Nigel - Because I love him
Herman - Cleverest Man Alive
Sidoze - Absurd knowledge of absurd recordings
A man living in England, who had a foreign sounding name, possibly begining with a C, who I once did a joint order with - anyone know who that is?
Who else have I forgotten?
Quote from: Michel on April 26, 2007, 05:03:13 AM
Nigel - Because I love him
Herman - Cleverest Man Alive
Sidoze - Absurd knowledge of absurd recordings
A man living in England, who had a foreign sounding name, possibly begining with a C, who I once did a joint order with - anyone know who that is?
Who else have I forgotten?
I would like to see André jump back on board....not sure as to why he left, but miss his insights. (http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:3aTky1uhSwMqzM:http://www.iconarchive.com/icon/cartoon/smurf-by-pino/PapaSmurf.gif)
Andre is back, he is now called Lilas Pasta.
Mike
... living in England ... foreign-sounding name ... possibly beginning with a C ...
... nope - no idea, sorry.
If people go, it is their choice, for whatever reason.
If they want to come back they will, if not, well that's their choice too.
We have to respect that surely.
Quote from: Harry on April 26, 2007, 06:10:03 AM
If people go, it is their choice, for whatever reason.
If they want to come back they will, if not, well that's their choice too.
We have to respect that surely.
Don't be so upright, its just a bit of fun!
Quote from: Choo Choo on April 26, 2007, 06:05:25 AM
... living in England ... foreign-sounding name ... possibly beginning with a C ...
... nope - no idea, sorry.
Hey, wait a minute, "Choo", that's foreign, isn't it? ???
8)
Quote from: Michel on April 26, 2007, 08:18:24 AM
Don't be so upright, its just a bit of fun!
I have no idea what you mean with upright my friend.
My English is not that good.
Some of the ex members were no fun, not in the least.
So were is the fun in that?
Ach lets leave it at that! :)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 26, 2007, 08:31:03 AM
Hey, wait a minute, "Choo", that's foreign, isn't it? ???
8)
What are you implying? I pay my taxes.
Quote from: Michel on April 26, 2007, 08:18:24 AM
Don't be so upright, its just a bit of fun!
TALK ABOUT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK.....YOU HAVE A SHORT MEMORY....
Quote from: Michel on April 26, 2007, 05:03:13 AM
Nigel - Because I love him
He
is lovable.
And he's back.
Karl, are you still intouch with good old Weirdears.
Has he gone 'on the road' or onto 'pastures new'?
Sporadically, Tony; and it is indeed tempo alta (so to speak) that I give him a jingle again . . . .
Quote from: karlhenning on April 26, 2007, 09:41:18 AM
Sporadically, Tony; and it is indeed tempo alta (so to speak) that I give him a jingle again . . . .
I keep thinking he may pop up on "American Idol" someday, letting his hair down with all that Jazz ;D
Quote from: Choo Choo on April 26, 2007, 08:57:51 AM
What are you implying? I pay my taxes.
(out of curiosity) Where do you live mrs. choo choo ? I was guessing you were native speaker.
It gets worse. What a day I've had. :'(
You're due for some much better days, mon vieux!
Thank you for that thought, Karl.
This morning I booked tickets for the Mozarteum in Salzburg in 3 weeks' time, so that's a start. :D
Quote from: karlhenning on April 26, 2007, 09:35:38 AM
He is lovable.
And he's back.
Is Nigel back? Has he a new name?
Mike
Quote from: knight on April 26, 2007, 11:07:16 AM
Is Nigel back? Has he a new name?
Mike
I thought that Nigel was Choo Choo.
Perhaps that's another Nigel? ???
Yes - Mike is referring to the real Nigel - to whom I am more than happy to defer. :)
The Pink Cat cannot be anything but surreal anyhow
At last - somebody understands ;)
Check yer PM, O Surreal One! 8)
Nigel of UK=pink cats, Nigel of Paris=risque salt shakers ;D
Your point being...? ;D
Quote from: Choo Choo on April 26, 2007, 02:02:50 PM
Your point being...? ;D
Nigel, is it you that we ordered some Great Pianists Series cheap from BRO years ago? Please say so! (And if it is I apologise profusely for forgetting your name!!!!!)
You saw it here first folks....Michel apologising. D
Mike
You lot underestimate him.
Yes indeed mon petit - c'est moi.
Mind you, that was several changes of identity ago, so you have every excuse not to recognise me.
How is your little dog?
Quote from: Choo Choo on April 27, 2007, 12:52:42 AM
You lot underestimate him.
Yes indeed mon petit - c'est moi.
Mind you, that was several changes of identity ago, so you have every excuse not to recognise me.
How is your little dog?
Aha! So Sorry! But the sin still remains of not remembering your display name, then forgetting your real name. What was your display name again?
My little dog, unfortunately, died, actually about this time last year. It was awful; he had a heart attack right next to where this photo below was taken, on the patio. He had actually had emphysema for a little while, and then was on steroids but the strain was all too much. But at least he died quickly and didn't suffer.
(http://img102.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2007/04/27/n552450017683286737-46a479d9l.jpg)
I'm sorry to hear about your dog.
I went through a series of name changes before settling on Choo Choo (The Pink Cat) as it seemed to bring out the worst in people. I also left for a while. At the time we did that BRO order I was probably Chico. Or else J Sheringham Adair (chosen mainly to see how far Karl was getting in his PGW reading.)
Sorry for your loss, Michel!
Quote from: Choo Choo on April 27, 2007, 01:29:51 AM
(chosen mainly to see how far Karl was getting in his PGW reading.)
Tangentially . . . in revisiting
A Fish Called Wanda recently, I was delighted to see Stephen Fry in a walk-on near the end . . . he was a traveller at the airport whom Kevin Kline holds up for his boarding-pass.
Quote from: Michel on April 26, 2007, 05:03:13 AM
A man living in England, who had a foreign sounding name, possibly begining with a C, who I once did a joint order with -
The first timeI read this, this image came to mind:
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7wdfSzBzgCwDEM:http://www.filmhai.de/kino/kinoplakat/bilder_0007/cheech_chong_dauerstress/gallery1/cheech_chong_001.jpg)
;D
Oh, man, Tony, I don tink dey live in England. Man, look at 'em; dey're not dressed for England. Wouldn dey have to wear powdered wigs? Hey! What do dey powder the wigs wit, anyway, man? Far out!
Quote from: Szykniej on April 27, 2007, 09:08:41 AM
The first timeI read this, this image came to mind:
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7wdfSzBzgCwDEM:http://www.filmhai.de/kino/kinoplakat/bilder_0007/cheech_chong_dauerstress/gallery1/cheech_chong_001.jpg)
;D
;D
Quote from: Szykniej on April 27, 2007, 09:08:41 AM
The first timeI read this, this image came to mind:
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7wdfSzBzgCwDEM:http://www.filmhai.de/kino/kinoplakat/bilder_0007/cheech_chong_dauerstress/gallery1/cheech_chong_001.jpg)
;D
It's like looking in a mirror dude 8)
We powder our wigs with the ground-down bones of the exploited masses.
Mike
Quote from: knight on April 27, 2007, 11:13:13 AM
We powder our wigs with the ground-down bones of the exploited masses.
Bring on the farcical aquatic ceremony!
I ran into a great bit of movie dialogue in my reading last night,
Mike . . . I'll try to scare it up and copy it tonight.
Quote from: knight on April 27, 2007, 11:13:13 AM
We powder our wigs with the ground-down bones of the exploited masses.
Mike
(http://www.clarku.edu/~piltdown/map_expose/Image271.gif)
Greetings from Finland !!!
Good to see you again, welcome back.
Mikw
Missed you so much, Lapsang! Very happy to see you back here and hope you'll stay for a long time! :)
Quote from: LapsangS on April 29, 2007, 02:27:04 AM
Greetings from Finland !!!
Are you the one with all those Rach 3 recordings? If so, we have much to discuss.
Welcome either way! :)
Haha, I have only one cd of Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto...
Quote from: LapsangS on April 29, 2007, 01:53:23 PM
Haha, I have only one cd of Rachmaninov's 3rd concerto...
I must bethinking of someone else. Sorry. :)
Quote from: George on April 29, 2007, 02:06:10 PM
I must bethinking of someone else. Sorry. :)
Yeah, you're thinking of Kwoon. He'll come around some day, I reckon. :)
8)
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 29, 2007, 02:47:46 PM
Yeah, you're thinking of Kwoon. He'll come around some day, I reckon. :)
8)
Gurn, do you mean he will 'come around some day' and open some of his cds?
From what I remember, Kwoon liked to look at his collection whilst the wrapper was still on ;D He of the 100's of unopened cds 'cos they look nice.
I would like to see Andy (Haffner) make his return..... (possibly a bit premature, but there you have it. ;D)
Quote from: Bill on April 29, 2007, 03:00:19 PM
I would like to see Andy (Haffner) make his return..... (possibly a bit premature, but there you have it. ;D)
;D
Seconded!
It's not that I wouldn't like to see one or two former members return, but it's the nature of boards like this that folks come and go frequently. I'm satisfied with the flow.
Quote from: Don on May 01, 2007, 01:14:45 PM
It's not that I wouldn't like to see one or two former members return, but it's the nature of boards like this that folks come and go frequently. I'm satisfied with the flow.
Boring! I know what you mean, though.
Has anyone seen Harry? Is he planning to return?
Quote from: karlhenning on April 27, 2007, 11:14:36 AM
Bring on the farcical aquatic ceremony!
I do love that scene. I am giggling just thinking about it. ;D
Quote from: D Minor on May 01, 2007, 02:27:32 PM
Has anyone seen Harry? Is he planning to return?
Harry? Who's Harry? Must be someone from before my time...
Not that the board needs a jump start or anything...
But I'd like to see the return of David Ross.
Quote from: D Minor on May 01, 2007, 02:27:32 PM
Has anyone seen Harry? Is he planning to return?
Your are pulling my leg Sir! :o
Quote from: MrOsa on May 01, 2007, 03:32:31 PM
Harry? Who's Harry? Must be someone from before my time...
And you Govenor, are a helping hand, in league with D
Major minor. $:)
Quote from: donwyn on May 01, 2007, 07:48:47 PM
Not that the board needs a jump start or anything...
But I'd like to see the return of David Ross.
Where die he go? Probably to go and listen to his spineless recordings of Sibelius... ;D
Quote from: Harry on May 01, 2007, 10:18:59 PM
And you Govenor, are a helping hand, in league with D Major minor. $:)
;D
Yes, we must get Nigel back. Perhaps M too, yes he might have upset a few but I enjoyed his informative posts. :-\
Quote from: Siedler on May 05, 2007, 09:03:09 AM
Yes, we must get Nigel back. Perhaps M too, yes he might have upset a few but I enjoyed his informative posts. :-\
M is still busy discussing WWII, etc. etc. etc. at
rmcr (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.classical.recordings/browse_thread/thread/58b97716fbdacf23/c995466f35901c57#c995466f35901c57)
But I agree - he was a very knowledable poster, and really a good bloke too.
Q
Quote from: Que on May 05, 2007, 09:09:32 AM
M is still busy discussing WWII, etc. etc. etc. at rmcr (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.music.classical.recordings/browse_thread/thread/58b97716fbdacf23/c995466f35901c57#c995466f35901c57)
But I agree - he was a very knowledable poster, and really a good bloke too.
Q
You must be out of your mind saying that Que, M was definitively not a nice person, and I wonder that you have forgotten his aggresive and arrogant posts.
No I don't want him back, no I don't.
Quote from: Siedler on May 05, 2007, 09:03:09 AM
Yes, we must get Nigel back. Perhaps M too, yes he might have upset a few but I enjoyed his informative posts. :-\
Nigel is back under a different name,
Choo choo
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 09:12:18 AM
You must be out of your mind saying that Que, M was definitively not a nice person, and I wonder that you have forgotten his aggresive and arrogant posts.
No I don't want him back, no I don't.
I agree with you Harry, we already have some back that were as bad or not worse than M was.....
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 09:12:18 AM
You must be out of your mind saying that Que, M was definitively not a nice person, and I wonder that you have forgotten his aggresive and arrogant posts.
No I don't want him back, no I don't.
No, I haven't forgot,
Harry. :)
And I did not imply that I want him back - so please keep your shirt on! ;D
But besides the serious flaws you mentioned, he had a lot of interesting things to tell about music.
And he had a soft spot too - as I discovered in some direct contact with him.
Q
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 09:13:05 AM
Nigel is back under a different name, Choo choo
Sorry, Harry - but No. The
real Nigel has not returned (as far as I know.) I thought we had clarified: I am the
surreal Nigel, and a Cat of
completely different color.
I also would like to echo Que's last remark. I too found M very approachable in private communications. Yes, he was/is as abrasive as all hell - but he knew/knows a hell of a lot ... and he often made me laugh. Nobody could puncture pretensions quite as quickly (and brutally) as M - and on occasion, one has to say, it was well deserved. Watching him go ballistic could be very entertaining.
Quote from: Robert on May 05, 2007, 09:16:49 AM
I agree with you Harry, we already have some back that were as bad or not worse than M was.....
Absolutely true Robert!
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 09:56:24 AM
Watching him go ballistic could be very entertaining.
Not for some people who felt obliged to leave the Forum.
What use is knowledge if it is applied with such abusive force.
No, and again no, against such obnoxious people like M.
You all forget the negative things about this guy, no good of him could compensate for the pain he caused.
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 10:13:04 AM
Not for some people who felt obliged to leave the Forum.
What use is knowledge if it is applied with such abusive force.
No, and again no, against such obnoxious people like M.
You all forget the negative things about this guy, no good of him could compensate for the pain he caused.
Except him being banned. 0:)
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 09:56:24 AM
Sorry, Harry - but No. The real Nigel has not returned (as far as I know.) I thought we had clarified: I am the surreal Nigel, and a Cat of completely different color.
I also would like to echo Que's last remark. I too found M very approachable in private communications. Yes, he was/is as abrasive as all hell - but he knew/knows a hell of a lot ... and he often made me laugh. Nobody could puncture pretensions quite as quickly (and brutally) as M - and on occasion, one has to say, it was well deserved. Watching him go ballistic could be very entertaining.
I for one am not looking for that type of entertaiment. I only know that over the last few months since all those aggresive immature types were gone the forum had a nice feel to it....the energy seemed to be constant....no anger, no fighting...no spikes...
Quote from: George on May 05, 2007, 10:14:43 AM
Except him being banned. 0:)
And that was a good thing!
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 10:13:04 AM
Not for some people who felt obliged to leave the Forum.
What use is knowledge if it is applied with such abusive force.
No, and again no, against such obnoxious people like M.
You all forget the negative things about this guy, no good of him could compensate for the pain he caused.
Harry, I am not wishing to make a major point here, and I do understand (I think) your attitude. I was on the receiving end of M's bile more than once, and it certainly wasn't a comfortable experience. However I was prepared to co-exist with him, for some of the genuine insights which he brought.
I would also
very gently like to remind you that it was M's banishment which finally triggered the
real Nigel's departure from the forum. I am only surmising - and he is not here to confirm or deny - but, based on his final post, I got the distinct impression that Nigel felt M's banishment to be evidence of a small-mindedness which he didn't want to be part of.
Quote from: Robert on May 05, 2007, 10:18:36 AM
I for one am not looking for that type of entertaiment. I only know that over the last few months since all those aggresive immature types were gone the forum had a nice feel to it....the energy seemed to be constant....no anger, no fighting...no spikes...
I absolutely agree, Robert. :)
Quote from: Robert on May 05, 2007, 10:18:36 AM
I for one am not looking for that type of entertaiment. I only know that over the last few months since all those aggresive immature types were gone the forum had a nice feel to it....the energy seemed to be constant....no anger, no fighting...no spikes...
It almost was like heaven! 0:)
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 10:21:21 AM
Harry, I am not wishing to make a major point here, and I do understand (I think) your attitude. I was on the receiving end of M's bile more than once, and it certainly wasn't a comfortable experience. However I was prepared to co-exist with him, for some of the genuine insights which he brought.
M Forever can be reached via email through RMCR (link appears earlier in this thread). I emailed him recently and he was most helpful and knowledgable as usual, but not abusive.
Ever notice in high school that the bullies weren't mean when others weren't around? I think there's something similar with M.
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 10:21:40 AM
It almost was like heaven! 0:)
You mean "is" not "was" right?
If so, I agree. :)
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 10:21:21 AM
Harry, I am not wishing to make a major point here, and I do understand (I think) your attitude. I was on the receiving end of M's bile more than once, and it certainly wasn't a comfortable experience. However I was prepared to co-exist with him, for some of the genuine insights which he brought.
I would also very gently like to remind you that it was M's banishment which finally triggered the real Nigel's departure from the forum. I am only surmising - and he is not here to confirm or deny - but, based on his final post, I got the distinct impression that Nigel felt M's banishment to be evidence of a small-mindedness which he didn't want to be part of.
It was Nigel's choice to go, I respect that. But it was not small mindedness on the part of GMG members or our Dungeon master, that forced Nigel to go. That was his interpretation of the situation, and was a flawed one IMO.
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 10:27:41 AM
It was Nigel's choice to go, I respect that. But it was not small mindedness on the part of GMG members or our Dungeon master, that forced Nigel to go. That was his interpretation of the situation, and was a flawed one IMO.
Yes, when rules aren't enforced, their existence becomes pointless.
Quote from: George on May 05, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
M Forever can be reached via email through RMCR (link appears earlier in this thread). I emailed him recently and he was most helpful and knowledgable as usual, but not abusive.
Ever notice in high school that the bullies weren't mean when others weren't around? I think there's something similar with M.
Major signs of insecurity......
Quote from: Harry on May 05, 2007, 10:21:40 AM
It almost was like heaven! 0:)
And is now as dull as I see heaven to be - if I were a believer in that fiction! 8)
Quote from: uffeviking on May 05, 2007, 10:34:23 AM
And is now as dull as I see heaven to be - if I were a believer in that fiction! 8)
sounds to me like your looking for some action.... :-*
Quote from: uffeviking on May 05, 2007, 10:34:23 AM
And is now as dull as I see heaven to be - if I were a believer in that fiction! 8)
;D
Well I was wondering who
these individuals are:
Quote from: Robert on May 05, 2007, 09:16:49 AM
I agree with you Harry, we already have some back that were as bad or not worse than M was.....
Because I haven't seen them. (Unless of course you're talking about me ???)
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 11:15:17 AM
Well I was wondering who these individuals are:
Because I haven't seen them. (Unless of course you're talking about me ???)
I always say "LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE" and also "LEOPARD DO NOT CHANGE THERE SPOTS"
Quote from: Robert on May 05, 2007, 11:39:54 AM
I always say "LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE" and also "LEOPARD DO NOT CHANGE THERE SPOTS"
Unless they change them here
Quote from: Robert on May 05, 2007, 11:39:54 AM
I always say "LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE" and also "LEOPARD DO NOT CHANGE THERE SPOTS"
This is a bit cryptic for me. I can only suppose you must be referring to
Lilas Pastia - who I agree is a most dreadful hooligan.
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 11:46:40 AM
I can only suppose you must be referring to Lilas Pastia - who I agree is a most dreadful hooligan.
Ruiner of taverns on a massive scale
And the language...! :o Dear God.
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 09:56:24 AM
Sorry, Harry - but No. The real Nigel has not returned
and if he should choose to return - which I doubt, unless certain rules change - he will return under his own name, not hiding behind some pseudonym! ;)
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 05, 2007, 09:56:24 AM
Nobody could puncture pretensions quite as quickly (and brutally) as M - and on occasion, one has to say, it was well deserved.
Some of us were equally adept at puncturing
M's pretensions...
And speaking of well deserved...!
(http://members.tripod.com/sweetie_pie589/tweety_in_tree.gif)
I tawt I taw an ego flying . I did, I did see a flying ego.
Nigel left for a number of reasons, not just the banning of certain members, though that is what he deplored most - especially, I think, when the choice of those who were banned, tended to be those who were most outspoken, not necessarily though who were most malicious, for example.
Quote from: Michel on May 06, 2007, 06:53:26 AM
Nigel left for a number of reasons, not just the banning of certain members, though that is what he deplored most - especially, I think, when the choice of those who were banned, tended to be those who were most outspoken, not necessarily though who were most malicious, for example.
I always had the impression that banishment has been quite exceptional, and that
M was either the only one or one of very few ever to be banished?
Q
From one of the (I think) last posts of his, did this have anything to do with the banishing?
http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,12232.msg362907.html#msg362907 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,12232.msg362907.html#msg362907)
He was really not nice to Sarge there...
Quote from: Que on May 06, 2007, 07:07:06 AM
I always had the impression that banishment has been quite exceptional, and that M was either the only one or one of very few ever to be banished?
Q
Moreover, I have noticed that since this banishment took place, the behavior of those who post here has greatly improved. :)
Quote from: Que on May 06, 2007, 07:07:06 AM
I always had the impression that banishment has been quite exceptional, and that M was either the only one or one of very few ever to be banished?
One other person too *cough* 0:)
Quote from: Greta on May 06, 2007, 07:41:24 AM
From one of the (I think) last posts of his, did this have anything to do with the banishing?
http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,12232.msg362907.html#msg362907 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,12232.msg362907.html#msg362907)
He was really not nice to Sarge there...
If you look up a lot of other things posted by M you will get the picture (that linked post was not unique). I thought M was great, though.
Yes, so did I.
One of life's conspiracy theorists - and blindingly quick to detect a slight on his character or nationality (usually imaginary) - but I liked him (a lot.) So what if he called me an ignorant philistine and declared eternal enmity based on my expressing a liking for a certain conductor in a certain work (can't remember which.) I've had a lot worse - and what's more, from people who actually meant it.
Yes - bring back M, say I!
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 08, 2007, 04:52:55 PM
Yes, so did I.
One of life's conspiracy theorists - and blindingly quick to detect a slight on his character or nationality (usually imaginary) - but I liked him (a lot.) So what if he called me an ignorant philistine and declared eternal enmity based on my expressing a liking for a certain conductor in a certain work (can't remember which.) I've had a lot worse - and what's more, from people who actually meant it.
Yes - bring back M, say I!
Just how many M attacks were you subject to, Choo Choo?
I don't recall you being around much on the old board and hence were rather insulated from his maulings.
Those who weren't so lucky DON'T share your enthusiasm. It's darn near an affront, really, to cheerlead like this.
M got HIMSELF banned. Right? Or is he simply the innocent, here?
That seems to be the implication...that we're all too uptight and ran him out.
Wrong.
M is his own worst enemy. He did himself in.
Period.
However, this is all really moot as M has an open invitation to return to GMG any time he wants. No one's banned anymore, remember?
Let him come back. If he doesn't, that's his choice.
Otherwise...good folks, give this a rest for crying out loud....
Quote from: Michel on May 06, 2007, 06:53:26 AM
Nigel left for a number of reasons, not just the banning of certain members, though that is what he deplored most - especially, I think, when the choice of those who were banned, tended to be those who were most outspoken, not necessarily though who were most malicious, for example.
you should know....
Quote from: donwyn on May 08, 2007, 05:20:05 PM
Just how many M attacks were you subject to, Choo Choo?
I don't recall you being around much on the old board and hence were rather insulated from his maulings.
Those who weren't so lucky DON'T share your enthusiasm. It's darn near an affront, really, to cheerlead like this.
M got HIMSELF banned. Right? Or is he simply the innocent, here?
That seems to be the implication...that we're all too uptight and ran him out.
Wrong.
M is his own worst enemy. He did himself in.
Period.
However, this is all really moot as M has an open invitation to return to GMG any time he wants. No one's banned anymore, remember?
Let him come back. If he doesn't, that's his choice.
Otherwise...good folks, give this a rest for crying out loud....
BIG MISTAKE.......
Quote from: Robert on May 08, 2007, 05:25:09 PM
You are correct...I am just waiting......I am starting to see some signs......the arrogance seems to be building in some posts......tick tick tick tick tick tick tick tick,
(http://mousestitching.com/wp-content/plugins/more-smilies/graemlins/impatient.gif)
Quote from: donwyn on May 08, 2007, 05:20:05 PM
However, this is all really moot as M has an open invitation to return to GMG any time he wants. No one's banned anymore, remember?
Absolutely. If M chooses to come back, that's fine (by me) - and if he doesn't, that's also fine (by me).
I just wanted to make the point, that not everybody thinks it's desirable to have an environment where conflict is forbidden.
You may not remember me, but I
was around. That you didn't notice me does not surprise me at all.
I had my run-ins with M. And you know what sticks in my mind? One time I posted something about a piece of music which I thought I knew well - and M responded, not offensively, but forcibly, to point out a mistake I'd made - so I checked. And you know what?
He was right. So I posted an acknowledgement of that. And you know what? He was gracious about it. I wish all who post here could show such graciousness. I have had much less generous treatment from some of those who are here today.
So yes - I would like to see M return. If he feels like it. If not, then fine.
Quote from: Robert on May 08, 2007, 06:30:10 PM
I DO NOT NEED THAT KIND OF ANGER HERE OR ANYWHERE.
In case he does come back here, the best way for you to avoid getting angered is to scroll past his posts. It's as simple as an index finger on the scroll bar! ;D
I don't understand why you feel so angry about this, and I don't wish to increase that anger.
But the point you seem to be missing is this: I don't mind (in the least) the way that M used to behave, because I know that there is no malice behind it. It is just the way he is. You have to discount the outward display. Behind it is a person of real value.
There are people in the forum today who offend me far more deeply than M ever did. People who posted offensive remarks directed personally at me - yes, even little me. One time, I posted a mild remark, not signifying very much, about a well-known piece of music - to which one individual chose to post something highly personal, derogatory and insulting. That person has been posting here today.
I repeat: bring back M!
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 08, 2007, 06:04:26 PM
Absolutely. If M chooses to come back, that's fine (by me) - and if he doesn't, that's also fine (by me).
Hmm...I hadn't noticed the neutrality before...
QuoteI just wanted to make the point, that not everybody thinks it's desirable to have an environment where conflict is forbidden.
Then what would be so wrong with my disagreeing with you?
QuoteYou may not remember me, but I was around. That you didn't notice me does not surprise me at all.
I
do remember you. I
don't remember you being a target for M's concentrated attacks like others were.
QuoteI had my run-ins with M. And you know what sticks in my mind? One time I posted something about a piece of music which I thought I knew well - and M responded, not offensively, but forcibly, to point out a mistake I'd made - so I checked. And you know what? He was right. So I posted an acknowledgement of that. And you know what? He was gracious about it. I wish all who post here could show such graciousness.
But that changes NOTHING as far as M's maliciousness towards other posters!!!!!!!!
QuoteI have had much less generous treatment from some of those who are here today.
But I though a conflict-free environment was deplorable to you? ;D
QuoteSo yes - I would like to see M return. If he feels like it. If not, then fine.
You can always look
him up, no?? ;D
Quote from: uffeviking on May 08, 2007, 06:37:55 PM
In case he does come back here, the best way for you to avoid getting angered is to scroll past his posts. It's as simple as an index finger on the scroll bar! ;D
I always let my fingers do the walking.....
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 08, 2007, 06:48:02 PM
I don't understand why you feel so angry about this, and I don't wish to increase that anger.
But the point you seem to be missing is this: I don't mind (in the least) the way that M used to behave, because I know that there is no malice behind it. It is just the way he is. You have to discount the outward display. Behind it is a person of real value.
There are people in the forum today who offend me far more deeply than M ever did. People who posted offensive remarks directed personally at me - yes, even little me. One time, I posted a mild remark, not signifying very much, about a well-known piece of music - to which one individual chose to post something highly personal, derogatory and insulting. That person has been posting here today.
I repeat: bring back M!
What is the point of this?
"I'm immune to M but it's true I get offended by others"...?
You've lost me...
Seems to me if you're harbouring resentment (maybe too harsh a word...) for someone on GMG then you MUST know how some of us feel about M!!!!!!
Besides, like I said, if you deplore "conflict-free" environments then why in the world would you be offended by a GMGer snipping at you?
I would think this would be right up your alley! ;D ;D
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 08, 2007, 06:04:26 PM
I just wanted to make the point, that not everybody thinks it's desirable to have an environment where conflict is forbidden.
So how're you and I doing, conflict-wise? ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Robert on May 08, 2007, 06:30:10 PM
don't you think that answering not offensively is a normal thing...I don't quite understand where your coming from....Your saying that because he answered normally that makes all his arrogance and anger o.k. ?? I DON'T AND DON'T MIND SAYING I HOPE HE DOES NOT COME BACK...PERIOD...I DO NOT NEED THAT KIND OF ANGER HERE OR ANYWHERE. AS IT IS WE STILL HAVE SOME BACK THAT WE HAVE TO BABY SIT FOR......
Is Saul back?
Quote from: donwyn on May 08, 2007, 05:20:05 PM
Just how many M attacks were you subject to, Choo Choo?
I don't recall you being around much on the old board and hence were rather insulated from his maulings.
Those who weren't so lucky DON'T share your enthusiasm. It's darn near an affront, really, to cheerlead like this.
M got HIMSELF banned. Right? Or is he simply the innocent, here?
That seems to be the implication...that we're all too uptight and ran him out.
Wrong.
M is his own worst enemy. He did himself in.
Period.
However, this is all really moot as M has an open invitation to return to GMG any time he wants. No one's banned anymore, remember?
Let him come back. If he doesn't, that's his choice.
Otherwise...good folks, give this a rest for crying out loud....
I fully agree with Donwyn here, a affront it is.
Quote from: uffeviking on May 08, 2007, 06:37:55 PM
In case he does come back here, the best way for you to avoid getting angered is to scroll past his posts. It's as simple as an index finger on the scroll bar! ;D
But not always that easy
Lis.Yoda
Quote from: donwyn on May 08, 2007, 08:14:11 PM
So how're you and I doing, conflict-wise? ;D ;D ;D
We're doing fine.
Look. I don't care whether M returns or not. That's up to him. But I do care about being somewhere that doesn't have room for someone like him. Because -
in my experience - he was not the worst. What it's looking like to me is:
does your face fit? If his doesn't, then maybe mine doesn't either.
Quote from: Choo Choo on May 09, 2007, 12:45:38 AM
What it's looking like to me is: does your face fit?
All I ask is that the mug doesn't bite!
I was wondering if Michel was M...probably not.
On the question of former valued members, well this just seems to be just another example of the trend in anything in the arts today- things tend to deteriorate.
But another thought is that when people who're very knowledgeable in particular areas are through with strutting their stuff, and indeed there were some extremely knowledgeable and extended threads on the old forum, the motive falls a little. The quality here derives from many members actually have something to say... It'd be nice for them to stick around for socializing though.
Michel and M are two completely different people.
Mike
I just worked that out too.
Quote from: Sean on May 10, 2007, 10:15:23 AM
I just worked that out too.
You're clearly a genius.
- and I am very happy to have both geniuses back: Michel :-* and Sean! :-*
Quote from: uffeviking on May 10, 2007, 02:53:56 PM
- and I am very happy to have both geniuses back: Michel :-* and Sean! :-*
Uffe, you must check out the emoticon thread in the diner, but wait - remember, I did not see this post prior to my post on that thread. ;D
Quote from: Greta on May 06, 2007, 07:41:24 AM
From one of the (I think) last posts of his, did this have anything to do with the banishing?
http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,12232.msg362907.html#msg362907 (http://www.good-music-guide.com/forum/index.php/topic,12232.msg362907.html#msg362907)
He was really not nice to Sarge there...
Agreed.
But it was far from being one his most insulting and rude posts.
Quote from: uffeviking on May 08, 2007, 06:37:55 PM
In case he does come back here, the best way for you to avoid getting angered is to scroll past his posts. It's as simple as an index finger on the scroll bar! ;D
Exactly.
Which is one reason why I never, ever complain of, report or wish the banishment of any member because, and it may be stating the bleeding obvious, you can always ignore them.
It needs to be said.
Quote from: George on May 05, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
Ever notice in high school that the bullies weren't mean when others weren't around? I think there's something similar with M.
ofc they weren't bullying when other weren't around. Logical....they have to show others how superior they are to others even if they are mentally unstable and abrupt. I haven't read much of M's posts but if he is similar to bullies then there is nothing good about him. Just ignorance...
May have been already mentioned, but has anyone heard from KevinP (pipe avatar) or Dana (Bing Crosby avatar)?
Calling Mark and paulb :)
Calling Larry Rinkel, godammit. ;D
I enjoyed reading Choo Choo's posts...
Quote from: MN Brahms on April 30, 2008, 09:12:40 AM
Calling Larry Rinkel, godammit. ;D
Indeed .......... Calling Larry! ..........
Quote from: Dm on April 30, 2008, 07:36:58 PM
Indeed .......... Calling Larry! ..........
Make sure to pick up a telephone, not a beehive.
(http://gardenplotter.com/rospo/blog/uploaded_images/Beehives-746767.jpg)
That's where you will find Nigel Wilkinson:
http://operafriendsinexile.yuku.com/
8)
Quote from: uffeviking on May 01, 2008, 12:37:49 AM
That's where you will find Nigel Wilkinson:
http://operafriendsinexile.yuku.com/
8)
While I do miss Larry, etc. (not all of those missing nowadays, of course), Nigel is the one I miss the most. But all in all, I think the forum is good enough to be fine without any specific members.
Quote from: Dm on April 30, 2008, 07:36:58 PM
Indeed .......... Calling Larry! ..........
Yes, a big loss!
Quote from: springrite on May 01, 2008, 12:47:55 AM
While I do miss Larry, etc. (not all of those missing nowadays, of course), Nigel is the one I miss the most. But all in all, I think the forum is good enough to be fine without any specific members.
Larry I do miss not, Nigel was always fun, until he turned against me, and in general I think the site is doing well enough without specific members, as Paul said.
My view is that it's best left to the individual to decide whether to return to a Forum, and not to be subject to any kind of appeal to return by still current colleagues. I can think of at least four categories:
1. Some former members might have fitted in very well at the time of their earlier involvement due to a set of favourable circumstances, but those circumstances may no longer be applicable should they return some time later. I can think of several cases elsewhere (I won't mention specific details) where former shining lights of a forum left for several months and then returned but only to find that the whole scene had shifted in terms of emphasis of subjects, age structure of membership, and knowledge levels of other participants. Invariably those returning individuals didn't re-settle and their return was short-lived.
2. Some people can become very much enamoured of music Boards and their close involvement becomes an important part of their life, more so than these people may have let on or been apparent to their colleages. For some of these individuals, after a while they begin to realise that they're going often round in circles, repeating what they've said before, and generally not learning much that can't be more reliably learned from other sources. In other words, they get bored and find other outlets for their spare time.
3. Another category comprises the rather sad loner who may appear only slightly unhinged whilst babbling away on here, but who suddenly needs hospitalisation for psychiactric treatment. I would say there are clearly one or two in that category on this Forum from my observations.
4. Yet others may realise, after a while, that they really know virtually damn all about music when it comes to brass tacks, and can't compete with the few professionals here, and rather than risk exposing their true ignorance they quit whilst the going is good.
Quote from: Topaz on May 01, 2008, 01:57:02 AM
My view is that it's best left to the individual to decide whether to return to a Forum, and not to be subject to any kind of appeal to return by still current colleagues. I can think of at least four categories:
1. Some former members might have fitted in very well at the time of their earlier involvement due to a set of favourable circumstances, but those circumstances may no longer be applicable should they return some time later. I can think of several cases elsewhere (I won't mention specific details) where former shining lights of a forum left for several months and then returned but only to find that the whole scene had shifted in terms of emphasis of subjects, age structure of membership, and knowledge levels of other participants. Invariably those returning individuals didn't re-settle and their return was short-lived.
2. Some people can become very much enamoured of music Boards and their close involvement becomes an important part of their life, more so than these people may have let on or been apparent to their colleages. For some of these individuals, after a while they begin to realise that they're going often round in circles, repeating what they've said before, and generally not learning much that can't be more reliably learned from other sources. In other words, they get bored and find other outlets for their spare time.
3. Another category comprises the rather sad loner who may appear only slightly unhinged whilst babbling away on here, but who suddenly needs hospitalisation for psychiactric treatment. I would say there are clearly one or two in that category on this Forum from my observations.
4. Yet others may realise, after a while, that they really know virtually damn all about music when it comes to brass tacks, and can't compete with the few professionals here, and rather than risk exposing their true ignorance they quit whilst the going is good.
Care to name names, or do you prefer to proceed by innuendo and backstabbing?
Quote from: Sforzando on May 01, 2008, 04:04:39 AM
Care to name names, or do you prefer to proceed by innuendo and backstabbing?
Nicely done.
Quote from: Topaz on May 01, 2008, 01:57:02 AM
My view is that it's best left to the individual to decide whether to return to a Forum, and not to be subject to any kind of appeal to return by still current colleagues. I can think of at least four categories:
1. Some former members might have fitted in very well at the time of their earlier involvement due to a set of favourable circumstances, but those circumstances may no longer be applicable should they return some time later. I can think of several cases elsewhere (I won't mention specific details) where former shining lights of a forum left for several months and then returned but only to find that the whole scene had shifted in terms of emphasis of subjects, age structure of membership, and knowledge levels of other participants. Invariably those returning individuals didn't re-settle and their return was short-lived.
2. Some people can become very much enamoured of music Boards and their close involvement becomes an important part of their life, more so than these people may have let on or been apparent to their colleages. For some of these individuals, after a while they begin to realise that they're going often round in circles, repeating what they've said before, and generally not learning much that can't be more reliably learned from other sources. In other words, they get bored and find other outlets for their spare time.
3. Another category comprises the rather sad loner who may appear only slightly unhinged whilst babbling away on here, but who suddenly needs hospitalisation for psychiactric treatment. I would say there are clearly one or two in that category on this Forum from my observations.
4. Yet others may realise, after a while, that they really know virtually damn all about music when it comes to brass tacks, and can't compete with the few professionals here, and rather than risk exposing their true ignorance they quit whilst the going is good.
uhhhhhhhhhh what?
you mean it's actually that complex?
wow, i had no clue.
Quote from: GGGGRRREEG on May 01, 2008, 06:50:49 AM
uhhhhhhhhhh what?
you mean it's actually that complex?
wow, i had no clue.
He probably even has you categorized, Greg.
Quote from: MN Brahms on May 01, 2008, 06:51:52 AM
He probably even has you categorized, Greg.
Just "probably"?
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2148.0.html
No one escapes the calumny of our self-appointed judge and jury. We're all a bunch of stupid phonies.
Quote from: Sforzando on May 01, 2008, 07:12:58 AM
Just "probably"?
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2148.0.html
No one escapes the calumny of our self-appointed judge and jury. We're all a bunch of stupid phonies.
I remember that thread. Although I can't figure out which category i fall under. ???
(i think it was some sort of mix between 2 or 3 of them)
Quote from: Sforzando on May 01, 2008, 07:12:58 AM
No one escapes the calumny of our self-appointed judge and jury. We're all a bunch of stupid phonies.
;D ;D
That list had some really funny ones. ;D
I'm surprised there wasn't one for "Spelling police"
I can't find any reason to or don't know how to refute your point, so I'll insult you on your improper spelling to denigrate you and make you look like you don't know what you're talking about.
Quote from: ChamberNut on May 01, 2008, 08:10:33 AM
That list had some really funny ones. ;D
I'm surprised there wasn't one for "Spelling police"
I can't find any reason to or don't know who to refute your point, so I'll insult you on your improper spelling to denigrate you and make you look like you don't know what you're talking about.
You mean 'how'. Loser.
(;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* implied, I hope you understand)
Quote from: Sforzando on May 01, 2008, 07:12:58 AM
Just "probably"?
http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2148.0.html
No one escapes the calumny of our self-appointed judge and jury. We're all a bunch of stupid phonies.
The A-Z list I drew up last year was my tongue-in-cheek attempt at parodying all the poster types I had come across on various music Forums which I used to frequent, as supplemented by my early experience here. As you will see, there are "normal" categories A & B, and I'm happy to say that all of the recent posters in this thread fall into those categories. However, I can assure you that I have come across characters who fit into one or more of the other categories. I'm sure you will spot a few you may recognise if you work down the list.
It's perhaps worth adding that this Forum doesn't seem to attract quite so many loonies as I've seen elsewhere. The reason for this, I guess, is that they wouldn't be so easily tolerated, as peer pressure would tend to expedite their early departure. On some other sites, where the clientele was less sophisticated, the loonies seemed to be tolerated for far longer partly because the normal members didn't have the nerve or knowledge to tackle them, and in some cases the Mods, for a variety of rather peculiar reasons, tended to protect their rights to continue spewing nonsense.
Returning to the main subject of this thread, I was merely saying that in my opinion it seems naïve to organise a "campaign" to get people back who suddenly left without explanation. In order to clarify this further, and broadly consistent with my analysis of poster-types, I offered some explanations as to why people disappear, and why it is probably not worthwhile trying to get them back in the form of a "campaign" as such. If this taxes any of your intellects I'll know next time not to write anything so complex. I hope this clarifies the matter.
Quote from: lukeottevanger on May 01, 2008, 08:51:01 AM
You mean 'how'. Loser.
(;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* implied, I hope you understand)
Oh boy, I fell right into that one didn't I. :D
Oh, like a sack of wet sand.
Speaking as somewhat of an "old member," I must say how shocked I am at the vindictive bent of the subject header . . . .
But that would be faulty punctuation again, wouldn't it, Karl? Surely it would need to be 'Campaign to get old member's back', wouldn't it? Of course, it might not refer to you, you know.... but watch out behind you just in case!
Keep that old member away from me.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 01, 2008, 09:10:19 AM
Speaking as somewhat of an "old member," I must say how shocked I am at the vindictive bent of the subject header . . . .
Getting some "old members" back would require divine intervention.
Please, no, no more 'members' gags... (http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,6684.msg175841.html#msg175841)
Quote from: Topaz on May 01, 2008, 08:54:06 AM
If this taxes any of your intellects I'll know next time not to write anything so complex.
Thanks for the kind thought, but believe it or not some of us actually understood you the first time.
You call that complex? It was just long and unnecessary.
No one who uses a gemstone as an ID has any jurisdiction to tax my intellect.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 01, 2008, 10:36:07 AM
No one who uses a gemstone as an ID has any jurisdiction to tax my intellect.
MN Diamond
MN Opal
MN Sapphire
Well, we know what New Englanders think of Minnesota...
Minnesota is a choice . . . .
Diamond Dave? :)
Doesn't it seem like all I post are lame jokes now?
Quote from: Corey on May 01, 2008, 10:51:53 AM
Diamond Dave? :)
Doesn't it seem like all I post are lame jokes now?
There's actually someone who calls me that. ;D
Which are of MN are you from Double D? :D
Quote from: ChamberNut on May 01, 2008, 10:56:55 AM
are you ... Double D? :D
I thought we don't discuss size here.
Quote from: ChamberNut on May 01, 2008, 10:56:55 AM
Which are of MN are you from Double D? :D
I'm next to the lake. ;D
Quote from: MN Brahms on May 01, 2008, 10:59:15 AM
I'm next to the lake. ;D
Lake Superior?
Lake of the Woods?
Lake Brahms?
:D
Quote from: ChamberNut on May 01, 2008, 11:07:23 AM
Lake Superior?
Lake of the Woods?
Lake Brahms?
:D
Keep going.
The newly constructed "lake" that used to be part of Gopher Creek.
Lake Wobegon
Quote from: karlhenning on May 01, 2008, 11:25:14 AM
Lake Wobegon
He lives next to the Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Responsibility.
Quote from: karlhenning on May 01, 2008, 11:25:14 AM
Lake Wobegon
Oh,
Prairie Home Companion, the bane of my Sunday work commute.