctrl key, then I can't help, sorry :-\
Yeah, I know how to manually open a new tab. What I want is for each new linked website or download to come up in a tab.
Quote from: Rachmaninov on June 22, 2008, 04:45:26 AM
What I want is for each new linked website or download to come up in a tab.
[emphasis mine]
I hope you have installed Tabs Mixed Plus that was linked to earlier. Go to the TMP options->Links and set the first (or the first two, if you'd like to open stuff from another program, say a web link from Google Earth, in a new tab) to New Tab from the drop-down list.
TMP doesn't handle the download manager window. (Merging windows doesn't seem to work with the download manager.) And the procedure to get a non-compatible version to work is something I have not tried, and something that is not recommended by Mozilla. There is yet another extension that opens anything and everything in the sidebar. (All-in-One Sidebar (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1027)) In some ways, this is more convenient than having the download manager open in a new tab, since you can view the downloads while viewing a normal webpage.
Thanks very much Opus! :)
Quote from: Rachmaninov on June 22, 2008, 06:53:17 AM
Thanks very much Opus! :)
You're welcome. :) One more thing, middle-clicking a link (middle mouse button or mouse wheel) also open it a new tab.
Quote from: M forever on June 22, 2008, 12:47:31 AM
Too geeky?
This may just mean that I don't understand how all the various options work, since the browser hasn't evolved out of Netscape. Everything in FF is simple. All the complexities are in extensions. If I made the effort I'm sure I could come to appreciate Opera.
Here's FF in traditional native dress.
:) (http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5016/netfoxho8.jpg)
Who is Stephen D. Biddle?
Do you think Opera is difficult to operate (pun intended)?
No, you only get one question. $:)
Opera is difficult because it's unintuitive for someone as old-fashioned as me. I need everything to be simple so I can learn it quickly without effort.
I think you've got something there. Opera isn't exactly easy to "get into" (though I think it has improved over the years) - but once you're sucked in... well, you start to rely on all of those options you've managed to master (and you also get used to the fact that you've almost dispensed with the mouse). ;D But almost all of my attempts to convert others (in real life, not through internet forums ;D) have failed, and I think it must have something to do with the steep learning curve... Or maybe it's just that old habits die hard.
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 21, 2008, 05:54:23 PM
BTW, I've been using Firefox 2.0.0.14, been using Firefox since, hell, I don't remember, 1.0.0.5? Anyway, a long time. Maybe time for a change.
They've just rolled out 3.0 . . . .
Maciek! Happy birthday! Many happy returns!
Quote from: -abe- on June 21, 2008, 07:45:48 PM
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/perspective.png)
I don't think this happens in real life, does it?
(it's just a cartoon, right?) :-\
Ha, ha, ha. Good one! ;D
And thank you, Karl! :)
For those who use Tweak Network as an add on, what settings do you use? The default, power or some other setting? I am using a MAC Powerbook G4.
I'm an Opera user since years. 9.5 has vastly improved. Get it and get the "Sharp polished" skin, which is an improved default skin, better Tab contrast.
While you type into the 9.5 adress bar, it does even display (immediately) urls, which you have visited before, i.e. it even searches in the websites full text. A good reason to keep the cache. Especially for websites you have visited before, it makes it way easier to find them.
Another good thing (but existed before) is the search abbreviations, which makes you able to just type e.g. "you blah" - which opens a Youtube search for "blah".
But . . . who wants to search for "blah" on youtube? 8)
BTW just try www.opera-usb.com just for a try, no need for installing it. I have to say it seems to have a problem currently. If you have numerous downloads at once, the tabs are very inresponsive, even though opera does not consume a lot cpu.
Quote from: Wurstwasser on June 23, 2008, 03:33:13 AM
While you type into the 9.5 adress bar, it does even display (immediately) urls, which you have visited before
But that feature was there before (before 9.5, I mean) - and I think it's part of the standard in most web browsers, isn't it? I think even Internet Explorer has it?
PS Stop putting Opera down, Karl! A quick and easy way to search for blah on YouTube is a feature
everyone appreciates -
everyone but you, apparently. ::) ;D
Quote from: Maciek on June 23, 2008, 05:44:27 AMBut that feature was there before (before 9.5, I mean) - and I think it's part of the standard in most web browsers, isn't it? I think even Internet Explorer has it?
No, the difference is, it
searches in the websites content as well, if you want it to. If you'd type "blah" into the adressbar, it would suggest this GMG page.
Wow! Sounds cool. 8) Does it do it by default or do you have to activate it somewhere? I'm trying to make it work right now (typing in all sorts of words from recently visited sites), but no luck... :-\ All I get is a list of sites which have the typed word in the page title - but can't get it to suggest a site with the word in its actual content... ???
Here's a speed test (http://celtickane.com/webdesign/jsspeed.php) done today comparing all the browsers on my rig. Your results will differ, though the relative differences should be close.
IE 7: 1035 ms
FF 2.0.0.16pre: 788ms
Seamonkey 1.1.8: 728 ms
FF 3: 278 ms
Safari 3.1.1: 270 ms
FF 3.1a1pre: 204 ms
What does this mean? It means that the new browsers are better. My FF 2 is as up to date as can be, but it's old tech and won't run faster. The older ones can't keep up. Still, most of the surfing slowdowns are traffic related or due to problems with the site.
Quote from: Maciek on June 23, 2008, 11:39:31 AMWow! Sounds cool. 8) Does it do it by default or do you have to activate it somewhere? I'm trying to make it work right now (typing in all sorts of words from recently visited sites), but no luck... :-\ All I get is a list of sites which have the typed word in the page title - but can't get it to suggest a site with the word in its actual content... ???
Not sure about the default value, but you can turn it on this way: Put this into the adress field:
opera:config#Addressbar Content SearchTurn it on, save, restart opera. It's really powerful.
Here you see how the results are presented:
(http://minnit.de/etc/opera-search.png)
Anyone having trouble scrolling with the up and down keyboard keys? On the old Firefox, I could just scroll up or down using the keys and now this function doesn't always work and I have to use the scroll bar instead.
Firefox question - is there a keyboard shortcut to go to the last tab used (an equivelent of windows alt+tab) rather than just one tab forwards (shift+tab) or backwards (ctrl+shift+tab)?
Quote from: Lethe on June 24, 2008, 08:12:15 AM
Firefox question - is there a keyboard shortcut to go to the last tab used (an equivelent of windows alt+tab) rather than just one tab forwards (shift+tab) or backwards (ctrl+shift+tab)?
Don't you mean Ctrl+tab (in Firefox)?
Anyway, by default, Firefox switches tabs in the order that they were opened. If you have TMP installed and enabled, go to its options, click on Events, and the on the 'Tab Features' tab. Once there, check the box alongside
Ctrl-Tab navigates in most recently used order.
Quote from: opus67 on June 24, 2008, 08:37:18 AM
Don't you mean Ctrl+tab (in Firefox)?
Oh yes, serves me right for guessing it from memory :P
Quote from: opus67 on June 24, 2008, 08:37:18 AM
Anyway, by default, Firefox switches tabs in the order that they were opened. If you have TMP installed and enabled, go to its options, click on Events, and the on the 'Tab Features' tab. Once there, check the box alongside Ctrl-Tab navigates in most recently used order.
Danke, I dislike addons, but it seems worth it in this case.
Quote from: Lethe on June 24, 2008, 08:41:03 AM
Danke, I dislike addons, but it seems worth it in this case.
TMP is just wonderful. It's my desert island add-on, if you will. 0:) I don't think it has any features that are useless/showy/memory-hogging.
Loading up on themes and extensions may slow your browser a little bit. I don't think it's a major difference, though. I tested my FF 3 with and without themes/extensions (I use a whole bunch). I'm pretty sure memory usage has been improved, but I don't have numbers.
With: 278 ms
Without: 195 ms
Quote from: drogulus on June 24, 2008, 05:05:08 PM
Loading up on themes and extensions may slow your browser a little bit. I don't think it's a major difference, though. I tested my FF 3 with and without themes/extensions (I use a whole bunch). I'm pretty sure memory usage has been improved, but I don't have numbers.
With: 278 ms
Without: 195 ms
Bear in mind that my PC sucks to high heaven 0:) But indeed, one addon won't be a problem.
Firefox 3.0 tops in this "test of memory (http://dotnetperls.com/Content/Browser-Memory.aspx)."
Quote from: Wurstwasser on June 23, 2008, 11:19:20 PM
Not sure about the default value, but you can turn it on this way: Put this into the adress field:
opera:config#Addressbar Content Search
Turn it on, save, restart opera. It's really powerful.
Thanks for the tip! 8) I've now read a description of this on various sites, so am really eager to get it into working order.
BTW, according to some of the forums I've skimmed through, if Opera 9.5 has any problems, it is only after upgrades, not after a clean install.
Ha! Apparently it was precisely the search within visited pages function that made my Opera run choppily. :o :-\ :'( I have now disabled it, and it is again running smoothly as ever. :-*
Milos, you should try doing the same! 8)
(Ctrl+F12 -> Advanced -> History, and untick the appropriate box - or use the shortcut provided by Wurstwasser above)
Quote from: Maciek on June 27, 2008, 03:26:52 AM
Ha! Apparently it was precisely the search within visited pages function that made my Opera run choppily. :o :-\ :'( I have now disabled it, and it is again running smoothly as ever. :-*
Milos, you should try doing the same! 8)
(Ctrl+F12 -> Advanced -> History, and untick the appropriate box - or use the shortcut provided by Wurstwasser above)
Clean install, as opposed to just an upgrade, seems to have solved the problem for me. Did it few days ago and it has been running smoothly since, no freeze-ups so far, we'll see.
Tab Mix Plus creator's website has been suspended. So, if you need the xpi file, you can get it here: http://www.the-frame.com/blog/2008/05/30/tab-mix-plus-for-firefox-3/
via rapidshare. When you download the file, tell windows to open it with firefox and it will auto install it.
Quote from: Maciek on June 27, 2008, 03:26:52 AMHa! Apparently it was precisely the search within visited pages function that made my Opera run choppily. :o :-\ :'( I have now disabled it, and it is again running smoothly as ever. :-*
Do you have very old computers? On mine it's running smoothly with the function turned on. Not a very fast computer here, it's an intel p4 3ghz.
Quote from: Wurstwasser on June 28, 2008, 05:29:16 AM
an intel p4 3ghz.
Same. But I certainly overdo multitasking... 0:)
Quote from: Maciek on June 28, 2008, 02:34:25 PMSame. But I certainly overdo multitasking... 0:)
But even on my Pentium III 800 Notebook Opera and its search function run fine.
Well, maybe it has something to do with upgrade vs. clean install. As I said, I've been using Opera since around v.4-5, and haven't had a clean install since that time (though I seem to remember that in the earlier versions uninstalling was part of the upgrade process?). There may be a buildup of stuff in the settings, mail etc. folders that has accumulated over time, or maybe those old files aren't exactly compatible with the new version (I'm also using my own skin, my own keyboard shortcuts etc. etc. etc.). AFAIK, tons of people are experiencing very bad performance from Opera after upgrading to 9.5, and many have even decided to downgrade - check the Opera forums.
Quote from: Maciek on June 30, 2008, 12:43:18 AM
AFAIK, tons of people are experiencing very bad performance from Opera after upgrading to 9.5, and many have even decided to downgrade - check the Opera forums.
As I said, I won't upgrade until 9.5 is as good as the 9.27 I am using at the moment. Have you downgraded, Maciek?
Well, I have a tab with instructions on downgrading open and waiting, but haven't made up my mind yet. 0:) Everything seems to be working much more smoothly after turning off the new search function. There are still moments when Opera seems to freeze for a short moment (1-2 seconds), but it is a much rarer occurence now.
Quote from: Drasko on June 27, 2008, 04:52:13 AM
Clean install, as opposed to just an upgrade, seems to have solved the problem for me. Did it few days ago and it has been running smoothly since, no freeze-ups so far, we'll see.
I spoke prematurely, it freezes again, major time. Basically everything these people are talking about:
http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=237604 (http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=237604)
Don't intend to waste any more time on a stupid thing as a browser so no more installs re-installs, tweaks, or whatever. I'm switching fulltime to firefox till opera completely resolve this.
Quote from: George on June 24, 2008, 03:23:16 AM
Anyone having trouble scrolling with the up and down keyboard keys? On the old Firefox, I could just scroll up or down using the keys and now this function doesn't always work and I have to use the scroll bar instead.
Not sure, but have you tried clicking a part of the web page that is clean? I.E. where you can't click to another page. I've done that and the up/down keys worked fine.
Quote from: jfmac on July 02, 2008, 06:02:37 PM
Not sure, but have you tried clicking a part of the web page that is clean? I.E. where you can't click to another page. I've done that and the up/down keys worked fine.
Yeah, that's what I usually do, but sometimes that doesn't even work. I'm guessing it's a bug with the new Firefox.
BTW, anyone know where you can download the old version of Firefox? I think I want to go back to it.
Quote from: Drasko on June 30, 2008, 04:14:13 AMDon't intend to waste any more time on a stupid thing as a browser so no more installs re-installs, tweaks, or whatever. I'm switching fulltime to firefox till opera completely resolve this.
Hasn't been adressed even in the latest weekly build. Yes, if I have multiple downloads, Opera becomes unresponsive sometimes.
Quote from: George on July 02, 2008, 06:06:29 PM
BTW, anyone know where you can download the old version of Firefox? I think I want to go back to it.
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
Just as I went to the page, I received an alert from Slashdot: Firefox Breaks 8 million, Gets into Guinness (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord)
Firefox kept freezing up on me so I'm back to Safari (at home). I'm sure that soon I will be reminded of why I stopped using Safari in the first place. ::)
Quote from: opus67 on July 03, 2008, 06:26:25 AM
http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html
I tired that link yesterday. When I downloaded it, it turned out to be Firefox 3.0. :-\
Do I have to have 3.0 uninstalled first?
BTW, the Opera performance problems should have been fixed with todays 9.51 release, I think it was this:
QuoteFixed a resource leak in the transfer window that could cause visual paint problems and other related problems.
Possibly the most useless firefox add-on in existence ;D
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1938
You can run both FF 2 and 3 if you use different profiles for each. If FF3 is freezing create a new profile using the Profile Manager. Then you can right click on the shortcut of the new one and add in the target line:
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" -P NewProfile -no-remote where NewProfile is the profile name (no spaces allowed).
Then open up the Profile Manager for your old FF and specify the old profile. Now FF 3 won't freeze and you can set it up how you like, either the same as the old one or different. They can run at the same time, so you won't have the problem of clicking on one and having the other one come up. :)
Quote from: orbital on July 07, 2008, 01:45:40 PM
Possibly the most useless firefox add-on in existence ;D
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1938
I hear the Neanderthals love it. ::)
4 stars!!! Maybe those people want to surf in the IE 6 way but with a lot more security.
You probably already know about this if you are Firefox+YouTube fanboy/girl, but in case you didn't check out Video Download Helper (http://www.downloadhelper.net/conversion-manual.php)
For the past two versions, this extension lets you convert the flv file to some other video format.
any of you chaps having problems with videos? I'm using Firefox's latest version and what's happening is that after a few videos the screen freezes and then no longer plays them (any videos from any website). The browser continues to work fine but it's not possible to view videos again until clearing cookies. No problem with IE however. I upgraded to the latest Java hoping it might solve it but no luck. Not sure if this is a new problem since the addition of the Tabs extension...
I don't face any such problems, and I've been using TMP for a long time.
Quote from: ezodisy on July 17, 2008, 02:53:44 AMany of you chaps having problems with videos? I'm using Firefox's latest version and what's happening is that after a few videos the screen freezes and then no longer plays them (any videos from any website). The browser continues to work fine but it's not possible to view videos again until clearing cookies. No problem with IE however. I upgraded to the latest Java hoping it might solve it but no luck. Not sure if this is a new problem since the addition of the Tabs extension...
Erm, most videos are adobe flash or media player plugin based. Don't know what your problem is, but better update those.
Wurstwasser, thanks but after updating from 3.0 to 3.0.1 of Firefox the problem has gone away. I had to reinstall TMP though everything seems fine once again. Cheers
I was still having problems with videos not playing and strange movement with tabs so I decided to do a clean install. It appears to have worked. In addition I wasn't aware that my popup blocker was no longer working. All back in order now at least. Clean install seems to be the main solution for these types of problems.
Quote from: Wurstwasser on July 18, 2008, 08:46:42 AM
or media player plugin based.
I should have looked into this immediately instead of upgrading then clean installing. Adding the MP plugin--which for some reason didn't appear to be installed--seems to have finally solved it :)
for the love of god it's stopped working again!!!!!
Do you have automatic updates turned on? If you do some extensions or plugins might be broken by the newest version. It might be better to turn off the automatic feature and use "Ask me what to do" instead.
(http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/3653/clipboard01wc3.jpg)
Quote from: drogulus on July 30, 2008, 11:57:13 AMDo you have automatic updates turned on? If you do some extensions or plugins might be broken by the newest version. It might be better to turn off the automatic feature and use "Ask me what to do" instead.
To check if the trouble is caused by an extension, open Firefox in safe mode (http://kb.mozillazine.org/Safe_Mode) and see if you face the same problem.
Thanks for the suggestions. I used safe mode and the videos worked, so I tried to disable some add-ons that didn't appear essential but it hasn't helped. The only extension I use is the tab mix one. It's a bloody nuisance. If I use videos first thing after opening the browser, everythign appears okay. Then I log into a website which activates Java, and at some point later in the day videos stop working (they start, then stop and get jammed soon after). This happens to all videos, except ones on the BBC which run but without sound. Only way to correct it is to clear all data and restart Firefox. This is why I thought that updating Java would help as I use a website that I have to keep open which runs Java, and it is only after this website becomes active that videos stop working. Anyway I'm not sure what to do from here. Already clean installed and it didn't help.
ezodisy, does installing the latest dev-build of TMP (http://tmp.garyr.net/tab_mix_plus-dev-build.xpi) help? (assuming that it is the extension that is causing the problem.)
Thanks opus, I've upgraded and will see how I get on. I've also disabled another add-on, "Windows Media Player Plug-in dynamic link library", which was installed before I recently added "Microsoft windows media player firefox plug-in". I don't think I need both, so I've disabled the earlier one which was there when the problems started.
I just downloaded the new Google browser, called Chrome. It's the fastest I've ever used. You can get the Beta here. (http://www.google.com/chrome)
Quote from: drogulus on September 03, 2008, 04:26:29 PM
I just downloaded the new Google browser, called Chrome. It's the fastest I've ever used. You can get the Beta here.
(http://www.google.com/chrome)
Yep, short articles this AM in both my local paper & in
USA Today w/ positive comments - certainly will be a strong consideration, esp. if the browser is fast & more secure - but, I'll wait until a non-beta version is released before 'pulling the trigger' - :D
No, you must use the Beta! $:)
Hmmm...the preview box is borked. See, would you really want to miss out on things like that? ;D
You can download the latest build here: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/
Just unzip the zip file and start.
It does not offer many functions like Opera for me. But good there's some movement in the broser market. IE8b2 is pretty good as well. Really, I was surprised, you should try it.
Quote from: SonicMan on September 03, 2008, 04:38:33 PM
I'll wait until a non-beta version is released before 'pulling the trigger' - :D
You might have to wait a while, Google Mail was launched in 2004 and is still in beta!
Quote from: drogulus on September 03, 2008, 04:51:05 PM
Hmmm...the preview box is borked.
Figures, it's broken in Safari too. Probably some bug in the forum software that only affects WebKit.
I signed up for their mailing list. No version for Linux yet. :(
Quote from: rickardg on September 03, 2008, 11:59:09 PM
Figures, it's broken in Safari too. Probably some bug in the forum software that only affects WebKit.
Yes, it's the same problem. Posting works, though.
Quote from: Wurstwasser on September 03, 2008, 09:57:51 PM
You can download the latest build here: http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/
Just unzip the zip file and start.
It does not offer many functions like Opera for me. But good there's some movement in the broser market. IE8b2 is pretty good as well. Really, I was surprised, you should try it.
I uninstalled Chrome and installed Chromium (latest build). So far this is a pretty bare bones piece of software. I'll keep track of the updates and see how it develops. It's funny, you can't embed images in Gmail with this browser. I have to use FF 2 for that.
Any thoughts on the Roboform add-on?
Quote from: ezodisy on September 07, 2008, 11:53:28 PM
Any thoughts on the Roboform add-on?
Well it works - what else did you need to know?
Quote from: Great Gable on September 09, 2008, 11:55:12 AM
Well it works - what else did you need to know?
I don't know, something like "I couldn't browse the internet without it", something like that.
Quote from: ezodisy on September 09, 2008, 11:54:27 PM
I don't know, something like "I couldn't browse the internet without it", something like that.
As much as I'd like to oblige...
Let's just say that before I got the plugin I could only use Firefox's password saver. That meant I had to look up all passwords within Roboform each time I accessed a site for the first time with FF. With the add-on I could enter the password with Roboform and then FF would ask if I wanted to save also, which I did. The nett result is that I am using FF's password saver more and more than Roboform's now.
I'd suggest either Google Chrome (http://www.google.com/chrome) or Apple Safari (http://www.apple.com/safari/)
Well, you could also use Opera, it's called "wand" there. The encrypted file which holds the password is wand.dat. You can also set a master password there.
Question: you know when you have a lot of windows open at the bottom on the menu bar and you open one more and they suddenly collect into a single panel which you then have to click to see all the rest....Is there a way to stop that so that they don't move into a single panel? It is getting annoying
Quote from: ezodisy on November 18, 2008, 08:01:34 AM
Question: you know when you have a lot of windows open at the bottom on the menu bar and you open one more and they suddenly collect into a single panel which you then have to click to see all the rest....Is there a way to stop that so that they don't move into a single panel? It is getting annoying
If you are talking about in Windows XP, it's easy as can be. Right click your taskbar, choose properties, then uncheck the box that says "group similar icons". If you are talking Firefox, well, I have never seen that behaviour, so I haven't a clue :-\
8)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on November 18, 2008, 08:56:32 AM
If you are talking about in Windows XP, it's easy as can be. Right click your taskbar, choose properties, then uncheck the box that says "group similar icons". If you are talking Firefox, well, I have never seen that behaviour, so I haven't a clue :-\
8)
excellent :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
I still use I.E., and I think it's better than FireFox. I don't think they will interfere with one another. :P I've been using I.E. for a long time. I've downloaded FireFox before into my computer, but I don't like it, so I uninstalled it.
Quote from: jchen on January 05, 2009, 04:17:43 AM
[I.E. is] better than FireFox.
Quite true. Especially if you want malwares and phishers to have easy access to your computer. :P
I'm back to using only the Mozilla browsers (Seamonkey, FF2, FF3, FF3.2). I use a variety of them for practical reasons (not only that, of course). My Yahoo mail bookmarks go to my mail page. Since someone else also uses Yahoo mail, a separate browser has a bookmark for her mail. If you did this on one browser you'd have to sign out/in every time. Also some functions are absent/intermittent with the FF3's so I keep FF2. Embedding images in Gmail can only be done with FF2, or at least I can't make it work any other way.
IE is probably much better than it used to be. I really don't care for it, so I only use it through the IEView extension which I have installed on all my other browsers. If I run into one of those increasingly rare IE-only websites I just right-click the page and select "view in IE". That way I don't need an IE icon on my desktop to remind me of the injustice and cruelty of the world. :)
(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/980/xxxja4.th.jpg) (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xxxja4.jpg)
Quote from: drogulus on January 05, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
IE is probably much better than it used to be. I really don't care for it, so I only use it through the IEView extension which I have installed on all my other browsers. If I run into one of those increasingly rare IE-only websites I just right-click the page and select "view in IE". That way I don't need an IE icon on my desktop to remind me of the injustice and cruelty of the world. :)
I remember IE View, one of the earliest extensions I used. Of course, I left it a long time since I switched to Linux. But I rarely - close to never - run into a website which specifically requires IE. If such a situation does occur, I open Opera, which has this "UI switch" feature built into it.
Does anyone else think Mozilla Firefox sounds like a drag performer?? 8) >:D
Seriously, I use Firefox about 99% of the time, IE only when a site seems not to be configured to work well with Firefox... and that is increasingly rare.
I downloaded a big Microsoft .NET update. It's taking way too much space on my computer. Can I delete this or is it an integral part of Windows XP? No idea what it's for. Thanks
Quote from: ezodisy on February 16, 2009, 06:45:57 AM
I downloaded a big Microsoft .NET update. It's taking way too much space on my computer. Can I delete this or is it an integral part of Windows XP? No idea what it's for. Thanks
Unless you downloaded it with a purpose in mind, which doesn't seem to be the case, I don't think you need it.
http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09%2F02%2F01%2F2143218
thanks for that. I disabled the add-on as soon as Firefox notified me. I'm just going to uninstall all these service packs which consume about 500mb or more. Not sure what the hell it is but it's going (hopefully computer still works afterwards :) )
Quote from: ezodisy on February 16, 2009, 07:04:27 AM
thanks for that. I disabled the add-on as soon as Firefox notified me. I'm just going to uninstall all these service packs which consume about 500mb or more. Not sure what the hell it is but it's going (hopefully computer still works afterwards :) )
You are welcome, ezodisy, but why do you want to uninstall the service packs (I'm assuming these are the XP ones you are talking about)? Those may contain important updates and patches for the OS. Maybe someone with an updated XP system can help you with that. :)
Quote from: ezodisy on February 16, 2009, 06:45:57 AM
I downloaded a big Microsoft .NET update. It's taking way too much space on my computer. Can I delete this or is it an integral part of Windows XP? No idea what it's for. Thanks
Microsoft's NET. Framework is a collection of coded programs that cover a broad range of applications and simplifies writing program code for developers - I don't fully understand its need unless you are running software that requires the presence of this platform (and appears that the need will likely increase in the future) - currently I'm running a 'free' imaging editing program on my home desktop w/ XP called Paint.NET (http://www.getpaint.net/), which requires NET. Framework - however, I've not really done much w/ this software (and probably should give it a try!) - :D
XP Service Packs contain bug fixes and security enhancements. You don't really want to remove those.
The .NET framework is a programming library that other programs (mostly newer programs) use. In the future, if not already, you will be needing it. IF a program needs it and it's not there you will get an error message and will probably have to re-download it again.
As far as IE vs. Firefox, I've been a longtime Firefox user but also have IE installed and stayed acquainted with it. Starting with IE8 (as I'm writing this), I give the edge to IE by a nose. The security issue is really not an issue any more and IE is VERY fast in IE8. Also, IE8 has "Browse secure", better known as "porn mode" that covers your tracks while browsing. The one edge that Firefox holds over IE (and it's a big one) is Add-On's. If you depend on the add-on's your best bet is Firefox. IE8 is pretty slick though. 8)
Thanks for the answers. I haven't removed any XP service packs (not intentionally anyway). I have removed all the M .NET packs though and have gotten back a lot of space. Strangely enough I don't see the option to delete M .NET itself.....I suppose I must have without realising it. Cheers
Hi ezodisy!
The way you would normally delete the .Net Framework would be to go to Control Panel. If you click the Start button and then Control Panel (in the right hand column), you'll see an applet called "Add/Remove Programs". If you click on that, after a moment or so, you'll see a list of programs on your computer. Scroll down and if it's there you will see Microsoft .NET Framework. (There could be more than one version). Here is where you would normally remove it.
As someone else mentioned, if you don't have any programs that need it, then it's just wasting hard drive space. At some point, though, if a program needs it and you get a rather strange error about .NET you'll know what it probably is talking about. :)
Quote from: BaxMan on February 16, 2009, 07:20:42 AM
The one edge that Firefox holds over IE (and it's a big one) is Add-On's. If you depend on the add-on's your best bet is Firefox. IE8 is pretty slick though. 8)
The other edge is that I can call Firefox "Ice Weasel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_conflict_between_Debian_and_Mozilla)," and no one's going to complain; but with IE, I can only complain and call it one lousy browser. ;D
;D ;)
Do most members here use FireFox instead of IE?
Quote from: Coopmv on February 16, 2009, 07:40:07 AM
Do most members here use FireFox instead of IE?
Sounds like an idea for a Diner poll! ;D
FWIW, I use Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009020911 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.6.
I also have Opera... just in case.
Quote from: BaxMan on February 16, 2009, 07:30:12 AM
Hi ezodisy!
The way you would normally delete the .Net Framework would be to go to Control Panel. If you click the Start button and then Control Panel (in the right hand column), you'll see an applet called "Add/Remove Programs". If you click on that, after a moment or so, you'll see a list of programs on your computer. Scroll down and if it's there you will see Microsoft .NET Framework. (There could be more than one version). Here is where you would normally remove it.
As someone else mentioned, if you don't have any programs that need it, then it's just wasting hard drive space. At some point, though, if a program needs it and you get a rather strange error about .NET you'll know what it probably is talking about. :)
Thanks for the detail Baxman. I don't know much about computers but I do know how to delete things. Within 2 weeks of my very first school computer class in 1993--back when these things were completely new to us--I got kicked out of the programme for wiping out the lab's entire system. It was a pretty big school too, one of the best in Vancouver. I really miss those days of mischief :'(
Quote from: Coopmv on February 16, 2009, 07:40:07 AM
Do most members here use FireFox instead of IE?
Well, I've not done a search in this (or the older) forum, but we may have a tread or so already on this topic? :D
For myself, I use both - now on my Ubuntu laptop, so Firefox; on my XP & VISTA computers, I have both IE & Firefox loaded; I use to use Opera a while ago; and going 'way back' to the beginnings of the WWW, the venerable Netscape! (boy, those early web days were painful!) :)
Quote from: opus67 on February 16, 2009, 07:46:52 AM
FWIW, I use Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009020911 Ubuntu/8.10 (intrepid) Firefox/3.0.6.
You don't really think anyone knows what all that crap means, do you?
:D
Quote from: Coopmv on February 16, 2009, 07:40:07 AM
Do most members here use FireFox instead of IE?
I use both; more Internet Explorer than Firefox, though. I also used Safari for a little while, but the novelty has wore off (it's still installed but seldom used).
Quote from: drogulus on February 17, 2009, 12:58:58 PM
You don't really think anyone knows what all that crap means, do you? :D
I don't expect everyone to understand what all that means, but as long as they can read the word Firefox, I think it gets the job done. The rest of it is for anyone who wishes to know more.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/30cupnp.jpg)
(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3451/operanr6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
0:)
;D ;D ;D 0:)
I am now running FireFox version 2.0.0.20. Is there any reason not to upgrade to the latest version offered by Mozilla? I keep getting that popup urging for my upgrade but so far has been clicking NO.
Quote from: Coopmv on February 21, 2009, 05:14:16 AM
I am now running FireFox version 2.0.0.20. Is there any reason not to upgrade to the latest version offered by Mozilla? I keep getting that popup urging for my upgrade but so far has been clicking NO.
No, none that I can see. Firefox 3 has been around long enough for it to be considered stable and safe for everyone. In fact, sooner or later, 3.1 will be coming along.
You could do 2.0.0.21 or you could just skip it and go to FF 3. Is there any reason you want to stick with 2? FF 3 is much faster in the javascript tests:
FF 2.0.0.21pre: 712ms
FF 3.0.6: 335ms
FF 3.2.a1pre: 49ms
The tests were conducted today.
Quote from: drogulus on February 21, 2009, 05:39:14 AM
You could do 2.0.0.21 or you could just skip it and go to FF 3. Is there any reason you want to stick with 2? FF 3 is much faster in the javascript tests:
FF 2: 712ms
FF 3.0.6: 335ms
FF 3.2.a1pre: 49ms
The tests were conducted today.
Not really. I just started to use FF more recently even though it has been downloaded to my computer a while back. The loading of a lot of pictures simultaneously can be a bit slow. So there is really no stability issue with FF version 3.0?
Quote from: Coopmv on February 21, 2009, 05:44:34 AM
Not really. I just started to use FF more recently even though it has been downloaded to my computer a while back. The loading of a lot of pictures simultaneously can be a bit slow. So there is really no stability issue with FF version 3.0?
I think it's pretty solid. I have occasional glitches with the newest version but even that is fine most of the time. The 3.2a1pre is now my default and the 3.0.6 my main backup, though I hardly ever need it. I'd get the 3.0.6.
Quote from: Lethe on February 19, 2009, 06:47:52 PM
(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3451/operanr6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
0:)
Ummm, I...uh....don't you think this is .........never mind.
>:D
Quote from: drogulus on February 21, 2009, 08:06:55 AM
Ummm, I...uh....don't you think this is .........never mind. >:D
I just giggle that anybody could consider Opera that superior to anything, let alone make a manip of it - it's like the Linux of browsers :D
I'm convinced Opera is great, maybe the greatest, since it has a wand and other things I don't know about. OTOH, FF is ridiculously easy to use since they don't deviate much from the basic Mosaic design IE stole from Netscape way back when.
Sure, you can make it look different with themes, and take the names off the buttons to make it confusing and technical like I do. :) It's still the same dumb old browser, and it still works really well.
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/6736/88177837.jpg)
0:)
I like Flock
I use IE only at work because other browsers are not allowed. At home I use Opera. FF is used for some few pages that don't quite work with opera (e.g. www.bof.fi, "Bank of Finland" where I check the currency rates before buying online).
Be wary of yet another add-on apparently making its way into Firefox without the user's permission. This time thanks to Sun.
http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/21/1955220
I downloaded Firefox way back when IE had no tabs, so using FF was a no-brainer. Now that's not an issue, but I have gotten so used to the FireGestures add-on (lets you navigate using mouse motions) that navigating the 'old way' with IE feels clumsy. Whenever I use IE for a page that doesn't run properly on FF, I find myself doing the gestures to no avail :/
Quote from: drogulus on February 17, 2009, 12:58:58 PM
You don't really think anyone knows what all that crap means, do you? :D
Thank you.
Quote from: tanuki on February 22, 2009, 03:45:45 AM
I use IE for a page that doesn't run properly on FF
Why? ???
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
Quote from: nicht schleppend on February 22, 2009, 04:13:24 AM
Thank you.
No, thank
you.
0:) Does this mean I have to change my sig?
:(
Quote from: opus67 on February 22, 2009, 06:31:52 AM
Why? ???
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1419
Is
that even allowed?
Quote from: Joe_Campbell on February 22, 2009, 11:57:07 AM
Is that even allowed?
That's a good question. Can you imagine a FF tab on IE?
Quote from: drogulus on February 22, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
That's a good question. Can you imagine a FF tab on IE?
It is interesting the implications such a tab would have on IE - i.e. (hah) that MS somehow "failed" to make users forget about FF. However, the opposite (the IE tab in FF) is viewed as nothing more than a convenient extension for the occasional boo boo in FF's html interpretation. Users of underdog programming are so compassionate! 0:)
(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/744/clipboard01omf.jpg)
I'm currently using XP and Firefox as my main machine but I'm getting a new machine ready for my main use. It's a Vista (and IE) machine. It's a long story but I've had the computer for a year and just now being able to use it. After much reading, I've decided I'm going to stay with Vista as long as possible (not jump to Windows 7 when it comes out) because this machine has plenty of resources and runs fine. My only regret is that with 4 gigs of RAM it's only using 3 of that 4 in this 32-bit version I'm using.
Essentially, I'm turning off transparency, closing the desktop bar and using it as much like XP as possible. If I didn't have that machine, I'd probably wait until Windows 7 comes out to get one. From everything I've read the performance is better than Vista.
At any rate that was the long way to go about saying that I'm moving to IE 8 now. I really don't use the add-on's, and IE 8 (beta 1) on my XP machine feels faster than Firefox.
Windows 7 looks like a distinct improvement. I downloaded 2 versions (7022 and 7048), but I can't install either one until my new graphics card gets here. The beta graphics driver doesn't work for Radeon 1xxx series cards, only 2xxxx and later.
I understand that IE is better now. The reason I don't use it is I've forgotten how, or I never learned. My first computer had Netscape 4.something on it and that set the course for me and I've never really used anything other than Netscape/Mozilla ever since.
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/743/clipboard01zgw.jpg)
HELP!!!!!!
Could someone that uses IE tell me how you copy the image address when you want to past an album cover in the forum?
Example: I want to paste an album cover from Amazon and post the picture on the forum. How do I copy the address of that picture to the clipboard??
(In Firefox, you right click on the album cover and select 'Copy Link Location'.)
Thanks....
Or right-click->Properties and copy the address.
Thanks, opus67, that's it!! Thanks for that idea too George!! 8)
Quote from: Mozart on November 08, 2007, 07:05:48 PM
What he said ^^. Firefox is a lot better, and you must be the last human still using IE :P
Not quite the last human using IE ;D
Especially not since IE8 has come out!!! :D
Quote from: opus67 on March 23, 2009, 03:27:34 AM
Or right-click->Properties and copy the address.
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/743/clipboard01zgw.jpg)
It works on IE7.
I've been a pretty steady FF user for 2-3 years, but IE 8 does work awfully fast it seems to me. I'm running a Toshiba laptop with Vista. No problems so far (knock on wood).
Quote from: jfmac on April 05, 2009, 06:56:20 PM
I've been a pretty steady FF user for 2-3 years, but IE 8 does work awfully fast it seems to me. I'm running a Toshiba laptop with Vista. No problems so far (knock on wood).
That's been my experience also. I've been using on Vista as my only browser and it's been a real workhorse for me.
BTW, I heard last night on twitter from one of the Microsoft people that Windows 7 is going to RTM (Release to Manufacturer) in September, 2009. I think some people will be getting it for Christmas. Not me though, because I'm very happy with Vista. I think people had a right to be dissatisfied two years ago but now it's much better than XP assuming you have the right hardware.
I would prefer Windows 7 to Vista, which is still slower than XP due to bloat. Start up and shut down are pretty bad, though since the service pack and disabling UAC I haven't really had much difficulty overall. Windows 7 will probably be as fast as XP, but it looks like I won't be installing the beta. It would require wiping out Vista, which I can't do for the sake of a beta that will expire, or partitioning my HD, which only would give me about 5 GB on the Windows 7 partition. I'd really have to get a new internal HD. I think I'll just wait to get the official upgrade when it becomes available. Maybe then I'll see what IE8 can do.
Quote from: drogulus on April 07, 2009, 02:27:25 PM
I would prefer Windows 7 to Vista, which is still slower than XP due to bloat. Start up and shut down are pretty bad, though since the service pack and disabling UAC I haven't really had much difficulty overall. Windows 7 will probably be as fast as XP, but it looks like I won't be installing the beta. It would require wiping out Vista, which I can't do for the sake of a beta that will expire, or partitioning my HD, which only would give me about 5 GB on the Windows 7 partition. I'd really have to get a new internal HD. I think I'll just wait to get the official upgrade when it becomes available. Maybe then I'll see what IE8 can do.
One thing that I have read, althought I haven't seen ANYONE talking about it, is that the "Ribbon" that is now in Office 2007 is supposed to be much more prominant in Windows 7. What that exactly means I don't know but I have read that.
Quote from: Lethe on February 19, 2009, 06:47:52 PM
(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3451/operanr6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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YES!
See, even the Operasaurus finds IE disgusting and keeps it a distance.
I love Opera, but I begin to stop loving it. What really pisses me off about Opera is the everlasting problems with ebay (reported by my wife) and the non draggable Favorites inside the Favorites/Bookmarks menu. I don't like Opera's bookmark manager.
Quote from: Wurstwasser on April 14, 2009, 04:26:49 AM
...the everlasting problems with ebay (reported by my wife)
What problems? My eBay experiences have been smooth with Opera. 0:)
My wife, a non-techie who has never used anything BUT Firefox, has been using IE8 since I installed it. I ask her today which she likes better. She said "IE because it's faster".
Microsoft Update Quietly Installs Firefox Extension (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/05/microsoft_update_quietly_insta.html)
Let us help you make Firefox less secure.
The link says uninstalling can damage your FF. What about just disabling the extension?
I just uninstalled the extension. I'm not supposed to be able to do that, but maybe my bleeding edge FF 3.6a1pre has been configured to handle this.
(I know, this only an IE v Firefox thread.) Posting from Opera 10 Beta. Some new features. I've always used Opera only as a back-up browser (to Firefox), but now I'm going give it a try, proper.
A couple of new features that you immediately see: a permanent but optional bar at the top which shows the tab previews. (By permanent I mean that you do not need to hover the mouse pointer over the tabs to see a short preview), but it takes about 15-20% of the browser space. I'll need to check if I can adjust that.* And speed dial can now accomodate up to 25 websites... which was something I was looking forward to.
* Yes, we can.
I'm starting to like Google Chrome (http://www.google.com/chrome), what do you think?
But no, I'm a die-hard Safari (http://www.apple.com/safari/) lover.
Quote from: Papageno on June 03, 2009, 11:42:42 AM
I'm starting to like Google Chrome (http://www.google.com/chrome), what do you think?
Only the alpha version of Chromium, the open-source browser behind Google's Chrome, is available for Linux -- which is what I use -- and it is far from being perfect. In fact, there was a recent article I read where the lead developer complained about the various user interfaces available for Linux and the lack of a standard among the GUI.
I stick to Firefox most of the time because, even with a fast browser like Opera, you don't get the functionality that the add-ons NoScript and AdBlockPlus provide. (Someone correct me if I'm missing something.)
One trick I've been using is putting my FF on a flash drive along with a copy of my profile with add-ons, sign-ins, and passwords. I can go anywhere and pop this into a computer and everything I need is there. This requires a bit of setting up since the browser has to be pointed to this profile or it will create a new one. When you remove the drive a small file is left behind where profile info is kept, which you can delete and leave no trace behind.
Quote from: drogulus on June 03, 2009, 02:40:53 PM
One trick I've been using is putting my FF on a flash drive along with a copy of my profile with add-ons, sign-ins, and passwords. I can go anywhere and pop this into a computer and everything I need is there. This requires a bit of setting up since the browser has to be pointed to this profile or it will create a new one. When you remove the drive a small file is left behind where profile info is kept, which you can delete and leave no trace behind.
If you do all that "by hand," you should try FEBE (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2109) (and CLEO (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2942), and OPIE (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6152)). FEBE, especially, is godsend.
Quote from: opus67 on June 03, 2009, 11:22:34 PM
If you do all that "by hand," you should try FEBE (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2109) (and CLEO (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2942), and OPIE (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6152)). FEBE, especially, is godsend.
I looked at those extensions and it seemed like more rather than less work. I only have a few extensions so I don't need another one to manage them, and the profile I use has all my logins and passwords. All I had to do was copy a profile with everything in it to a folder on the drive and then create a shortcut to Minefield (my FF) with this added: " -P profilename -no-remote" (without quotes). This keeps the browser connected to its own portable profile and not to any profile that may be on the host PC.
Quote from: Mozart on November 08, 2007, 07:05:48 PM
What he said ^^. Firefox is a lot better, and you must be the last human still using IE :P
false. I am using IE8. I tried Firefox, it sucked
I'm using an extension called Screengrab, which does what it says. I grabbed this one using Irfanview so I could show the little icon with the grab options.
(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/5193/clipboard01lzn.jpg)
Firefox used to be number one, by i'm not sure anymore. The memory problems are getting annoying, and it seems the browser is a lot slower then it used to be. I don't use any extension except for adblock.
Is it my imagination, or has Firefox turned to shit. Until I opened GMG I had one Firefox window with the ultra-simple Google search page, and it was occupying 80 Mb of memory? Can even IE be worse? I think I thinking of switching to Chrome.
When Firefox 4.0 came out in final release it seemed terrible. I switched to Chrome and that great but then I had some compatible issues and so I downloaded Firefox (4.01 by this time). Now it seems fine. I don't know if it was my machine or they fixed something. :o
I use IE, and just in the last month or two have had some memory problems, pages bloating and becoming unusable, so I have to go into Task Manager and shut the windows down. Of course, I usually browse with images and Active X controls and plugins (i.e. Flash) turned off, so this problem may be older and I just haven't noticed it.
What I'd really like is to be able to place buttons for the options I frequently turn off and on (as above) in the command bar.
I've always found IE perversely organized. They were better off back in the days when they copied the Netscape layout. Most browsers are still close to the Mozilla standard. Here's FF 7.0a1:
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4790/clipboard02lsc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/clipboard02lsc.jpg/)
Quote from: drogulus on May 26, 2011, 12:57:16 PM
I've always found IE perversely organized. They were better off back in the days when they copied the Netscape layout. Most browsers are still close to the Mozilla standard. Here's FF 7.0a1:
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/4790/clipboard02lsc.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/clipboard02lsc.jpg/)
Did they decide to get rid of the orange Firefox button up at the top left? I kind of like that. It takes up less space than a row of buttons.
Quote from: haydnguy on May 26, 2011, 04:16:06 PM
Did they decide to get rid of the orange Firefox button up at the top left? I kind of like that. It takes up less space than a row of buttons.
It's still there if you look closely just replaced with a planet. Looks more like seamonkey than firefox.
Do you mean the menu button? It's still there. I use the menu bar instead.
Nightly 7.0a1:
(http://img860.imageshack.us/img860/2383/clipboard01io.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/860/clipboard01io.jpg/)
Aurora 5.0a2:
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/8937/clipboard01no.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/534/clipboard01no.jpg/)
So does the nightly build not have the FF branding?
It used to be called Minefield. They change names as they branch. Aurora is the branch to the next major release, Nightly is the trunk.
Quote from: mozartfan on May 26, 2011, 04:21:22 PM
It's still there if you look closely just replaced with a planet. Looks more like seamonkey than firefox.
I kind of miss the old Netscape gif where the sun was orbiting the moon thing! 8)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/Netscape_throbber_2.gif)
(http://www.marketingshift.com/resources/netscape-logo.gif)
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsPASryXepa45QxL5g0FVAizn0WOFBX4P6VoeXcXmO2Bv5_5Jb)
(http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/smiley.gif)
Quote from: haydnguy on May 26, 2011, 04:16:06 PM
Did they decide to get rid of the orange Firefox button up at the top left? I kind of like that. It takes up less space than a row of buttons.
It's the new icon for their nightly builds.
(http://static.arstechnica.net/assets/2011/04/ff-nightly-aurora-beta-thumb-640xauto-21055.jpg)
Quote from: Leon on May 27, 2011, 06:27:37 AM
Since yesterday, my iGoogle does not display in Firefox but does in IE. Not that it's any big deal, just curious if something was changed or if anyone else is experiencing the same thing.
I have a Yahoo start page, but I'm signed into Google the whole time I'm online. If I go to iGoogle it has an unfinished page waiting for me to set it up. I don't think I'll bother since the Yahoo page serves my needs. I set it up 10 yrs. ago when I first went online and I've been tweaking it continuously to bring me mail, news, opinion, sports, weather, financial info and other things I want to look at first thing in the day. It's also the last thing I look at before I shut down.
Anyway, iGoogle displays normally on my FF alphas, so I don't know why it wouldn't on the released versions. What happens when you go to the page in FF?
My igoogle is fine on my FF. :-\
Leon, did you install NoScript or some other JavaScript-blocking extension in Firefox recently?
Quote from: Leon on May 28, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
I did install AdBlock and it recently updated itself. Do you think that could be the reason?
I don't think because I have adblock too, and it works for me. I would bet it had something to do with your google settings.
Quote from: Leon on May 28, 2011, 06:08:52 PM
I did install AdBlock and it recently updated itself. Do you think that could be the reason?
No, I find that possibility unlikely. I don't use iGoogle, though I did customise the page a few years ago, but when I visited it yesterday after reading your post, it appeared pretty much empty because NoScript was blocking gmodules.com, which shouldn't happen if the site has to function properly.
One way to check if the problem is caused by one or more extensions is to disable them all and then check whether the site works after a browser restart. After that you have to keep enabling them one by one, until you find the nuisance add-on. (I think Firefox 4 allows you to disable all add-ons at once. And another way to achieve the same effect would be to create a separate Firefox profile without add-ons.)
I must say I don't find too much difference anymore in the browsers. I re-installed Vista today and am using IE9 and find it just fine. On my machine I can't really tell much difference between IE9 and Chrome. If there IS a difference there isn't much. I DO think that FF has slipped a bit but even there it's a very good browser. 8)
Quote from: haydnguy on May 29, 2011, 01:00:48 AM
I must say I don't find too much difference anymore in the browsers. I re-installed Vista today and am using IE9 and find it just fine. On my machine I can't really tell much difference between IE9 and Chrome. If there IS a difference there isn't much. I DO think that FF has slipped a bit but even there it's a very good browser. 8)
What! Do you mean to say that you, as a user, are unable to notice the 220 ms difference in JS execution that reviewers speak about every quarter?
:D
Quote from: Leon on May 27, 2011, 01:35:17 PM
Hmmm, must be something local to my computer. But I can't imagine what since I have not made any changes.
What loads is the shell of the page but no modules of content, e.g. no boxes of Gmail, News, Weather, Sports, etc.
Everything is good in IE, correct?
Quote from: Leon on May 29, 2011, 09:54:52 AM
IE displays my iGoogle fine. It is not a huge problem, but just irksome.
IE works
on the same computer as your balky FF?
I call that problem solved! ;D
You could always just uninstall and reinstall FF.
1) You could try FF Safe Mode. If it works, say "aha!".
2) Open Profile Manager, create a new profile, add extensions/plugins one by one until you find the guilty party.
Or you could....
3) .....download the lastest stable version of FF from the Firefox page, and turn on updates in the advanced options tab.
I love my Yahoo page. (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/Smileys/classic/angel.gif) They keep trying to get me to move to a "new" version but I won't. What is it, 5 years now they've been doing this?
Quote from: Leon on May 29, 2011, 07:08:32 PM
I don't want to re-install/update FF because FF4 has problems with Blackboard/Wimba which I need for some online courses. I just went to Yahoo for my homepage - same kind of content and no glitches.
I've stopped using Blackboard and I didn't know that. Using an older version of FF could well have been the problem. Google might be only maintaining compatibility with the newest version... I'll leave that to Ernie to needlessly explore! :D