So after all the requests of families around the world, here it is.
Since i'm starting i will set the rules and the composers who will begin the competition.
Rules:
1- One vote a day (a 2+ and 2-).
2- Once a composer reaches 20 points he goes to the hall of fame, and another composer enters the competition.
3. Once a composer is eliminated, goes to Purgatory. and a new composer enters competition.
4. The last person to vote for the elimination or for the hall of fame is the one who enters the new composer.
5. 10 composers in competition in each "round"
6. Once 10 composers are in the purgatory, one round is made to save one soul, the rest go straight to hell!
Here goes the first 10 with 10 points each
Handel 10
Bach 10
Beethoven 10
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 10
Go!
Handel 10 - 1 = 9
Bach 10
Beethoven 10
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 10 + 1 = 11
Handel 9 - 1 = 8
Bach 10
Beethoven 10
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10 + 1 = 11
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 11
well this is off to a good start.
Ahah everybody loves Handel ;)
I haven't vote yet so...
Handel 8 - 1 = 7
Bach 10
Beethoven 10
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 11
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 11+1=12
Quote from: The Emperor on December 28, 2007, 09:06:48 AM
2- Once a composer reaches 30 points he goes to the hall of fame, and another composer enters the competition.
Does the new composer start with 10 points?
Quote from: orbital on December 28, 2007, 09:16:13 AM
Does the new composer start with 10 points?
Yes, once a new composer enters the game he starts with 10 points as well, it's the default.
Quote from: The Emperor on December 28, 2007, 09:14:56 AM
Ahah everybody loves Handel ;)
I haven't vote yet so...
Handel 8 - 1 = 7
Bach 10
Beethoven 10
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 11
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 11+1=12
Handel 7 -1 = 6
Bach 10
Beethoven 10 +1 = 11
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 11
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Handel 6
Bach 10
Beethoven 11
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10 + 1 = 11
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 11
Bartok 10 - 1 = 9
Shostakovich 12
Sorry I didn't vote against Handel :(
Quote from: Brian on December 28, 2007, 09:23:41 AM
Sorry I didn't vote against Handel :(
I'm sorrier you voted against
Bartók, a great tonal composer! :P
No Elgar.
No fun.
Ah, there you're wrong, mon vieux 8)
Quote from: D Minor on December 28, 2007, 09:28:17 AM
No Elgar.
No fun.
You can enter him later....so we can vote against him...it will be fun for sure ;D
Handel 6 - 1 = 5
Bach 10
Beethoven 11 + 1 = 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 11
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Handel will soon burn. >:D
Handel 5
Bach 10 + 1 = 11
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10 - 1 = 9
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 11
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Handel 5 - 1 = 4
Bach 11 + 1 = 12
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 11
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Quote from: karlhenning on December 28, 2007, 09:26:45 AM
I'm sorrier you voted against Bartók, a great tonal composer! :P
And to make matters worse, my mom has translated some Bartok family papers into Turkish (from English) at the request of (I think) Bela's grandson. The case involved securing a Turkish copyright for a piece whose title escapes me, though I remember it wasn't on ArkivMusic.
Poor Handel wrote mostly works that require an attention span of more than 10 minutes. One of my favorites.
Handel 5 + (going with the underdog ;D )
Bach 12
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10 -
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Handel 5
Bach 12
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 10 + 1 = 11
Stravinsky 10 - 1 = 9
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Handel 4 -
Bach 12
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10 +
Shostakovich 12
i'm assuming we're starting from scratch, and i'm allowed to vote again today.....
Handel 4
Bach 11 -
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12 +
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Yeh, it's basically a new game, no problemo :)
Quote from: erato on December 28, 2007, 10:36:39 AM
Poor Handel wrote mostly works that require an attention span of more than 10 minutes.
Oh, rest easy; my non-engagement with
Handel is no matter of any short attention-span.
Quote from: erato on December 28, 2007, 10:36:39 AM
Poor Handel wrote mostly works that require an attention span of more than 10 minutes. One of my favorites.
What about his 42 operas and 29 oratorios? :P
New day.
Handel 4-1=3
Bach 11
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12+1=13
Handel 3 + 1 = 4
Bach 11
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11 -1 =10
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Handel 3 -
Bach 11
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11 +
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
i countered erato's move! mwahaha
Quote from: erato on December 29, 2007, 06:42:02 AM
Handel 3 + 1 = 4
Bach 11
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11 -1 =10
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Handel 4 -1 = 3
Bach 11
Beethoven 12 +1 = 13
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
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Now playing:
December 22, 1808 - Zurich Tonhalle Orchestre / Zinman Bronfman - Bia 486 Op 80 Fantasy in c for Orchestra, Piano & Chorus "Choral Fantasy"
Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on December 29, 2007, 06:46:19 AM
i countered erato's move! mwahaha
Yeah, but seeing this is my first post since the start of the game I have two unused postings! Tremble!
Gurn, Handel has 2 now.
Quote from: erato on December 29, 2007, 06:51:31 AM
Yeah, but seeing this is my first post since the start of the game I have two unused postings! Tremble!
but isn't it just one post per day?
Yes, only one vote a day, there's no saving votes, didn't vote? too bad! ;)
Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on December 29, 2007, 06:52:12 AM
Gurn, Handel has 2 now.
but isn't it just one post per day?
Greg,
I posted at the same time as you did, so I didn't see yours. Perhaps Emperor will be so kind as to update it correctly...
8)
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Now playing:
February 27, 1814 - Hanover Band / Roy Goodman - Bia 544 Op 92 Symphony #7 in A 1st mvmt - Poco sostenuto - Vivace
Handel 2 - 1 = 1
Bach 11
Beethoven 13 + 1 = 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on December 29, 2007, 07:03:04 AM
Greg,
I posted at the same time as you did, so I didn't see yours. Perhaps Emperor will be so kind as to update it correctly...
I fixed it.
Yeh it's fine now, next one to vote agains Handel can enter a new composer ;D
Handel is doomed!
Handel 1-1=0
Bach 11+1=12
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Hey, buddy, you get to add a new composer now. $:)
My guess is that it will be Haydn. 8)
Bach 12
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 10 (added)
Quote from: George on December 29, 2007, 07:09:44 AM
Hey, buddy, you get to add a new composer now. $:)
My guess is that it will be Haydn. 8)
I let Gurn take care of him... ;D
If Handel was to go, then it was going to be on my terms. ;D ;D
Mmm Sibelius, i like him, i guess Mozart is my next target 8)
Quote from: The Emperor on December 28, 2007, 12:36:32 PM
Yeh, it's basically a new game, no problemo :)
You may want to start a thread that lists the hall of famers and the ones ousted and lock it each time you update it to prevent tampering. ;D
Quote from: Bogey on December 29, 2007, 07:11:50 AM
Bach 12
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 10 (added)
Looks like a fine collection to me. Add Proky, Debussy, Ravel, Rachy, and a few others and it will be just about right!
Bach 12 + 1 = 13
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 12 - 1 = 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 10
We can update it here from time to time, or we could have a sticky with a list of the hall of famers and the losers.
So far.
Hall of Fame - No one
Purgatory - Handel
;D
Quote from: longears on December 29, 2007, 07:22:22 AM
Looks like a fine collection to me. Add Proky, Debussy, Ravel, Rachy, and a few others and it will be just about right!
So you don't like Schubert? Or is he one of the unmentionable others?
Quote from: erato on December 29, 2007, 07:23:48 AM
So you don't like Schubert? Or is he one of the unmentionable others?
Schubie-doo's okay--and well-ensconced in the Austro-Germanic Hall of Fame--but there are easily a couple of dozen others whose works I reach for first, many of whom were also not mentioned (though hardly unmentionable).
Bach 13
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10 - 1 = 9
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 10 + 1 = 11
Bach 13 - 1 = 12
Beethoven 14
Mozart 9
Dvorak 9 + 1 = 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 11
Bach 12
Beethoven 14
Mozart 9
Dvorak 10 + 1 = 11
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13 - 1 = 12
Sibelius 11
I think we better change one rule, to reach the hall of fame should be 20 points, 30 points is a lot for 10 composers a round, there's too many to choose.
So it should go Losers(0) -> Default(10) -> Hall of Fame(20)
It's fine right?
Couldn't we have at least started off with composers not on the other list?
Quote from: The Emperor on December 29, 2007, 03:42:00 PM
I think we better change one rule, to reach the hall of fame should be 20 points, 30 points is a lot for 10 composers a round, there's too many to choose.
So it should go Losers(0) -> Default(10) -> Hall of Fame(20)
It's fine right?
Right! :)
Quote from: donwyn on December 29, 2007, 04:20:36 PM
Couldn't we have at least started off with composers not on the other list?
Those can enter later, just vote on those you don't like and eventually you'll have the chance to put yours in the game.
The goal here is to keep rotating, and of course, survival of the fittest!
Quote from: The Emperor on December 29, 2007, 05:33:27 PM
Those can enter later, just vote on those you don't like and eventually you'll have the chance to put yours in the game.
Okay.
Bach 12
Beethoven 14
Mozart 9
Dvorak 11 - 1 = 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10 + 1 = 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 12
Beethoven 14 - 1 = 13
Mozart 9
Dvorak 11
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 9 + 1 = 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 12
Beethoven 13-1=12
Mozart 9+1=10
Dvorak 11
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 11
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
I presume these will all stay roughly even for the next couple of years. Still, I wonder how we start with 10 composers with 10 points each (100 points total) and now have 10 composers averaging 11 points each (113 points).
And Stravinsky and Mozart are the laggards at 10 apiece . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on December 29, 2007, 07:37:42 PM
And Stravinsky and Mozart are the laggards at 10 apiece . . . .
Yes, but I would never consider either below average Karl. ;)
No, indeed, Bill!
Bach 12
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10 (-)
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12 (+)
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 12 + 1 = 13
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11 - 1 = 10
Bach 13
Beethoven 12
Mozart 11 (+) 0:)
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 9 (-) :P
Quote from: longears on December 29, 2007, 07:36:25 PM
I presume these will all stay roughly even for the next couple of years. Still, I wonder how we start with 10 composers with 10 points each (100 points total) and now have 10 composers averaging 11 points each (113 points).
LOl, i guess, in the other forum where i saw this game, it was only 5 composers per round, it should have been that way, more action...
Bach 13
Beethoven 12
Mozart 11 -1 =10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12+1 =13
Sibelius 9
Bach 13
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11 -1= 10
Mahler 12 +1 = 13
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 9
Bach 13
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10 - 1 = 9
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahlern 13
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 9 + 1 = 10
Quote from: btpaul674 on December 29, 2007, 08:39:01 PM
Mahlern 13
By adding the "n", he will go down in no time.
how the hell did that get there
Bach 13
Beethoven 13 +
Mozart 9
Dvorak 9 -
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 10
Bach 13 + 1 = 14
Beethoven 13
Mozart 9
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 10 - 1 = 9
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 10
Bartók over Sibelius? Fie on you!
Quote from: Corey on December 30, 2007, 05:41:27 AM
Bartók over Sibelius? Fie on you!
Although i like Sibelius, but it's kinda logic isn't it? :P
Bach 14
Beethoven 13
Mozart 9
Dvorak 9+1=10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 11-1=10
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 10
Bach 14
Beethoven 13
Mozart 9
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 9 -
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 11 +
Bach 15 +
Beethoven 13
Mozart 9
Dvorak 9 -
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 11
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 9
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 9 - 1 = 8
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 11 + 1 = 12
Bach 15
Beethoven 13 -
Mozart 9
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10 +
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 12
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 10 (+)
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 7 (-)
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 12
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12 -
Stravinsky 7
Bartok 11 +
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 12
Bach 15-1=14
Beethoven 13
Mozart 10
Dvorák 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 7+1=8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 13-1=12
Sibelius 12
(Much as I'd like to even things up more, I just can't bring myself to deduct points from Bach or Beethoven!)
The goal is not to even things out, its to get composers you like to the hall of fame, and eliminate those you don't like.
If we keep even things out, there's no fun.
I might have to change the rules ;D
Quote from: The Emperor on December 30, 2007, 12:13:31 PM
The goal is not to even things out, its to get composers you like to the hall of fame, and eliminate those you don't like.
If we keep even things out, there's no fun.
I might have to change the rules ;D
I like
all of these composers and think every one of them belongs in my personal hall of fame. They're already enshrined in history's hall of fame.
Yeh but this is the REAL hall of fame :P
in some ways, this game is more powerful than a poll since people can vote more than once for a composer (yet not infinitely not to spoil a game) 8)
Quote from: The Emperor on December 30, 2007, 12:13:31 PM
The goal is not to even things out,
I wasn't aware that purely mindless activities could have a specific "goal" .........
Mindlessness itself is goal enough.
Quote from: longears on December 30, 2007, 01:56:31 PM
Mindlessness itself is goal enough.
Exactly, you just push the button... ;D
Passed midnight so it's a new day for me ;D
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 10-1=9
Dvorák 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12+1=13
Sibelius 12
Quote from: The Emperor on December 30, 2007, 03:34:53 PM
Passed midnight so it's a new day for me ;D
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 10-1=9
Dvorák 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12+1=13
Sibelius 12
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 9+1=10
Dvorák 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 13
Sibelius 12 - 1 = 11
8)
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Now playing:
Academy of St M in the Fields / Marriner - Donizetti Quartet in D for Strings 1st mvmt
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 10 + 1 = 11
Dvorák 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 13 - 1 = 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 11
Dvorák 8 (-)
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13 (+)
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 11 - 1 = 10
Dvorák 8
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11 + 1 = 12
What with all the Handel haters on this forum?
Quote from: The Emperor on December 29, 2007, 07:23:42 AM
We can update it here from time to time, or we could have a sticky with a list of the hall of famers and the losers.
So far.
Hall of Fame - No one
Purgatory - Handel
;D
Repent for your sin or I'll send you there with him >:D
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 10 + 1 = 11
Dvorák 8
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 8-1=7
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 12
Bach 15
Beethoven 13
Mozart 11
Dvorák 8
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13-1=12
Stravinsky 7+1=8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 12
Bach 15
Beethoven 13 + 1 = 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 8 -1 = 7
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 12
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 7+1=8
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 11-1=10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 12
First vote of 2008...
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 7 (-)
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13 (+)
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 12
2008? Are you kidding me? :P
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 7
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 8 + 1 = 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 12 - 1 = 11
Bach 16 +
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 7
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12 -
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 15 -
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 8 +
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
last vote of 2007....
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 7 -
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13 +
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on December 31, 2007, 11:31:21 AM
last vote of 2007....
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 7 -
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13 +
Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
happy to cancel that out for you, Greg. :D
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorák 7 +1 = 8Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 13 -1 = 12Stravinsky 9
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
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Now playing:
Tchaikovsky - Borodin String Quartet - String Quartet #1 in D Op 11 1st mvmt - Moderato e semplice
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11+1=12
Dvorák 8
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 9-1=8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 15
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorák 8 + 1 = 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12 - 1 = 11
Sibelius 11
Bach 15 + 1 = 16
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8 - 1 = 7
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 9+1=10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 7
Bartok 10-1=9
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12-1=11
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 7
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 11+1=12
Sibelius 11
Bach 16 + 1 = 17
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 10 -1 = 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 7
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 17 + 1 = 18
Beethoven 14
Mozart 11
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 7 - 1 = 6
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
Bach 18
Beethoven 14 + 1 = 15
Mozart 11
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6 - 1 = 5
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11
What is this thing you have against Stravinsky, George? I'm shocked that you seem not to appreciate him? ("appreciate" used in the senses of like, understand, and be grateful for)
Quote from: longears on January 01, 2008, 07:56:49 AM
What is this thing you have against Stravinsky, George? I'm shocked that you seem not to appreciate him? ("appreciate" used in the senses of like, understand, and be grateful for)
I actually am very grateful for him and see him as more important than many other composers on that list. However, when it comes to enjoyment and to who I listen to more often, he doesn't do it for me as much as the others on this list.
The Rite of Spring alone should be enough to put him in the hall of fame, i'll have to start voting on Mr.S. ;D
Quote from: George on January 01, 2008, 07:59:08 AM
I actually am very grateful for him and see him as more important than many other composers on that list. However, when it comes to enjoyment and to who I listen to more often, he doesn't do it for me as much as the others on this list.
I have similar feelings about Stravinsky. The goal now is to get Stravinsky eliminated and replaced by Schumann.
Quote from: Don on January 01, 2008, 08:11:23 AM
I have similar feelings about Stravinsky. The goal now is to get Stravinsky eliminated and replaced by Schumann.
Your Goal Perhaps >:D
Quote from: The Emperor on January 01, 2008, 08:12:30 AM
Your Goal Perhaps >:D
Right, and success is just around the corner. 8)
Quote from: The Emperor on December 29, 2007, 07:08:30 AM
Yeh it's fine now, next one to vote agains Handel can enter a new composer ;D
Handel is doomed!
This is the stupidest most undemocratic poll I've ever seen in all my life. Multiple votes per person and all. And you wonder why I am so cynical about this place? But the fact that the usual suspects of GMG have saw fit to boot out Handel first must by default confirm that Handle is the greatest composer. Cheers lads!
Come on, it's democratic, the people spoke, Handel is out, deal with it ;)
Quote from: The Emperor on January 01, 2008, 08:23:32 AM
Come on, it's democratic, the people spoke, Handel is out, deal with it ;)
Heck you call this poll democratic? So you believe the old German Democratic Republic was a real democracy too I suppose... ::)
Why is it not democratic? Everyone has the same votes, the same rights, so what's the problem?
Just read the rules...
Quote from: The Emperor on January 01, 2008, 08:32:08 AM
Why is it not democratic? Everyone has the same votes, the same rights, so what's the problem?
Just read the rules...
I have already pointed out that people are allowed multiple votes, ie one per day, so that those regulars attending this thread are over represented. By the look of it its the same few voting again day after day. You may call that democratic, but please don't run for President...
Everyone votes once per day (a + and -), it's the same for everybody, don't see a problem there.
If more people don't join the game is not our fault, everyone is feel to vote.
Plus if you didn't notice, this a game, don't like it, don't play it, just chill out...
Bach 18
Beethoven 15
Mozart 11
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 5 + 1 = 6
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 11 - 1 = 10
Quote from: The Emperor on January 01, 2008, 08:44:32 AM
Everyone votes once per day (a + and -), it's the same for everybody, don't see a problem there.
If more people don't join the game is not our fault, everyone is feel to vote.
Plus if you didn't notice, this a game, don't like it, don't play it, just chill out...
I am chilled out, just seems a strange way to pass the time of day. I've just noticed this thread today, what if I wanted to vote for Handel? Too late! The result is meaningless really...
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 01, 2008, 08:49:54 AM
I am chilled out, just seems a strange way to pass the time of day. I've just noticed this thread today, what if I wanted to vote for Handel? Too late! The result is meaningless really...
You can help get rid of a composer, and then re-introduce Handel if that is allowed ;D
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 01, 2008, 08:49:54 AM
I am chilled out, just seems a strange way to pass the time of day. I've just noticed this thread today, what if I wanted to vote for Handel? Too late! The result is meaningless really...
You didn't vote for him, lost your chance...
If you miss a poll in real life you miss your chance also, not our fault. :P
And of course the result is meaningless, it's a game...
Quote from: The Emperor on January 01, 2008, 08:55:22 AM
You didn't vote for him, lost your chance...
If you miss a poll in real life you miss your chance also, not our fault. :P
And of course the result is meaningless, it's a game...
Well usually a poll is announced long in advance of the actual vote! I think it could have been even more fun, but don't worry though, play away boys.
Bach 19 (+)
Beethoven 15
Mozart 11
Dvorak 9 (-)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 10
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 01, 2008, 08:15:48 AM
And you wonder why I am so cynical about this place?
Actually, we wonder about that constantly ...........
Bach 19
Beethoven 15
Mozart 11
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6 - 1 = 5
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 10 + 1 = 11
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 01, 2008, 09:09:49 AM
I think it could have been even more fun..
This much I agree with. I am witing for someoe to create a version of this thread that will be more fun. Care to take a shot?
Quote from: George on January 01, 2008, 01:22:08 PM
This much I agree with. I am witing for someoe to create a version of this thread that will be more fun. Care to take a shot?
does this thread need flying poopy monkeys?
Bach 18 (-)
Beethoven 15
Mozart 11
Dvorak 10 (+)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 10
Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on January 01, 2008, 01:26:05 PM
does this thread need flying poopy monkeys?
I thought it was "poopy flying", not "flying poopy" ........
Quote from: D Minor on January 01, 2008, 01:28:46 PM
I thought it was "poopy flying", not "flying poopy" ........
good point. The "poopy flying" species are more deadly, they'll drop a log of poop on people that'll kill them instantly while they're walking around in the rain forest.
The "flying poopy" species fly around underwater, and while they also drop their poop, the speed will be much slower, resulting in rare chance of bodily injury.
Quote from: George on January 01, 2008, 01:22:08 PM
This much I agree with. I am witing for someoe to create a version of this thread that will be more fun. Care to take a shot?
Perhaps, if the options are there, there may be a poll where users are allowed to vote twice per day but will not see the results until the vote expires. That way the votes given solely to save (or bury) a composer may be avoided. We can see at the end of say 1 month who got the most and least votes. There will have to be 20 choices for 10 composers (1 for + and 1 for -). If this is not possible there may be two polls: one for positive votes and one for negative ones ::)
Bach 18
Beethoven 15
Mozart 11
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 12 - 1 = 11
Sibelius 10 + 1 = 11
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 01, 2008, 08:49:54 AM
I am chilled out, just seems a strange way to pass the time of day. I've just noticed this thread today, what if I wanted to vote for Handel? Too late!
That's a shame, but you've had the same voting opportunities as all other members. So start voting and stop whining.
Bach 17 -
Beethoven 15
Mozart 11
Dvorak 11 +
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Bach 17
Beethoven 15
Mozart 11-1=10
Dvorak 11
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6+1=7
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
I guess we gonna be here forever with this composers ;D
Quote from: The Emperor on January 01, 2008, 03:56:21 PM
I guess we gonna be here forever with this composers ;D
Nah, just bump the + and - to 2 or 3 instead of 1. I don't mean 2 or three separate votes, but just add or subtract two or three instead of one.
That way, we can speed things up. I recommend that you start at a predetermined time.
Quote from: George on January 01, 2008, 04:22:20 PM
Nah, just bump the + and - to 2 or 3 instead of 1. I don't mean 2 or three separate votes, but just add or subtract two or three instead of one.
That way, we can speed things up. I recommend that you start at a predetermined time.
I actually thought of that.
Let's all agree in a date where to begin.
2 points at the time seems good.
3rd of January, the new voting begins (2+ , 2-)
Is that fine with everybody?
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 01, 2008, 08:49:54 AM
I am chilled out, just seems a strange way to pass the time of day. I've just noticed this thread today, what if I wanted to vote for Handel? Too late! The result is meaningless really...
So you admit you are whining about nothing?
Quote from: The Emperor on January 01, 2008, 04:48:59 PM
I actually thought of that.
Let's all agree in a date where to begin.
2 points at the time seems good.
3rd of January, the new voting begins (2+ , 2-)
Is that fine with everybody?
Fine with me. I guess we will go by our respective times.
2nd of January, so still a ±1 vote.
Bach 17
Beethoven 15
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10 (-)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13 (+)
Stravinsky 7
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Bach 18 +
Beethoven 15
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 6 -
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Bach 19 +
Beethoven 15
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8 -
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Bach 19
Beethoven 16 +
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 7 -
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Quote from: Corey on January 01, 2008, 07:03:01 PM
So you admit you are whining about nothing?
Yes I admit this game is a nothing. But the concept has potential as entertainment, just it needed a bit more thought at the outset. People are going to get a bit tired of keeping this up in any case, only the Bach cultists will hang on for their inevitable victory.
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 02, 2008, 06:25:54 AM
Yes I admit this game is a nothing. But the concept has potential as entertainment, just it needed a bit more thought at the outset. People are going to get a bit tired of keeping this up in any case, only the Bach cultists will hang on for their inevitable victory.
Still waiting for your new thread, bro. Please post a link here to it, when you've got it up and running?
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 02, 2008, 06:25:54 AM
Yes I admit this game is a nothing. But the concept has potential as entertainment, just it needed a bit more thought at the outset. People are going to get a bit tired of keeping this up in any case, only the Bach cultists will hang on for their inevitable victory.
Just speak for yourself; I'm in this for the long haul.
Quote from: Don on January 02, 2008, 06:41:29 AM
Just speak for yourself; I'm in this for the long haul.
Yup. Once Bach is put into the Hall, then another falls, we can put Bach's name back on the list and elecet him again! ;D
Quote from: Bogey on January 02, 2008, 06:43:09 AM
Yup. Once Bach is put into the Hall, then another falls, we can put Bach's name back on the list and elecet him again! ;D
Well, I'll be satisfied with a Bach solo entry into the Hall of Fame. Once he's in, I'm setting my sights on Dvorak.
Quote from: Don on January 02, 2008, 06:46:12 AM
Well, I'll be satisfied with a Bach solo entry into the Hall of Fame. Once he's in, I'm setting my sights on Dvorak.
Would love to see him go in, but I am afraid that might be like Goose Gossage getting into the Cooperstown. That is, I believe it will turn into a long overdue ordeal.
Bach 19
Beethoven 16 + 1 = 17
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 6 - 1 = 5
Bartok 7
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Bach 19 + 1 = 20
Beethoven 17
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10 - 1 = 9
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 5
Bartok 7
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
orbital insert composer!
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH
PURGATORY - HANDEL
;D
Quote from: The Emperor on January 02, 2008, 07:09:52 AM
orbital insert composer!
(http://www.malaspina.edu/~mcneil/jpg/chopin.jpg)
Quote from: The Emperor on January 02, 2008, 07:09:52 AM
orbital insert composer!
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH
PURGATORY - HANDEL
;D
Oh I thought the number was 30. OK So, Mr Bach deservedly got inducted to the Hall of Fame 0:) 0:)
Quote from: George on January 02, 2008, 07:13:05 AM
(http://www.malaspina.edu/~mcneil/jpg/chopin.jpg)
Oh yeah :)
New hopeful: Young Frederick who gave us some of the most beautiful music ever written.
So here is the new list:
Beethoven 17
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 5
Bartok 7
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Chopin 10
Quote from: orbital on January 02, 2008, 09:46:45 AM
New hopeful: Young Frederick who gave us some of the most beautiful music ever written.
...and this thread a sitting duck. >:D (Now, now George, you know I enjoy his music from time to time. ;))
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:uZYsk4tyqgG1dM:http://www.malaspina.edu/~mcneil/jpg/chopin.jpg) = (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:yjFlV0Zc5Z0NpM:http://meuse.com/sitduk2.jpg)
Pretty tough competition in this game, some greats are going down ;D
Beethoven 18 +
Mozart 10
Dvorak 9
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 5
Bartok 7
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Chopin 9 -
Beethoven 18
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10 (+)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 13
Stravinsky 5
Bartok 6 (-)
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Chopin 9 -
Beethoven 18
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12 -
Stravinsky 5
Bartok 7 +
Shostakovich 11
Sibelius 11
Chopin 9
Beethoven 18
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6 +
Bartok 7
Shostakovich 10 -
Sibelius 11
Chopin 9
It's the 3rd here already so ...NEW RULE! a vote (2+,2-)
So...
Beethoven 18
Mozart 10-2=8
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6+2=8
Bartok 7
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 11
Chopin 9
Let the fun begin!
Beethoven 18
Mozart 8 + 2 = 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 7
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 11
Chopin 9 -2 = 7
8)
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Now playing:
Mozart Violin Concerti - Perlman - Vienna PO / Levine Itzhak Perlman - K 218 Violin Concerto #4 in D 1st mvmt - Allegro
Beethoven 18 - 2 = 16
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 7 + 2 = 9
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 11
Chopin 7
Beethoven 16
Mozart 10 - 2 = 8
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 9
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 11 + 2 = 13
Chopin 7
Beethoven 16
Mozart 8
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10 +
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6 -
Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on January 02, 2008, 04:01:27 PM
Beethoven 16
Mozart 8
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10 +
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6 -
I have a feeling that Chopin will be the best thing that ever happened to Bartok.
Beethoven 16
Mozart 8 + 1 = 9
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 10 - 1 = 9
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Quote from: Bogey on January 02, 2008, 04:02:39 PM
I have a feeling that Chopin will be the best thing that ever happened to Bartok.
Other than Transylvanian peasants, of course...
Quote from: Sydney Grew on January 02, 2008, 04:15:12 PM
Beethoven 16
Mozart 8 + 2 = 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 10 - 2 = 8
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
A vote now is 2+ and 2-, don't forget it next time ;)
Beethoven 16
Mozart 10 - 2 = 8
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 8 + 2 = 10
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Beethoven 16 - 2 = 14
Mozart 8 + 2 = 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Beethoven 14 - 2 = 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 10 + 2 = 12
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
>:D ;D
--Bruce
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12 + 2 = 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6 -2 =4
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8 (-)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14 (+)
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 4
Quote from: Symphonien on January 02, 2008, 07:44:28 PM
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8 (-)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14 (+)
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Chopin should at 4. I can't subtract now apparently. :-[ Sorry
Quote from: A Deceptive Ring of Fire on January 02, 2008, 07:46:47 PM
Chopin should at 4. I can't subtract now apparently. :-[ Sorry
Corrected. :)
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 8 - 2 = 6
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 4 + 2 = 6
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 8 +
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12 -
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Beethoven 12
Mozart 8 -
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14 +
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Quote from: George on January 02, 2008, 08:04:49 PM
Beethoven 12
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 8 - 2 = 6
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 4 + 2 = 6
What's this with +/- 2? I've understood that if you pass one day, you can't vote for two days the following day. If that is allowed I have lots of unused votes, since this thread is quite some days old, and I've only votes three times!!!!
The +/- is just for the game to get quicker and funnier.
There's no such thing as unused votes, if you didn't vote a certain day, you missed your change.
The geeks are rewarded :P
So now we're going to +/-2? Why not just start at 5 instead of 10? Seems very arbitrary......
Quote from: erato on January 03, 2008, 02:44:08 AM
So now we're going to +/-2? Why not just start at 5 instead of 10? Seems very arbitrary......
Cuz the other Composers started with 10, it wouldn't be fair to them ;D
And this way we can practice a little math, just go with the flow.
Beethoven 12
Mozart 8+2=10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10-2=8
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Beethoven 12 + 2 = 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 8 - 2 = 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13 -2 = 11
Chopin 6 + 2 = 8
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13 -2 = 11 +2 = 13
Chopin 6 + 2 = 8 -2 = 6
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8 + 2 = 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6 - 2 = 4
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12 (+2)
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 4 (-2)
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14-2=12
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12+2 =14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 6
I'm not keeping track, but some new people here voting which is good of course, but remember to read the rules if you haven't already. ;)
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11 +
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13
Chopin 4 -
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 8 - 2 = 6
Shostakovich 14
Sibelius 13 + 2 = 15
Chopin 4
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11 + 2 = 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 14 - 2 = 12
Sibelius 15
Chopin 4
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11 + 2 = 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4+2=6
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 14 - 2 = 12
Sibelius 15
Chopin 4-2=2
I love Chopin and all, but he is doomed anyway...
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 11 + 2 = 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4+2=6
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 15 +2 = 17
Chopin 2 -2 = 0 ELIMINATED
btpaul674 insert composer into the game please.
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL
Why does anybody add +/-2 now? Even more than once?
Quote from: Wurstwasser on January 03, 2008, 11:48:14 PM
Why does anybody add +/-2 now?
To be faster and funnier ;)
Beethoven 14
Mozart 12-2=10
Dvorak 10
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky6
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 17 +2 = 19
Beethoven 14
Mozart 10
Dvorak 10-2 = 8
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Sibelius 19 + 2 = 21 (HALL OF FAME)
And I'll add...
Ligeti 10
But I think btpaul674 still needs to add one more.
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL
Yes, btpaul674 still has to add one more.
sorry about the delay.
I'll add
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10
Beethoven 14 + 2 = 16
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6 - 2 = 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10
Beethoven 16 + 2 = 18 Almost there
Mozart 10
Dvorak 8 - 2 - 6
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10
Beethoven 18 + 2 = Hall Of Fame
Mozart 10
Dvorak 6-2 = 4
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10
ADD: Rachmaninov 10
Mozart 10+2=12
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 10-2=8
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10
Rachmaninov 10
Mozart 12
Dvorak 2 -
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 14 +
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 8
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10
Rachmaninov 10
Mozart 12
Dvorak 2
Tchaikovsky 13 - 2 = 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 8 + 2 = 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10
Rachmaninov 10
I wanted to add fresh meat, but Dvorak doesn't deserve to go!
Mozart 12
Dvorak 2
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 4
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 12 +2=14
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 10-2=8
Rachmaninov 10
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL
Mozart 12
Dvorak 2 + 2 = 4
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 4 - 2 = 2
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 8
Rachmaninov 10
Mozart 12
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 2
Bartok 6 +2 = 8
Shostakovich 14 -2 = 12 (It is not fitting that he has more than Mozart)
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 8
Rachmaninov 10
Mozart 12
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 4 + 2 = 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 8
Rachmaninov 10 - 2 = 8
Mozart 14 +
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 6 -
Rachmaninov 8
I just realized something.... Once all of the "great" composers are in the Hall of Fame, and their "not-so-great" colleagues are in Hell, we will be left with a pool of mediocre composers. Thus, mediocre composers could end up in the Hall of Fame while arguably superior "not-so-great" composers were sent to Hell early in the game. 8)
Quote from: Keemun on January 04, 2008, 11:20:19 AM
I just realized something.... Once all of the "great" composers are in the Hall of Fame, and their "not-so-great" colleagues are in Hell, we will be left with a pool of mediocre composers. Thus, mediocre composers could end up in the Hall of Fame while arguably superior "not-so-great" composers were sent to Hell early in the game. 8)
Yeh i was thinking of that, the guys are in Purgatory, so they will get another chance before going to Hell ;D
I will think of something.
Quote from: The Emperor on January 04, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
Yeh i was thinking of that, the guys are in Purgatory, so they will get another chance before going to Hell ;D
I will think of something.
Careful not to fall into that "soccer trophy" mentality. If the lesser known ones are added then they probably will never get to the 20...and if they do, then maybe we should listen to them more. ;D
Quote from: The Emperor on January 04, 2008, 12:09:00 PM
Yeh i was thinking of that, the guys are in Purgatory, so they will get another chance before going to Hell ;D
I will think of something.
Do me a favor and don't do that thinking. It's too late in the game to change the rules.
So when does the betting start?
Quote from: Don on January 04, 2008, 12:27:09 PM
Do me a favor and don't do that thinking. It's too late in the game to change the rules.
I'm not going to change the rules.
I was thinking of like an extra round just for the losers, like a side game for an extra entry on the hall of fame, just for those greats to have their last chance, but if the people doesn't want, won't be done ;)
Quote from: The Emperor on January 04, 2008, 01:12:28 PM
I'm not going to change the rules.
I was thinking of like an extra round just for the losers, like a side game for an extra entry on the hall of fame, just for those greats to have their last chance, but if the people doesn't want, won't be done ;)
Losers don't deserve extra opportunities, do they?
Quote from: Don on January 04, 2008, 01:25:03 PM
Losers don't deserve extra opportunities, do they?
Well yeh, except when i am the loser ;D
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4 + 2 = 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12 - 2 = 10
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 6
Rachmaninov 8
Mozart 14-2=12
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 10+2=12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 6
Rachmaninov 8
Quote from: The Emperor on January 04, 2008, 03:37:02 PM
Mozart 14-2=12
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 10+2=12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 6
Rachmaninov 8
Mozart 12 + 2 = 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14 -2 = 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 10
Ralph Vaughan Williams 6
Rachmaninov 8
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Mozart 14
Dvorak 4 (-)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 12 (+)
Ralph Vaughan Williams 6
Rachmaninov 8
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6 +
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 12
Ralph Vaughan Williams 4 -
Rachmaninov 8
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 11 +
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 12
Ralph Vaughan Williams 2 -
Rachmaninov 8
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 12
Ralph Vaughan Williams 2 -2 = Hell
Rachmaninov 10 +
Schubert 10 8)
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14 +
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 8 -
Well Vaughan Williams was short lived. Shame.
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6 - 2 = 4
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14
Rachmaninov 10 +2 = 12
Schubert 8
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 11 - 2 = 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8 + 2 = 10
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS
Quote from: George on January 04, 2008, 08:29:41 PMRalph Vaughan Williams 2 -2 = Hell
It's obvious: You don't know RVV, at least not his Tallis Phantasia
RVV, Tallis 0 + 100000000000 = 100000000000 (JACKPOT!)
Mozart 14 - 2 = 12
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 11 - 2 = 9
Mahler 12 + 2 = 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8 + 2 = 10
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
Mozart 12
Dvorak 2 -
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 16 +
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
Mozart 12
Dvorak 4 +
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 16
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 6 -
Mozart 14+
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14-
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 6
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 10 - 2 = 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 6 + 2 = 8
Quote from: The Emperor on December 28, 2007, 09:06:48 AM
3. Once a composer is eliminated, goes to hell! and a new composer enters competition.
Quote from: The Emperor on January 05, 2008, 01:47:41 AM
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS
OK, are they in Hell or purgatory?
Maybe they are just outside of Hell, the circle for philosophers and poets. :D
Quote from: Corey on January 05, 2008, 09:26:50 AM
Maybe they are just outside of Hell, the circle for philosophers and poets. :D
I thought that place was called purgatory. IOW, when you die, it's either heaven, hell or purgatory.
Mozart 14 +
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6 -
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14
Rachmaninov 10 -
Schubert 10 +
Quote from: George on January 05, 2008, 09:18:30 AM
OK, are they in Hell or purgatory?
Maybe they are in the Hell of fame. >:D
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12+2=14
Ligeti 14-2=12
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 10
Quote from: Wanderer on January 05, 2008, 10:02:06 AM
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 12
Ligeti 14
Rachmaninov 10 -
Schubert 10 +
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4 + 2 = 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 14 - 2 = 12
Stravinsky 6
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 12
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 10
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Quote from: George on January 05, 2008, 09:28:38 AM
I thought that place was called purgatory. IOW, when you die, it's either heaven, hell or purgatory.
It's been a while since I read
Inferno but I seem to remember a section that was part of Hell, but that came before the first circle and was reserved for ancient philosophers. I should read it again.
EDIT: Wikipedia to the rescue!
First Circle (Limbo). Here reside the unbaptized and the virtuous pagans, who, though not sinful, did not accept Christ. Here also reside those who, if they lived before the coming of Christ, did not pay fitting homage to their respective deity. They are not punished in an active sense, but rather grieve only their separation from God, without hope of reconciliation.Okay, carry on. $:)
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 6+2=8
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 12-2=10
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 10
Stravinsky at 6? Is everybody on crack?
Quote from: George on January 05, 2008, 09:18:30 AM
OK, are they in Hell or purgatory?
I changed it ot purgatory later, i thought it was too harsh to go straight to hell. ;D
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10 +
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 10
Rachmaninov 8 -
Schubert 10
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14 - 2 = 12
Ligeti 10
Rachmaninov 8 + 2 = 10
Schubert 10
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 12 + 2 = 14
Ligeti 10
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 10-2=8
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4 (-)
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 12 (+)
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 8
Quote from: The Emperor on January 05, 2008, 01:45:27 PM
I changed it ot purgatory later, i thought it was too harsh to go straight to hell. ;D
OK, so Handel is in Hell, the rest, purgatory. ;D
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6 +
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10 -
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 12
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 8
Mozart 14
Dvorak 8 +
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 10 -
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 8
Quote from: George on January 05, 2008, 08:39:11 PM
OK, so Handel is in Hell, the rest, purgatory. ;D
All in purgatory, i've been updating that ;)
Mozart 14
Dvorak 6 -
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 10 -
Rachmaninov 10
Schubert 10 +
Mozart 14
Dvorak 4 -
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 10
Rachmaninov 12 +
Schubert 10
Mozart 16+
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 8-
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 10
Mozart 16
Dvorak 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 8
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 14+2 =16
Ligeti 8-2=6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 10
Mozart 16
Dvorak 2 + 2 = 4
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 10 - 2 = 8
Now is your chance to send to send two composers to where they belong 0:) >:D
Mozart 16 + 2 = 18
Dvorak 4 - 2 = 2
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
Mozart 18 + 2 = 20
Dvorak 2 - 2 = 0
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
Quote from: premont on January 06, 2008, 11:28:32 AM
Mozart 18 + 2 = 20
Dvorak 2 - 2 = 0
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
You get to add two new ones now. They get 10 points to start.
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 10
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10 - 2 = 8
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8 + 2 = 10
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14 -
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 12 +
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 10
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 14+
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 8-
Dvorak :'(
Tchaikovsky 11 +
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14
Ligeti 4 -
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 8
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14+2=16
Ligeti 4
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 8-2=6
Byrd is a dead duck. ;D
Quote from: George on January 06, 2008, 04:23:21 PM
Byrd is a dead duck. ;D
I don't even know the guy, nothing personal but he is going down! ;D
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 10 + 2 = 12
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 4 - 2 = 2
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 6
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 10+2=12
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 2-2=0 New Guy: Prokofiev 10
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 6
Poor Ligeti :(
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 16 - 2 = 14
Prokofiev 10
Rachmaninov 12 + 2 = 14
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 6
Quote from: The Emperor on January 06, 2008, 05:49:21 PM
Poor Ligeti :(
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI
Are those in purgatory condemned there forever, or do they have a chance to repent and get to heaven/Hall of Fame?
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 12
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 14 +2 = 16
Prokofiev 10
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 6 -2 = 4
Quote from: The Emperor on January 06, 2008, 05:49:21 PM
Poor Ligeti :(
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI
NO, NOT LIGETI!!! :'( How dare you guys! >:(
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14 (+)
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 16
Prokofiev 10
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 2 (-)
Quote from: George on January 06, 2008, 07:10:58 PM
Are those in purgatory condemned there forever, or do they have a chance to repent and get to heaven/Hall of Fame?
My idea was for them to have a last chance, but there was already someone here that didn't like the idea....
But i'll probably will do it, one last chance for them, cuz no one had a saying in what composers started the game anyway, so Handel can get his chance this way :P
When we reach 10 composers in the purgatory, we will do a round to get another composer in the hall of fame, the rest straight to hell!
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14 (+)
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8
Shostakovich 18+
Prokofiev 10
Rachmaninov 12-
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Don't forget is still Byrd 2.
It still flies...
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 6 -
Shostakovich
Prokofiev 10
Rachmaninov 14+
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 4 -
Shostakovich 18
Prokofiev 12 +
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14 + 2 = 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 4
Shostakovich 18 - 2 = 16
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Add Kurt Atterberg next!
Quote from: The Emperor on January 07, 2008, 04:11:50 AM
Don't forget is still Byrd 2.
It still flies...
Yes, how come he is gone, he was at 2 last ::)
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 4 + 2 = 6
Shostakovich 16
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 14
Buxtehude 10
Byrd 2 - 2 = 0
Well, now he is gone >:D
New nominee: BRAHMS
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 16 + 2 = 18
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 14 - 2 = 12
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 6
Shostakovich 18+2=20
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14-2=12
Schubert 12
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 10
Since Shostakovich gets 20, and is in the hall of fame if I understand correctly, I'll add Mussorgsky
Shosty's in! ;D
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD
UPDATE
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 6
Mussorgsky 10
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 12
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 10
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 10 - 2 = 8
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 12
Buxtehude 8 + 2 = 10
Brahms 10
Am I the only one here who thinks that Byrd is one of the great composers?
Quote from: premont on January 07, 2008, 10:13:35 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks that Byrd is one of the great composers?
I'll be exploring him when I get to Renaissance music. :)
Quote from: premont on January 07, 2008, 10:13:35 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks that Byrd is one of the great composers?
Probably not, but he didn't last long in this particular game. Must be the strong competition.
Quote from: premont on January 07, 2008, 10:13:35 AM
Am I the only one here who thinks that Byrd is one of the great composers?
He is, but not here. Any composer who is not Bach, Mozart, Haydn, romantic or part of the postromantic, early modernism has a hard time getting anywhere on this board!
Do I think most of you ought to broaden your listening? ;D
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8-2=6
Mussorgsky 8
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 12
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 10+2=12
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 6+2=8
Mussorgsky 8
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 12-2=10
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 12
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 8 - 2 = 6
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 12 + 2 = 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 12
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8 + 2 = 10
Mussorgsky 6 - 2 = 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 12
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16
Stravinsky 12
Bartok 8 -
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 14 +
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16 -2 =14
Stravinsky 12 +2=14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 10
Brahms 14
$:) Why is Buxtehude here? Didn't he get added when Byrd was erroneously dismissed? I want my money back!
Y'all have a great day! I'm expecting some very entertaining returns from New Hampshire.
Quote from: longears on January 08, 2008, 05:34:28 AM
$:) Why is Buxtehude here?
As it happened:
Quote from: premont on January 06, 2008, 11:28:32 AM
Mozart 18 + 2 = 20
Dvorak 2 - 2 = 0
Tchaikovsky 9
Mahler 10
Stravinsky 10
Bartok 10
Shostakovich 16
Ligeti 6
Rachmaninov 12
Schubert 8
He then got to add two new ones, Byrd and Buxtehude. $:)
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14
Schubert 12 +
Buxtehude 8 -
Brahms 14
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16 +
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 10 -
Buxtehude 8
Brahms 14
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 16 - 2 = 14
Stravinsky 16
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 6
Brahms 14 + 2 = 16
Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 16 - 2 = 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 6
Brahms 16 + 2 = 18
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Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 6-
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 6
Rubinstein 10
(Brahms 20+)
Tchaikovsky 13 +
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 6
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 4 -
Rubinstein 10
Quote from: Anne on January 08, 2008, 08:44:44 AM
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Tchaikovsky 11
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 6-
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 10
Buxtehude 6
Rubinstein 10
(Brahms 20+)
What made you think of Rubinstein?
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 12-
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 6
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 12+
Buxtehude 4
Rubinstein 10
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 14 (+)
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 6
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 12
Buxtehude 4
Rubinstein 8 (-)
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 6+2=8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmainov 14
Schubert 12
Buxtehude 4-2=2
Rubinstein 8
Quote from: Don on January 08, 2008, 12:41:42 PM
What made you think of Rubinstein?
I liked what I knew about him so far and am interested in learning more. He was one of the arch-romantics.
He wrote the opera,
The Demon whose premier in 1875 was a great success. This is a quote from the liner notes, "While conservative and accessible in harmonic language, structurally and stylistically
The Demon is refreshingly original and it greatly influenced Tchaikovsky's work on
Yevgeny Onegin . There are musical and textual reflections of Glinka, Meyerbeer, Gounod and even Wagner, but Rubinstein integrates all of these into his own form of expression, producing an opera of many beauties."
He was a pianist, one of the great virtuosos of the nineteenth century, considered towards the end of his life the only serious rival to Franz Liszt."
He was also a noted conductor, educator, and composer. He founded the St. Petersburg Conservatory in 1862 and composed several symphonies, piano concertos. His music, contemptuously disregarded for much of the 20th century, has begun to come back in vogue thanks to the Romantic Revival of recent years. His piano concertos are heard again, and his "Ocean Symphony" has regained some currency. Of his 19 operas,
The Demon has always been the most admired, and its sonorous aria, "Do not weep, child," was a specialty of the legendary bass Chaliapin."
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 14 + 2 = 16
Schubert 12
Buxtehude 2 - 2 = 0 and he's out!
Rubinstein 8
New entry: Alexander Scryabine 10
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 16 + 2 = 18
Schubert 12
Rubinstein 8 - 2 = 6
Alexander Scriabin 10
Quote from: The Emperor on January 08, 2008, 03:03:16 PM
UPDATE.
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD
Suggestion: Call the second category HALL OF SHAME
Tchaikovsky 13
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4 -2 = 2
Prokofiev 12
Rachmaninov 18 + 2 = 20*
Schubert 12
Rubinstein 6
Alexander Scriabin 10
*Schoenberg 10 8)
Is there another composer named Scriabin I'm not aware of?
Quote from: George on January 08, 2008, 08:16:39 PM
Suggestion: Call the second category HALL OF SHAME
I was thinking of doing that extra round for the purgatory guys(once we get to 10), one would go to the hall(the winner), the other 9 to hell for eternity.
I think it could be fun, since only one of ten can enter the hall, we all will be fighting hard for our favorite.
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE
Tchaikovsky 15 +
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 2
Prokofiev 12
Schubert 12
Rubinstein 6
Scriabin 10
Schoenberg 8 -
Quote from: George on January 08, 2008, 08:16:39 PM
Suggestion: Call the second category HALL OF SHAME
It´s ALL THE SAME
Tchaikovsky 15
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 2
Prokofiev 14 ++
Schubert 12
Rubinstein 4 --
Scriabin 10
Schoenberg 8
Tchaikovsky 15
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 2
Prokofiev 14
Schubert 12 + 2 = 14
Rubinstein 4 - 2 = 2
Scriabin 10
Schoenberg 8
Tchaikovsky 15+2=17
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 2
Prokofiev 14
Schubert 14
Rubinstein 2-2=0 (Out)
Scriabin 10
Schoenberg 8
Add Haydn 10
I have no idea what is going on here?
Could someone explain it to me?
Tchaikovsky 17+2=19
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 2
Prokofiev 14
Schubert 14
Scriabin 10
Schoenberg 8-2=6
Haydn 10
Quote from: Harry on January 09, 2008, 04:28:14 AM
I have no idea what is going on here?
Could someone explain it to me?
No one else does either, Harry. Were adding two points to one name and taking two points away from another name, once a day. It's just play and doesn't mean anything. You can make your choices based on any criteria you choose, including complete randomness. One a name gets either 20 points or 0, it's out! Join us and have fun!
Tchaikovsky 19
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 2
Prokofiev 14+2=16
Schubert 14
Scriabin 10-2=8
Schoenberg 6
Haydn 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN
Quote from: The Emperor on January 09, 2008, 04:45:57 AM
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN
See, Harry? This is where the names go after reaching 20 or 0 points. As you can tell, it's not quite completely random, but close!
Tchaikovsky 19
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4+
Prokofiev 16
Schubert 14
Scriabin 8
Schoenberg 4-
Haydn 10
Quote from: Harry on January 09, 2008, 05:26:17 AM
Tchaikovsky 19+1=20
Mahler 14+2
Stravinsky 14+1
Bartok 8-1
Mussorgsky 4-1
Prokofiev 16+2
Schubert 14+2
Scriabin 8+1
Schoenberg 4-2
Haydn 10+2
;D
Harry, you can add two points and subtract two points, total. $:)
Taking from where Anne left off...
Tchaikovsky 19
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8
Mussorgsky 4 - 2 = 2
Prokofiev 16
Schubert 14
Scriabin 8 + 2 = 10
Schoenberg 4
Haydn 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY
One more in purgatory and the round of 10 for salvation begins(only one can escape hell!)
Quote from: The Emperor on January 09, 2008, 07:07:50 AM
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY
One more in purgatory and the round of 10 for salvation begins(only one can escape hell!)
I trust that you will start a new thread for that round? :-\
Still wrong Harry ;D
You have to add or subtract the 2 points to the same composer
For instance B+2, C-2
:P
George, sure.
Tchaikovsky 19 + 2 = 21 and HALL OF FAME
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 16 - 2 = 14
Bartok 8
Prokofiev 16
Schubert 14
Scriabin 10
Schoenberg 4
Haydn 10
Liszt 10
Add Bruckner 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY
New day
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 8+2=10
Prokofiev 16
Schubert 14
Scriabin 10
Schoenberg 4
Haydn 10-2=8
Liszt 10
Bruckner 10
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Prokofiev 16
Schubert 14 - 2 = 12
Scriabin 10 + 2 = 12
Schoenberg 4
Haydn 8
Liszt 10
Bruckner 10
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Prokofiev 16
Schubert 12
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 4 + 2 = 6
Haydn 8 - 2 = 6
Liszt 10
Bruckner 10
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Prokofiev 18 +
Schubert 12
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 4 -
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Bruckner 10
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Prokofiev 20 (HALL OF FAME)
Schubert 12
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 4
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Bruckner 8 (-)
Add:
Nørgård 10
... because I discovered him today and he's awesome!
Let's hope my next contemporary composer fares better than Ligeti. Otherwise, next time I won't bother and will just add someone than I can send to hell. >:D
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Schubert 12
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 4 + 2
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10 - 2
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Schubert 14 ++
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 4 --
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10 - 2
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Schubert 14
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 2--
Haydn 8++
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Schubert 16++
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 0-- (gone)
Haydn 8
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10
Enter: R. Schumann
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 14+2=16
Bartok 10
Schubert 16
Scriabin 12 -2 =10
R Schumann 10
Haydn 8
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 16
Bartok 10 - 2 = 8
Schubert 16 + 2 = 18
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 10
Haydn 8
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10
Too many composers I like!
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY, SCHOENBERG
I'll make a thread for the purgatory guys now.
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 16
Bartok 8
Schubert 18 + 2 = 20 Hall of Fame, Baby!!
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 10
Haydn 8
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10 - 2 = 8
Debussy 10
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY, SCHOENBERG
Quote from: The Emperor on December 28, 2007, 09:06:48 AM
2- Once a composer reaches 30 points he goes to the hall of fame, and another composer enters the competition.
Might want to edit this so that it says "20."
Mahler 16+
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Schubert 12
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 2-
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Bruckner 8
Nørgård 10
Quote from: Anne on January 10, 2008, 07:28:49 AM
Mahler 16+
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Schubert 12
Scriabin 12
Schoenberg 2-
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Bruckner 8
Nørgård 10
This is confusing. Schubert is already up in heaven, and Schoenberg is in a race to redeem his soul.
Quote from: George on January 10, 2008, 06:27:34 AM
Might want to edit this so that it says "20."
Rules updated!
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 18
Bartok 8
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 10 + 2 = 12
Haydn 8 - 2 = 6
Liszt 10
Nørgård 6
Debussy 10
Mahler 14
Stravinsky 18 + 2 = 20
Bartok 8
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 12 - 2 = 10
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Nørgård 6
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 10
Quote from: Anne on January 10, 2008, 07:28:49 AM
Mahler 16+
Stravinsky 14
Bartok 10
Schubert 12
Nice try. ;D
Mahler 14
Bartok 10 +
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 10
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Nørgård 6
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 8 -
Mahler 14
Bartok 10 - 2 = 8
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 10
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Nørgård 6 + 2 = 8
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 8
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY, SCHOENBERG
Siedler you forgot to add a composer, please add!! or i will ;D
Quote from: The Emperor on January 10, 2008, 01:49:49 PM
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY
PURGATORY - CHOPIN, HANDEL, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, MUSSORGSKY, SCHOENBERG
Siedler you forgot to add a composer, please add!! or i will ;D
You don't consider R. Strauss a composer? :'( :'(
Someone didn't had a composer, there are only 9 in competition right now.
Don't know who.
Poor Bruckner was suddenly sent to hell whereas he still had 8 points :'( :'(
You are right, next person to vote don't forget Bruckner on the list!
Quote from: George on January 10, 2008, 09:45:03 AM
Nice try. ;D
I do not know where that list of composers I used came from. It had Bruckner on it and no one else has Bruckner. Think I'm going to just watch from now on.
How many points was Bruckner on? 8? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Mahler 14
Bartok 8
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 8 (-)
Haydn 6
Liszt 10
Nørgård 10 (+)
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 14
Bartok 8
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 8
Haydn 4 --
Liszt 10
Nørgård 12 ++
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 14
Bartok 10 +
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 8
Haydn 4
Liszt 8 -
Nørgård 12
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 14
Bartok 10
Scriabin 10
R Schumann 10++
Haydn 4
Liszt 6--
Nørgård 12
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 14+2=16
Bartok 10
Scriabin 10-2=8
R Schumann 10
Haydn 4
Liszt 6
Nørgård 12
Debussy 10
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 16
Bartok 12
Scriabin 8
R Schumann 10
Haydn 4
Liszt 6
Nørgård 10 - 2 = 8
Debussy 10 + 2 = 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 16
Bartok 12
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 10 + 2 = 12
Haydn 4
Liszt 6 - 2 = 4
Norgard 8
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 16
Bartok 12 - 2 = 10
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 12
Haydn 4
Liszt 4
Nørgård 8 + 2 = 10
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Mahler 16
Bartok 10
Scriabin 8 + 2 = 10
R. Schumann 12
Haydn 4
Liszt 4 - 2 = 2
Norgard 10
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY
PURGATORY -
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
Quote from: The Emperor on January 11, 2008, 07:35:21 AM
HELL - CHOPIN...
And there he will reside with all those who voted against him. >:D
Mahler 16+2=18
Bartok 10
Scriabin 10
R. Schumann 12
Haydn 4
Liszt 2-2=0
Norgard 10
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
I'll add Atterberg
Quote from: George on January 11, 2008, 08:07:33 AM
And there he will reside with all those who voted against him. >:D
Op. 27/2 alone should reserve him a place in heaven... 0:)
Mahler 18+2=20
Bartok 10
Scriabin 10-2=8
R. Schumann 12
Haydn 4
Atterberg 10
Norgard 10
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
I owe Greg one. ;D
Add Copland.
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER
PURGATORY - LISZT
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
Bartok 10+2=12
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 12
Haydn 4-2=2
Atterberg 10
Norgard 10
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Copland 10
Bartok 12
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 12
Haydn 2 - 2 = 0 Buh Bye !
Atterberg 10
Norgard 10 + 2 = 12
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 8
Copland 10
(Psst... add Hindemith!)
Bartok 14 +
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 12
Atterberg 10
Norgard 12
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 6 -
Bruckner 8
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
Bartok 14
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 10 (-)
Atterberg 10
Nørgård 14 (+)
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 8
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
Bartok 14
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 10
Nørgård 14
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 10 ++
Copland 8 --
Frank Martin 10
Bartok 14
Scriabin 8
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 10
Nørgård 16 ++
Debussy 12
R. Strauss 4 --
Bruckner 10
Copland 8
Frank Martin 10
Bartok 14
Scriabin 8-2=6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 10
Nørgård 16
Debussy 12+2=14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 8
Frank Martin 10
Bartok 14
Scriabin 4--
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 10
Nørgård 16
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10++
Frank Martin 10
Bartok 14 + 2 = 16
Scriabin 4
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 10
Nørgård 16
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4 - 2 = 2
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
What?! You guys are dropping R. Strauss! :o
Bartok 16
Scriabin 4
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 10
Nørgård 16 - 2 = 14
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 2 + 2 = 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
This topic is a classic. Talk about flogging a dead horse.. and then flogging it some more.. and some more.. and.. 8)
Quote from: Rod Corkin on January 12, 2008, 07:56:57 AM
This topic is a classic. Talk about flogging a dead horse.. and then flogging it some more.. and some more.. and.. 8)
Always nice to have an expert's appraisal!
Bartok 18 + 2 = 20
Scriabin 4
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 8 - 2 = 6
Nørgård 14
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
To the hall of fame with Bela! I'll add Ives.
Scriabin 4 - 2
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 6
Nørgård 14 + 2 = 16
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
Sorry, Alex. :(
Scriabin 4 +
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 6
Nørgård 14 -
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
Ives 10
Quote from: George on January 12, 2008, 10:06:15 AM
Scriabin 4 +
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 6
Nørgård 14 -
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
Ives 10
*Gives you the Bea Arthur "Why I oughta..." look*
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070315/dvd/maude_l.jpg)
That's the one!
Quote from: longears on January 12, 2008, 08:47:02 AM
Always nice to have an expert's appraisal!
Oh my horses are alive to be sure.
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
Scriabin 4 + 2 = 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 6 - 2 = 4
Nørgård 14
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10 (How did this guy get in here? ::) )
Ives 10
Quote from: orbital on January 12, 2008, 01:36:39 PM
Scriabin 4 + 2 = 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 6 - 2 = 4
Nørgård 14
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10 (How did this guy get in here? ::) )
Ives 10
The same way Scriabin got in. 8)
Quote from: longears on January 12, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
The same way Scriabin got in. 8)
No, I mean Mr. Martin suddenly appeared at the beginning of previous page >:D Not that there's anything wrong with that
I see. btpaul674 eliminated Haydn but did not nominate a replacement. erato leapt into the breach and installed Frank Martin as the next victim. Ya snooze, ya lose. [Not that there's anything wrong with that :-[ .]
Scriabin 6 + 2 = 8
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 4
Norgard 14
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
Ives 10 - 2 = 8
Scriabin 6 + 2 = 8
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 4
Norgard 16 (+)
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Martin 10
Ives 6 (-)
Scriabin 8-2=6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 4
Norgard 16
Debussy 14+2=16
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Martin 10
Ives 6
Scriabin 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 4
Norgard 16 - 2 = 14
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 4 + 2 = 6
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Martin 10
Ives 6
Scriabin 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 4
Norgard 14
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 12 ++
Copland 8 --
Martin 10
Ives 6
Scriabin 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 4 - 2 = 2
Nørgård 14 + 2 = 16
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 12
Copland 8
Martin 10
Ives 6
Scriabin 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 0--(Gone)
Nørgård 16
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 12
Copland 10++
Martin 10
Ives 6
Add Honegger
Scriabin 4 --
R. Schumann 10
Nørgård 18 ++
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 12
Copland 10
Martin 10
Ives 6
Honegger 10
Come on lets send Nørgård into the hall.
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,
Scriabin 4
R. Schumann 10
Nørgård 18+2=20
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 12
Copland 10
Martin 10-2=8
Ives 6
Honegger 10
Add Arvo Pärt
All that work and Nørgård only gets into Purgatory? O ye gods!
My mistake, he is on the hall of fame!
Yes! Nice work guys! 8)
I'm surprised he actually made it and Ligeti didn't.
Anyway...
Scriabin 4
R. Schumann 10
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 4 (-)
Bruckner 12
Copland 10
Martin 8
Ives 6
Honegger 10
Pärt 12 (+)
Scriabin 4
R. Schumann 8 -
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6 +
Bruckner 12
Copland 10
Martin 8
Ives 6
Honegger 10
Pärt 12
Scriabin 4
R. Schumann 8
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 14 ++
Copland 8 --
Martin 8
Ives 6
Honegger 10
Pärt 12
Scriabin 2--
R. Schumann 10++
Debussy 16
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 14
Copland 8
Martin 8
Ives 6
Honegger 10
Pärt 12
Scriabin 2
R. Schumann 10
Debussy 16 + 2 = 18
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 14
Copland 8
Martin 8
Ives 6
Honegger 10
Pärt 12 - 2 = 10
Scriabin 2
R. Schumann 10
Debussy 18
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 14
Copland 10++
Martin 8
Ives 4--
Honegger 10
Pärt 10
Scriabin 2
R. Schumann 10
Debussy 18 + 2 = 20
R. Strauss 6
Bruckner 14
Copland 10
Martin 8 - 2 = 6
Ives 4
Honegger 10
Pärt 10
Messiaen 10
Scriabin 2-2=0
R. Schumann 10
R. Strauss 6+2=8
Bruckner 14
Copland 10
Martin 6
Ives 4
Honegger 10
Pärt 10
Messiaen 10
Scriabin goes
Add Barber 10
Quote from: longears on January 14, 2008, 04:42:11 AM
Add Barber
(http://www.athensguide.com/best/barber.jpg)
Just a little off the top, sir? ;D
Quote from: longears on January 14, 2008, 05:22:38 AM
Just a little off the top, sir? ;D
;D
That guy looks like he'd cut your head off, forget the hair. :-\
Johnny Depp without makeup?
R. Schumann 10 + 2 = 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 14
Copland 10
Martin 6
Ives 4
Honegger 10
Part 10
Messiaen 10
Barber 10 - 2 = 8
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,
Quote from: The Emperor on January 14, 2008, 08:45:43 AM
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,
If Beethoven's music is in heaven, then send me straight to hell.
Quote from: paulb on January 14, 2008, 09:42:04 AM
If Beethoven's music is in heaven, then send me straight to hell.
;D
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 14
Copland 10
Martin 6
Ives 4 - 2 = 2
Honegger 10
Part 10 + 2 = 12
Messiaen 10
Barber 8
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 16 +
Copland 10
Martin 6
Ives 0 -
Honegger 10
Part 12
Messiaen 10
Barber 8
sorry Ives!
add:
Penderecki 10
R. Schumann 12 + 2 = 14
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 6
Honegger 10
Part 12
Messiaen 10 - 2 = 8
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
R. Schumann 14 + 2 = 16
R. Strauss 8
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 6
Honegger 10
Part 12
Messiaen 8
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,
New day...
R. Schumann 16 - 2 = 14
R. Strauss 8 + 2 =10
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 6
Honegger 10
Part 12
Messiaen 8
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
i have a feeling Penderecki will be stuck in neutral forever ;D
Quote from: 僕はグレグ (Greg) on January 14, 2008, 01:49:37 PM
i have a feeling Penderecki will be stuck in neutral forever ;D
No he won't!
New day...
R. Schumann 12 (-)
R. Strauss 10
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 6
Honegger 10
Part 12
Messiaen 8
Barber 8
Penderecki 12 (+)
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 4 (--)
Honegger 10
Part 14 (++)
Messiaen 8
Barber 8
Penderecki 12
Frank Martin needs some love:
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 6 (++)
Honegger 10
Part 14
Messiaen 8
Barber 8
Penderecki 10 (--)
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 6 -2=4
Honegger 10
Part 14+2=16
Messiaen 8
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Bruckner 16
Copland 10
Martin 4
Honegger 10 + 2 = 12
Part 16
Messiaen 8 - 2 = 6
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Bruckner 18 ++
Copland 8 --
Martin 4
Honegger 12
Part 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
(Bruckner 20 ++)
Copland 6 --
Martin 4
Honegger 12
Part 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 8++
Martin 2--
Honegger 12
Part 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 8
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
R. Schumann 12-2=10
R. Strauss 10
Copland 8
Martin 2
Honegger 12
Part 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 8+2=10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
R. Schumann 10 + 2 = 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 8
Martin 2
Honegger 12
Part 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10 - 2 = 8
Gluck 10
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 8
Martin 0 -
Honegger 12
Part 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10 +
Gluck 10
add:
Gorecki 10
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 6 (--)
Honegger 12
Part 18 (++)
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
Gorecki 10
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 6
Honegger 14 (++)
Part 18
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
Gorecki 8 (--)
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 4 (-)
Honegger 14
Pärt 20 (HALL OF FAME)
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
Gorecki 8
Add:
Schnittke 10
Suggestion: after a few more months of this, you post the list of composers who are in Heaven and Hell in a separate thread, and ask: Would you rather go to heaven or hell? >:D 0:)
From Good Omens, by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett:
"Listen," said [the demon] Crowley, desperately, "how many musicians do you think your side have got, eh? First grade, I mean."
Aziraphale [the angel] looked taken aback. "Well, I should think-" he began.
"Two," said Crowley. "Elgar and Liszt. That's all. We've got the rest. Beethoven, Brahms, all the Bachs, Mozart, the lot. Can you imagine eternity with Elgar?"
Aziraphale shut his eyes. "All too easily," he groaned.
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 4
Honegger 14 + 2 = 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
Gorecki 8 - 2 = 6
Schnittke 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
R. Schumann 12
R. Strauss 10
Copland 4-2=2
Honegger 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 10+2=12
R. Schumann 10
R. Strauss 12 +
Copland 0 -
Honegger 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 12
Verdi 10
Quote from: Siedler on January 16, 2008, 08:23:35 AM
R. Schumann 10
R. Strauss 12 +
Copland 0 -
Honegger 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 10
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 12
Verdi 10
Err, why did Schumann suddenly lose two points?
Yeh he has 12. next one to vote remember Schumann =12
R. Schumann 10
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 16
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 8 -
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14 +
Verdi 10
R. Schumann 12 + 2 = 14
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 16 - 2 = 14
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 8
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14
Verdi 10
R. Schumann 14+2=16
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 14
Messiaen 6
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 8-2=6
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14
Verdi 10
Quote from: Morigan on January 16, 2008, 09:18:40 AM
Err, why did Schumann suddenly lose two points?
Oh sorry, I think I must have reduced Schumann points first, then I decided to drop Copland first. I didn't notice it. :-\
R. Schumann 16
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 14
Messiaen 6-2=4
Barber 10
Penderecki 10
Gluck 6
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14
Verdi 10+2=12
R. Schumann 16
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 14
Messiaen 4
Barber 10+2=12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 6
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14-2=12
Verdi 12
R. Schumann 16
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 14
Messiaen 4
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 6
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14 (+)
Verdi 10 (-)
R. Schumann 16+2=18
R. Strauss 12-2=10
Honegger 14
Messiaen 4
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 6
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14
Verdi 10
Quote from: Dm on January 16, 2008, 08:29:44 AM
Copland 0 -
Bogey's gonna be pissed ........
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:KAOjZ42XEQkW-M:http://jaybrams.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/dhscan10.jpg)
Now I know what a TV dinner feels like.
R. Schumann 18 + 2 = 20 0:)
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 14
Messiaen 4
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 6
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 14
Verdi 10 - 2 = 8
+
Elgar 10
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 14
Messiaen 4
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 6
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 16 ++
Verdi 8
Elgar 8 --
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 16++
Messiaen 4
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 4--
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 16
Verdi 8
Elgar 8
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 16 + 2 = 18
Messiaen 4 - 2 = 2
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 4
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 16
Verdi 8
Elgar 8
Schnittke should be on 16 and Elgar should be on 8.
Quote from: Symphonien on January 16, 2008, 08:07:29 PM
Schnittke should be on 16 and Elgar should be on 8.
Yes, quite.
Quote from: Symphonien on January 16, 2008, 08:07:29 PM
Schnittke should be on 16 and Elgar should be on 8.
Fixed my post.
Quote from: Bogey on January 16, 2008, 08:12:18 PM
Fixed my post.
Now Corey must amend his post ........
Fixed.
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 18
Messiaen 2
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 4
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 16 - 2 = 14
Verdi 8 + 2 = 10
Elgar 8
[/quote]
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 18
Messiaen 2
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 4
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 16 ++
Verdi 10
Elgar 6 --
This is getting too absurd to participate in even as a meaningless lark. Everybody would know that Elgar's Pelleas and Melisande is Handel's best opera, if it were cruelly suppressed by the fascists of taste!
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 18
Messiaen 0 --
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 4
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 18 ++
Verdi 10
Elgar 6
Xenakis 10
Past midnight, so I guess I can vote again...
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 18
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 2 (-)
Gorecki 6
Schnittke 20 (HALL OF FAME)
Verdi 10
Elgar 6
Xenakis 10
Add:
Rautavaara 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
Quote from: The Emperor on January 17, 2008, 08:25:12 AM
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
Schumann is in heaven too, ironing out a few issues with Brahms >:D
Quote from: orbital on January 17, 2008, 08:43:26 AM
Schumann is in heaven too, ironing out a few issues with Brahms >:D
Tkx, it's corrected :)
R. Strauss 10
Honegger 18-2=16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 2
Gorecki 6
Verdi 10+2=12
Elgar 6
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 10
R. Strauss 12 +
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 2
Gorecki 6
Verdi 12
Elgar 4 -
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 10
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gluck 0 --
Gorecki 6
Verdi 12
Elgar 4
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 12 ++
add
Gustav Allan Pettersson 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
R. Strauss 12
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6
Verdi 12
Elgar 2--
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 12
Allan Pettersson 12++
R. Strauss 12 + 2 = 14
Honegger 16 - 2 = 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6
Verdi 12
Elgar 2
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 12
Allan Pettersson 12
This has probably been noted before, but we are at a point where some undeserving folks will get into the Hall of Fame as the competition is becoming flabby.
Yeh it had to happen, we all started putting the big names at first.
R. Strauss 14
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6
Verdi 12
Elgar 0 -- (off to Hell)
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 12
Allan Pettersson 14 ++
R. Strauss 14
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6
Verdi 12
Elgar 0
Xenakis 10 + 2 = 12
Rautavaara 12 - 2 = 10
Allan Pettersson 14
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN
PURGATORY - LISZT, HAYDN, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR --->into the purgatory round.
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL
DM insert composer please
R. Strauss 14
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6
Verdi 10 (-)
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 12 (+)
Pettersson 14
Dm - TOO SLOW!!! Hahaha... So I'll take the initiative and add:
(Magnus) Lindberg 10
Sorry, but I couldn't resist. 8)
I'm sure someone else already did this before, earlier in the game.
R. Strauss 14
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6
Verdi 8 (--)
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 14 (++)
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 10
We have competing Finns....
R. Strauss 14
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6
Verdi 8+2=10
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 14-2=12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 10
R. Strauss 14 + 2 = 16
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 6 - 2 = 4
Verdi 10
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 10
R. Strauss 18++
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 2--
Verdi 10
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 10
R. Strauss 18
Honegger 14 + 2 = 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Gorecki 2 - 2 = 0
Verdi 10
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 10
Add Fauré.
Bruckner not in the HoF, wtf is going on here???? OK, I have to rescue Atterberg first...
Scriabin 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 4 + 2 =6
Nørgård 14 - 2 = 12
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
Ives 10
Scriabin 6
R. Schumann 10
Atterberg 6 - 2 = 4
Nørgård 12
Debussy 14
R. Strauss 4 + 2 = 6
Bruckner 10
Copland 10
Frank Martin 10
Ives 10
What? Bruckner is already in the Hall. Who put him in the game again?
Didn't someone just add Fauré?
Atterberg is already out in purgatory.
What are you last two thinking? lolz
I'm afraid but those votes won't count. You have to vote again.
R. Strauss 18
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Verdi 10-2=8
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 10
Fauré 10+2=12
R. Strauss 18
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Verdi 6 (-)
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 12 (+)
Fauré 12
Aagh... Too many good composers to vote for now...
R. Strauss 18
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 10
Verdi 4 (--)
Xenakis 12
Rautavaara 14 (++)
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 12
Fauré 12
R. Strauss 18
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12++
Verdi 4
Xenakis 10--
Rautavaara 14
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 12
Fauré 12
R. Strauss 18
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6++
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 12--
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 12
Fauré 12
R. Strauss 20 +
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 8 -
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 12
Fauré 12
Puccini 10
R. Strauss 20
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 10 +
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 12
Fauré 12
Puccini 8 -
there's really no one to hate on right now :( :'(
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 12 - 2 = 10
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 12
Fauré 12 + 2 = 14
Puccini 8
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4 (-)
Xenakis 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 14 (+)
Fauré 14
Puccini 8
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 8--
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 14
Fauré 16++
Puccini 8
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 8
Rautavaara 12 (++)
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 14
Fauré 14 (--)
Puccini 8
Honegger 16 - 2 = 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 8
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14
Lindberg 14
Faure 14 + 2 = 16
Puccini 8
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 6 -
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14 - 2 = 12
Lindberg 14
Faure 20 +
Puccini 8
I nominate Nielsen
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4+2=6
Xenakis 6
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 12-2=10
Lindberg 14
Nielsen 10
Puccini 8
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4 -
Xenakis 8 +
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 14
Nielsen 10
Puccini 8
New day.
Honegger 14 + 2 = 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 8
Rautavaara 12 - 2 = 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 14
Nielsen 10
Puccini 8
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4 + 2 = 6
Xenakis 8
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 14 - 2 = 12
Nielsen 10
Puccini 8
Honegger 18++
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 6--
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 12
Nielsen 10
Puccini 8
Honegger 18
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4 -
Xenakis 8 +
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 12
Nielsen 10
Puccini 8
Honegger 18
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 8
Rautavaara 12 (++)
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 12
Nielsen 10
Puccini 6 (--)
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN, R.STRAUSS, FAURÉ, HADYN
PURGATORY -
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,LISZT, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR
Honegger 18 - 2 = 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 8
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 12
Nielsen 10 + 2 = 12
Puccini 6
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 8
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 10+2=12
Lindberg 12
Nielsen 12
Puccini 6-2=4
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6+
Xenakis 6-
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 12
Lindberg 12
Nielsen 12
Puccini 4
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 6
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 10-
Lindberg 12
Nielsen 12
Puccini 6+
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 6
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 14 (+)
Nielsen 12
Puccini 4 (-)
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6 + 2 = 8
Xenakis 6
Rautavaara 12 - 2 = 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 14 (+)
Nielsen 12
Puccini 4
Honegger 16
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Xenakis 6
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 16 (+)
Nielsen 12
Puccini 2 (-)
Honegger 18++
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Xenakis 4--
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 12
Puccini 2
Honegger 20++
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Xenakis 4
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 12
Puccini 0--
Add: Ockeghem, Poulenc
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6 (--)
Xenakis 4
Rautavaara 12 (++)
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 12
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Barber 12 - 2 = 10
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 4
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 10
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 12 + 2 = 14
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Barber 10 + 2 = 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Xenakis 4
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 10 - 2 = 8
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 14
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Too late to save Puccini. This game reminds me of something my pool-hustling cousin told me: If you can't shoot good, shoot bad.
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8+
Xenakis 2-
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 14
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Xenakis 2 - 2 = 0
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 14 + 2 = 16
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Add Martinů
Is this supposed to be fun? I couldn't even begin to suggest another function of this thread.
Quote from: Guido on January 22, 2008, 10:51:17 AM
Is this supposed to be fun?
That's for you to decide. ;)
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Martinu 2
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8 -2 = 6
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 16
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Quote from: val on January 23, 2008, 12:46:10 AM
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Martinu 2
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8 -2 = 6
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 16
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
How did Martinů get to two already? He should be at 10.
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Martinu 2
Rautavaara 10 (-)
Pettersson 6
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 16
Ockeghem 12 (+)
Poulenc 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN, R.STRAUSS, FAURÉ, HADYN, HONEGGER
PURGATORY - XENAKIS, PUCCINI
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,LISZT, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR
Martinu has 10 points, next to vote don't forget that.
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6-2=4
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 16
Ockeghem 12
Poulenc 10
Barber 12+2=14
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8-2=6
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson4+2=6
Lindberg 16
Nielsen 16
Ockeghem 12
Poulenc 10
Barber 14
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6
Lindberg 18 (+)
Nielsen 16
Ockeghem 12
Poulenc 10
Barber 12 (-)
Penderecki 12
Verdi 6
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6
Lindberg 18 - 2 = 16
Nielsen 16 + 2 = 18
Ockeghem 12
Poulenc 10
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 8+
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6
Lindberg 14-
Nielsen 18
Ockeghem 12
Poulenc 10
Barber 12
Penderecki 10 (-)
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6
Lindberg 14
Nielsen 20 (+)
Ockeghem 12
Poulenc 10
Barber 12
Add Britten
Penderecki 10
Verdi 10 +
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6
Lindberg 14
Ockeghem 10 -
Poulenc 10
Barber 12
Britten 10
Penderecki 10
Verdi 10
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6
Lindberg 14
Ockeghem 8--
Poulenc 10
Barber 14++
Britten 10
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN, R.STRAUSS, FAURÉ, HADYN, HONEGGER, NIELSEN
PURGATORY - XENAKIS, PUCCINI
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,LISZT, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR
Penderecki 10
Verdi 10-2=8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 10
Pettersson 6+2=8
Lindberg 14
Ockeghem 8
Poulenc 10
Barber 14
Britten 10
Penderecki 10
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12 (++)
Pettersson 8
Lindberg 14
Ockeghem 8
Poulenc 10
Barber 14
Britten 8 (--)
Penderecki 10
Verdi 6 (-)
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8
Lindberg 16 (+)
Ockeghem 8
Poulenc 10
Barber 14
Britten 8
Penderecki 10
Verdi 6 + 2 = 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8 - 2 = 6
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 8
Poulenc 10
Barber 14
Britten 8
Penderecki 10 - 2 = 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 6 + 2 = 8
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 8
Poulenc 10
Barber 14
Britten 8
This game has gotten silly a long time ago. You will end up with a large amount of great composers in Hell (because of being pitted against Bach and Beethoven), and a lot of mediocrities in The hall of Fame (because they are pitted against nonentities). We're not completely there yet, but we are getting closer day by day.
Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 6--
Poulenc 10
Barber 16++
Britten 8
Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 8-2=6
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 6
Poulenc 10
Barber 16+2=18
Britten 8
Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 6-2=4
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 6
Poulenc 10
Barber 18+2=20
Britten 8
Add Bellini
Quote from: erato on January 24, 2008, 05:00:03 AM
See?
That's right. Barber is now in the Hall of Fame - that's far better than the music warrants.
Although I've posted regularly on this thread, I think it's time for me to take my leave.
Quote from: Don on January 24, 2008, 09:23:01 AM
That's right. Barber is now in the Hall of Fame - that's far better than the music warrants.
Although I've posted regularly on this thread, I think it's time for me to take my leave.
A good opera, a beautiful "Gesangszene" (Knoxville), a very nice violin concerto, an interesting piano sonata, some good songs, a fine symphony and some fairly interesting other stuff does not an Entry to The all of Fame make.
UPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN, R.STRAUSS, FAURÉ, HADYN, HONEGGER, NIELSEN, BARBER
PURGATORY - XENAKIS, PUCCINI
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,LISZT, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR
Quote from: longears on January 24, 2008, 04:21:57 PM
You put Faure in the hall of fame and have the chutzpah to kick about Barber? Hah! At least you had the decency to nominate Nielsen. As for this game getting silly: WTF? It was silly from the start!
Faure ahead of Barber - that's reasonable. And, yes, the game has always been silly, but it did possess a degree of symmetry that's gone now.
Quote from: erato on January 20, 2008, 01:46:51 PM
Honegger 14
Barber 12
Penderecki 12
Verdi 4
Xenakis 6 -
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 14 - 2 = 12
Lindberg 14
Faure 20 +
Puccini 8
I nominate Nielsen
You put Faure in the hall of fame and have the chutzpah to kick about Barber? Hah! At least you had the decency to nominate Nielsen. As for this game getting silly: WTF? It was silly from the start!
Quote from: Don on January 24, 2008, 09:23:01 AM
That's right. Barber is now in the Hall of Fame - that's far better than the music warrants.
Although I've posted regularly on this thread, I think it's time for me to take my leave.
We got your number long ago, Don. I don't think your taste is quite as poor as this remark suggests, so you must just be ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it--which, of course, doesn't stop you from making such arrogant remarks on this or any of a number of other subjects on which you are equally ill-informed.
No clue about the history of this thing but I can't let Verdi go without a fight. Adding two points to Verdi. Lifting two points from Petterson.
Quote from: longears on January 24, 2008, 04:28:04 PM
We got your number long ago, Don. I don't think your taste is quite as poor as this remark suggests, so you must just be ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it--which, of course, doesn't stop you from making such arrogant remarks on this or any of a number of other subjects on which you are equally ill-informed.
You must be a Barber fanatic to come up with the foolish statements above, especially the stupid comment that if I don't consider Baber worthy of HOF status, I must be "ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it". Try making some sense.
Let's get serious here. Look at the prime names currently in the Hall of Fame - Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Brahms, Mahler, etc. If you believe that Barber deserves to be in that company, that's fine. But expect that many others would consider such designation ridiculous.
As for having someone's number, I can't say that I have yours. In order to do so, I would have to possess some degree of interest in you.
QuoteUPDATE
HALL OF FAME - J.S.BACH, SIBELIUS, BEETHOVEN, MOZART, SHOSTAKOVICH, BRAHMS, RACHMANINOV, TCHAIKOVSKY, PROKOFIEV, SCHUBERT, STRAVINSKY, MUSSORGSKY, MAHLER, BARTOK, NORGARD, DEBUSSY, BRUCKNER, PART, SCHNITTKE, SCHUMANN, R.STRAUSS, FAURÉ, HADYN, HONEGGER, NIELSEN, BARBER
PURGATORY - XENAKIS, PUCCINI
HELL - CHOPIN, RALPH VAUGHAN WILLIAMS, DVORAK, LIGETI, BYRD, BUXTEHUDE, RUBINSTEIN, SCHOENBERG. HANDEL,LISZT, ATTERBERG, SCRIABIN, IVES, MARTIN, COPLAND, MESSIAEN, GLUCK, ELGAR
Democratic process before the American Revolution?
I sense a Boston Tea Party in the making! :o
I'll add 2 to Penderecki. Capriccio is the coolest piece I've ever heard.
Quote from: longears on January 24, 2008, 04:28:04 PM
You put Faure in the hall of fame and have the chutzpah to kick about Barber? Hah! At least you had the decency to nominate Nielsen. As for this game getting silly: WTF? It was silly from the start!
Yes I did. And still find it perfectly reasonable to do so. At least he had some kind of originality as well as importance/significance that I can't see Barber even remotely having. However nice a man he may have been, and however how well kis music may sound. This goes beyond whether one likes their music or not. Read some musical history.
Of the available lot he seemed, along with Honegger, the best bet. But we were already seeing the indications of where it would all end then. And it will get worse.
Chopin and Liszt in Hell! What the Hell?! And Pärt in the HOF... And Pettersson getting is ass kicked by... Penderecki (and all the others)!!! And where the hell is Wagner?! You crazy bastards! ;D
Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 4 - 2 = 2
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 6 + 2 = 8
Poulenc 10
Barber 20
Britten 8
Bellini
Penderecki 8
Verdi 8
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Pettersson 2 - 2 = 0
Lindberg 16
Ockeghem 8 + 2 = 10
Poulenc 10
Barber 20
Britten 8
Bellini 10
Do I get to add someone? Oh goody, add Machaut.
This is just getting too weird now. We should probably stop it soon... once Penderecki, Rautavaara and Lindberg reach the hall of fame of course! ;D
Penderecki 8
Verdi 6 (-)
Martinu 10
Rautavaara 12
Lindberg 18 (+)
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Britten 8
Bellini 10
Machaut 10
Penderecki 8
Verdi 6
Martinu 12 (+)
Rautavaara 12
Lindberg 16 (-)
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Britten 8
Bellini 10
Machaut 10
Quote from: Don on January 24, 2008, 04:47:14 PM
You must be a Barber fanatic to come up with the foolish statements above, especially the stupid comment that if I don't consider Baber worthy of HOF status, I must be "ignorant about his work and prejudiced against it". Try making some sense.
Let's get serious here. Look at the prime names currently in the Hall of Fame - Bach, Mozart, Schubert, Beethoven, Stravinsky, Brahms, Mahler, etc. If you believe that Barber deserves to be in that company, that's fine. But expect that many others would consider such designation ridiculous.
As for having someone's number, I can't say that I have yours. In order to do so, I would have to possess some degree of interest in you.
Yes, let's get serious here: you're mischaracterizing my comments...but that's nothing new.
Yes, let's get serious here: this is a GAME. A pastime that was silly from the start. Anyone taking it seriously needs his head examined.
And let's really get serious here: Very few in my opinion rank with Mozart, Bach, and Beethoven--not Mussorgsky, Bartok, Barber, nor Faure, and certainly not the likes of Schnittke, Norgard, nor Rachmaninoff (no matter how much I might like them). And some of those who've been consigned to hell by other players in this game do not belong there either--once again, in my opinion.
Among the current list of candidates, there is only one who belongs among the ranks of the great: Verdi--but those playing this game have consistently threatened to consign him to the fires of Ghenna. Big deal. I can choose to play today or not. It makes no difference whatsoever except insofar as it amuses me an the others who choose to participate. If you're not amused, the solution is simple: stay away.
Penderecki 8
Verdi 6 +2 = 8
Martinu 12
Rautavaara 12
Lindberg 16 - 2 = 14
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Britten 8
Bellini 10
Machaut 10
;D
;D
Quote from: longears on January 25, 2008, 05:27:19 AM
Yes, let's get serious here: you're mischaracterizing my comments...
If that's correct, you need to do better job of conveying what you mean.
like the way people are now saying "this is ridiculous" as if Barber going into their hallowed hall of fame was the ridiculous part. The ridiculous part is that you are taking this so seriously and have taken it seriously in the past. The ridiculous part is to have a hall of fame of composers and think it's a sensible or worthwhile thing to discuss. The ridiculous part is that you are arguing over whether composers should or should not be in the hall of fame, when you've not defined what is meant by being in the hall of fame, or any other prerequisites for deciding to be in the hall of fame, other than by the mechanics that were divised to make this game work. I actually can't believe that you people have the power to vote in general elections.
Quote from: Guido on January 25, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
I actually can't believe that you people have the power to vote in general elections.
Special elections also. 8)
Quote from: Don on January 25, 2008, 08:18:55 AM
If that's correct, you need to do better job of conveying what you mean.
That's right, it couldn't possibly be that you need to do a better job of reading, interpreting, and thinking.... Good grief, why do guys like you and Sean and Saul always think, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that you have all the answers and anyone who disagrees must be wrong? Did you not get hugged enough as a child? Or could it be that:
(http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/2007/06/14/20070614incompetence.jpg)
Quote from: Guido on January 25, 2008, 10:16:17 AM
like the way people are now saying "this is ridiculous" as if Barber going into their hallowed hall of fame was the ridiculous part. The ridiculous part is that you are taking this so seriously and have taken it seriously in the past. The ridiculous part is to have a hall of fame of composers and think it's a sensible or worthwhile thing to discuss. The ridiculous part is that you are arguing over whether composers should or should not be in the hall of fame, when you've not defined what is meant by being in the hall of fame, or any other prerequisites for deciding to be in the hall of fame, other than by the mechanics that were divised to make this game work. I actually can't believe that you people have the power to vote in general elections.
Makes you wonder if there's a correlation between humorlessness and stupidity, eh? As for the idiocy of voters: my God, man! Have you never seen the boobs offered as candidates? And it might not be possible to underestimate the intelligence of the average voter, as nearly every election I've witnessed proves. Hell, one American political party even specializes in promising pie in the sky to the ignorant, and half the people in the country believe it!
You might be interested in Bryan Caplan's recent
The Myth of the Rational Voter: Why Democracies Choose Bad Politics. According to Louis Menand's recent review in
The New Yorker, Caplan disagrees with those who think the average voter is merely ignorant. Caplan argues that they're not so much ignorant as just plain wrong! But still:
Quote from: MenandThe political knowledge of the average voter has been tested repeatedly, and the scores are impressively low. In polls taken since 1945, a majority of Americans have been unable to name a single branch of government, define the terms "liberal" and "conservative," and explain what the Bill of Rights is. ...apart from ignorance of the basic facts, most people simply do not think politically. They cannot see, for example, that the opinion that taxes should be lower is incompatible with the opinion that there should be more government programs. ...[their] opinions are not based on information or derived from a coherent political philosophy. They are largely attitudinal and ad hoc.
Quote from: longears on January 25, 2008, 06:04:54 PM
That's right, it couldn't possibly be that you need to do a better job of reading, interpreting, and thinking.... Good grief, why do guys like you and Sean and Saul always think, in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that you have all the answers and anyone who disagrees must be wrong?
I'm confident that you are unable to cite any posting of mine about classical music where my comments are contradicted by overwhelming evidence. Your penchant for exaggeration and deception is quite transparent and unbecoming.
Quote from: Don on January 25, 2008, 08:55:19 PM
I'm confident that you are unable to cite any posting of mine about classical music where my comments are contradicted by overwhelming evidence. Your penchant for exaggeration and deception is quite transparent and unbecoming.
Who said anything about your postings re. classical music? You're still not reading very carefully or thinking very clearly, nor showing any signs of the humility that makes learning possible--thus the unflattering comparison to Saul and Sean proves not entirely inaccurate. Doesn't that give you pause?
As for your charges impugning my character: I certainly admit to exaggeration for effect. That's a common rhetorical device and one of the mainsprings of humor. But deception? No way, dude! However, that you think I've "a penchant...for deception" is rather revealing of your own penchant for deception, especially in light of your prior claim that:
Quote from: Don on January 24, 2008, 04:47:14 PM
As for having someone's number, I can't say that I have yours. In order to do so, I would have to possess some degree of interest in you.
You should have left the field after that. Each time you return to engage me only betrays the lie. And it recalls your return to this thread almost immediately after stating that Barber's election to the HOF was such a travesty that it signaled time for you to leave--in a self-righteous, snooty huff, no less! What a hoot! And the really hilarious part is that you take yourself so damned seriously that you don't see the ridiculousness of your own behavior! And come to think of it, that's another trait you share with the aforementioned comrades--a weak sense of humor, crippled by self-importance and the inability to laugh at oneself. Think about it, man! You're never too old to learn!
And now I'd best leave the field to you, while I'm still more amused than riled, lest this exchange turn truly nasty. And speaking of nasty: don't forget to vote early, and vote often! ;)
Quote from: longears on January 25, 2008, 10:12:44 PM
Who said anything about your postings re. classical music? You're still not reading very carefully or thinking very clearly, nor showing any signs of the humility that makes learning possible--thus the unflattering comparison to Saul and Sean proves not entirely inaccurate. Doesn't that give you pause?
As I expected, you offer no citation to support your claim that postings of mine are contradicted by overwhelming evidence, more deception on your part. Also, your attempt to lump me in with Saul and Sean only reveals that you have been unwilling to engage in this communication on a 'one-on-one' basis, feeling the need to use others as part of your arsenal.
As for my weak sense of humor, that's a matter of opinion. Some folks enjoy my sense of humor, others don't. I have no opinion of your sense of humor.
Thinking back, this whole thing between us started when your postings went into attack mode subsequent to my comment that Barber's music was far below HOF status. That seemed to really get under your skin, but I never indicated that Barber was some kind of hack composer or that his music was not worthy of a recorded legacy. As it happens, I have about 15 discs devoted to Barber and give them a spin now and then. I do prefer Creston and Diamond, but I wouldn't place them anywhere near HOF status either.
So, you blew this Barber thing all out of proportion. Just admit it to yourself and get over it.
Penderecki 8
Verdi 8 + 2 = 10
Martinu 12
Rautavaara 12
Lindberg 14 - 2 = 10
Ockeghem 10
Poulenc 10
Britten 8
Bellini 10
Machaut 10
Quote from: val on January 26, 2008, 01:11:39 AM
Lindberg 14 - 2 = 10
I think that's a sign that this thread needs to end...