So we've had where you live, so now let us ask what do you do for a living?
I graduate in 2005 and have worked for nearly two years in business, before deciding I want to practice corporate law. As of this September, therefore, my "profession", will be a law student!
How about you?
I am mainly interested to see whether classical music fans have intellectually demanding jobs.
I qualify as a Social Worker (hopefully) in about a month, so intellectually and socially demanding ;)
Quote from: Michel on May 13, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
So we've had where you live, so now let us ask what do you do for a living?
I graduate in 2005 and have worked for nearly two years in business, before deciding I want to practice corporate law. As of this September, therefore, my "profession", will be a law student!
How about you?
I am mainly interested to see whether classical music fans have intellectually demanding jobs.
I earn my money with non intellectual work. but the main thing is, it brings in loads of money. The intellectual challenge is in classical music my friend.
Quote from: Harry on May 13, 2007, 10:49:45 PM
I earn my money with non intellectual work. but the main thing is, it brings in loads of money. The intellectual challenge is in classical music my friend.
If you are so clever, then, perhaps you could answer the question.
Quote from: Michel on May 13, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
(I am mainly interested )to see whether classical music fans have intellectually demanding jobs.
I do not have a demanding job, so the question is answered by me right?
I'm a biologist.
I'm a HVAC design engineer.
Quote from: Florestan on May 14, 2007, 12:11:05 AM
I'm a HVAC design engineer.
Andrei I have my home full of design, but am at a loss what HVAC means. :)
Quote from: Harry on May 14, 2007, 12:22:28 AM
Andrei I have my home full of design, but am at a loss what HVAC means. :)
Heating
Ventilation
Air-
Conditioning, my friend.
Quote from: Harry on May 13, 2007, 11:14:31 PM
I do not have a demanding job, so the question is answered by me right?
Come on Harry, tell us!
Dust-bin man?
Quote from: Florestan on May 14, 2007, 12:27:00 AM
Heating Ventilation Air-Conditioning, my friend.
Well need to install that in my new home too, so I am glad I know you! :)
Quote from: Harry on May 14, 2007, 12:43:03 AM
Well need to install that in my new home too, so I am glad I know you! :)
It'll be a pleasure to help you. I won't charge you in Euros, but in CDs. :)
Quote from: Florestan on May 14, 2007, 12:53:45 AM
It'll be a pleasure to help you. I won't charge you in Euros, but in CDs. :)
And that would be the complete Brilliant catalogue I guess.................. ;D
Quote from: Harry on May 14, 2007, 01:03:02 AM
And that would be the complete Brilliant catalogue I guess.................. ;D
I'm not that greedy. Half of it will do. :D
Quote from: Florestan on May 14, 2007, 01:05:53 AM
I'm not that greedy. Half of it will do. :D
Have to think about that one though. :)
I'm a civil engineer in chemistry (biotehnology). Right now I work as a quality leader at a big microbiological lab.
If I had the chance to choose again, I would like to work in some of the poor countries in Red Cross, UNHCR or a similar organization. If I had the talent I could be a travel journalist or soccer proffesional :).
Quote from: Michel on May 13, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
I am mainly interested to see whether classical music fans have intellectually demanding jobs.
Demanding yes. I've taught public middle school band for 12 years.
I'm a lead systems engineer for a large publishing firm. I design, build and deliver servers for internal business applications. I love my job (and my iPod!)
Quote from: wintersway on May 14, 2007, 03:41:55 AM
I'm a lead systems engineer for a large publishing firm. I design, build and deliver servers for internal business applications. I love my job (and my iPod!)
What server do you use?
Quote from: Harry on May 14, 2007, 12:42:05 AM
You could call me a trouble shooter, and I work mainly in companies ranging from 5 to 5000 people.
Only come in when the problems can't be solved anymore.
Wolf? :o
Quote from: Michel on May 14, 2007, 03:44:52 AM
What server do you use?
I use Sun & IBM hardware and for OS I use Enterprise Linux (Red Hat), Windows, Solaris.
Quote from: wintersway on May 14, 2007, 04:03:31 AM
I use Sun & IBM hardware and for OS I use Enterprise Linux (Red Hat), Windows, Solaris.
I see, I have worked in Marketing for a little while, you see. For both IBM and Unisys and have done partner projects for Sun.
I always have a slightyl anorakky interest in servers...
Psychiatrist
Spreadsheet Monkey.
Quote from: Todd on May 14, 2007, 05:29:02 AM
Spreadsheet Monkey.
Do you use this to create the most wonderful of all catalogues of your recordings?
Quote from: Michel on May 14, 2007, 05:39:36 AMDo you use this to create the most wonderful of all catalogues of your recordings?
No - I can't type that fast.
Almost neuropsychologist. Actually having the first six month of my apprenticeship at Sant'Anna Hospital in Como, chez the local laboratory of neuropsychology and clinical psychology - department of neurology. I'm planning to complete the apprenticeship somewhere else, Wales or England if I can afford the costs, and then we'll see.
This is Harry at work-- (http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~ifjkl/pics/schauspieler/harvey_keitel.jpg) ;D
He's like it takes half an hour to get there, I'll be there in ten minutes. ;D
Quote from: DavidW on May 14, 2007, 06:13:57 AM
This is Harry at work-- (http://home.tu-clausthal.de/~ifjkl/pics/schauspieler/harvey_keitel.jpg) ;D
He's like it takes half an hour to get there, I'll be there in ten minutes. ;D
You could not be further from the mark my friend! ;D
Still in school and working at a tasty plant that offers pretty good pay (for where I live) with great benefits.
Happily and thankfully retired. 8)
Wedding Photographer
http://www.chrisbligh.co.nz/
Quote from: BorisG on May 14, 2007, 11:47:05 AM
Happily and thankfully retired. 8)
Cool, I can't wait.... ;)
For the time being... unemployed, not looking.
I'm still at University, studying Economics. I have the chance to start working in a bank*, but I don't think I will start soon.
* it comes not from personal skills but from contacts ;D. My parents are friends of the CEO from the largest bank in the province.
Man of leisure - formerly an enforcer.
TV and film setdecorator - propbyer -maker .
Retired now, but was a professional killer, working for Uncle Sam. I have a degree in English Lit but when the choice came down to facing a roomful of adolescents armed only with a book of poetry...or leading similar adolescents up an enemy-held hill through a hail of bullets, I chose the easier job ;D
Sarge
Corporate cog and sometimes fiction writer.
Industrial Safety Manager. Bittersweet sort of job, rewards are nebulous (everyone went home unharmed today), failures are frequently tragic (poor bastard smashed his hand to a pulp...). Demanding? Depends on your personality, I suppose.
8)
student...
I will have my mechanical engineering technologists' diploma in ~4 months. Im not sure about where to bridge though: UBC or UVic. Currently I work for a small company based in Sidney Oceanetic Measurement and at a gas station. I am also about to help doing janitorial work at my church. All this and I'm contemplating training to become a triathlete! :)
Here's their site:
http://www.oceanetic.com/
We are currently assembling ice tracking buoys to monitor the currents of ice up north of Canada. Did you know they can move up to 30km a day? :o
From 1979-1985, a teacher of English at a small mid-Atlantic college.
From 1986 to the present, a technical writer for a software company, also working at various times in quality control, client education, and marketing.
Quote from: Michel on May 13, 2007, 10:37:03 PM
I graduate in 2005 and have worked for nearly two years in business, before deciding I want to practice corporate law. As of this September, therefore, my "profession", will be a law student!
I am a corporate lawyer. What can I do to dissuade you from doing that to your life? Where will you be going to law school?
Quote from: O Mensch on May 15, 2007, 06:30:44 AM
I am a corporate lawyer. What can I do to dissuade you from doing that to your life? Where will you be going to law school?
Are you based in the UK? PM me.
Doing the last few months of school. Afterwards I'm going to study music science for a year, while busting my ass off, so that I get accepted to the Trondheim Conservatory the year after that. *Insert hope smiley*
Change manager! So you're the one can explain to us Yanks how many guineas to the bob, or whatever! 8)
That's right, 21 bob to the guinea...see it is still all at my fingertips.
Mike
Quote from: knight on May 15, 2007, 10:45:13 AM
That's right, 21 bob to the guinea...see it is still all at my fingertips.
I feel confident having you set policy, then! :D
Yes, I am working on bringing back the farthing. It is useful for getting things out of horse's hooves.
Mike
PhD student at The Institute of Literary Research of the Polish Academy of Sciences (http://www.ibl.waw.pl/) (wow! their site really sucks - which is the only reason I'm linking to it, of course ;D)... I should be finishing my thesis this year, perhaps early 2008. Chances of future employment in areas somehow connected to my field (literary theory) are zero to none (in other words: a farthing ;)). Academic positions in Poland are scarce. But we'll see. OK, enough, let's just move on to a happier subject.
Maciek
I have a degree in international and European law and work as a legal advisor at the Legislation Department of the Ministry of Justice.
Q
After a few pages of professions, we can certainly agree GMG is a conjunction of big shots. Not a single janitor or shop clerk. ;D
Quote from: Black Knight on May 15, 2007, 08:03:57 AM
Doing the last few months of school. Afterwards I'm going to study music science for a year, while busting my ass off, so that I get accepted to the Trondheim Conservatory the year after that. *Insert hope smiley*
Could you explain what "music science" is?
Quote from: Manuel on May 16, 2007, 04:33:46 AM
After a few pages of professions, we can certainly agree GMG is a conjunction of big shots. Not a single janitor or shop clerk. ;D
Hopefully they're here, just too bashful to make their presence known... Or else we're just a bunch of elitist losers, hopelessly upholding the belief that music is for everyone...
I used to work as a sort of janitor for a computer company once. It's the sort of job I'll probably come back to once I finish my studies - wouldn't mind it all that much, really. My wife used to be cleaning lady at a bank. She actually misses that job - they paid pretty well and it wasn't very stressful.
Quote from: Shrunk on May 16, 2007, 04:38:42 AM
Could you explain what "music science" is?
I'll hope, acoustics?
Quote from: Manuel on May 16, 2007, 04:33:46 AM
Not a single janitor or shop clerk. ;D
Oh, I'll step into that breach.
Quote from: MrOsa on May 16, 2007, 04:45:35 AM
I used to work as a sort of janitor for a computer company once. It's the sort of job I'll probably come back to once I finish my studies -
I used to be the guy at the 1-800 number that takes note of the problem you have with your cellphone. Getting my degree in Economics may allow me to expand my work span...
for instance, I'll be able to drive a cab.*
*The good thing about economists driving taxis, is that we know exactly
why are driving a cab.
Quote from: Manuel on May 16, 2007, 04:33:46 AM
After a few pages of professions, we can certainly agree GMG is a conjunction of big shots. Not a single janitor or shop clerk. ;D
Apprenticeship for psychologists/neuropsychologists is not remunerated. Furthermore in Italy there's very little space and regard for scientifical research and neuropsychology, since here it's a relatively new and unknown profession.
SInce my app. will last one year, in the part-time I'm a pizza-home-delivery-boy (what's the term?), and I'm looking for another part-time job as hall porter.
Quote from: Manuel on May 16, 2007, 04:33:46 AM
After a few pages of professions, we can certainly agree GMG is a conjunction of big shots. Not a single janitor or shop clerk. ;D
I've been a shop clerk for a decade or so. ;D
First when I was at High School and then during my studies at University.
Q
Still a student here, one more year, studying music and marketing. I want to work in Arts Administration and someday get my grad degree in it.
It seems like arts organizations can use some young enthusiastic advocates these days, so well, I'm hoping I can do my part. :) I would love to work for a symphony or other musical organization when I am done with school, and am looking for internships to this end.
I spent 10 years moving boxes from place to place in a retail warehouse. And unloading lorries in the rain. That'll teach me to leave school without any decent qualifications. But it was character-building and gave me a very strong work ethic.
Then came working nights. For 10 months. It sucked.
Luckily, I managed to convince an advertising agency to hire me as a junior copywriter. That was over eight years ago. Since then, I've won awards, been made redundant, gone freelance, joined another agency and become Head of Copywriting ... and now, I'm freelance again.
On your website, it reads:
"I also do a few other things. As a copywriter, I use words that are right for their audience. As a creative, I look for something original in every brief. And with experience of teaching others the basics of good writing, I can show you how to get the most out of words."
You use "their", but you can't use that as it is not assigned to anybody, it is unclear. I would assume you are referring to the client and should any intelligent potential client read your website, I would imagine they would run a mile. You don't do words, you do (and are) crap.
Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 01:20:32 PM
On your website, it reads:
"I also do a few other things. As a copywriter, I use words that are right for their audience."
Have another look at those two words above in bold and consider their relationship. Copywriting doesn't have to follow the normal rules of grammar. Indeed, it often eschews them.
QuoteYou don't do words, you do (and are) crap.
That's just rude and uncalled for.
Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 01:05:38 PM
I spent 10 years moving boxes from place to place in a retail warehouse. And unloading lorries in the rain. That'll teach me to leave school without any decent qualifications. But it was character-building and gave me a very strong work ethic.
Then came working nights. For 10 months. It sucked.
Luckily, I managed to convince an advertising agency to hire me as a junior copywriter. That was over eight years ago. Since then, I've won awards, been made redundant, gone freelance, joined another agency and become Head of Copywriting ... and now, I'm freelance again.
This will tell you everything you need to know about what I do: www.idowords.com
(And yes, I'll happily consider any serious offers of work by PM. ;D)
Hi Mark.
Nice to see you back :)
Howdy, fella! Nice to be back. :)
Quote from: Manuel on May 16, 2007, 04:33:46 AM
After a few pages of professions, we can certainly agree GMG is a conjunction of big shots. Not a single janitor or shop clerk. ;D
Manuel - LOL ;D - I use to be a golf caddy, 'used' golf ball salesman, & a golf course 'handyman' - of course that was a while ago (like the early 1960s) - ;) :D
Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 01:25:15 PM
Have another look at those two words above in bold and consider their relationship. Copywriting doesn't have to follow the normal rules of grammar. Indeed, it often eschews them.
That's just rude and uncalled for.
Michel is a rude fellow, he can't help it, he is a trained provocateur, educated by the Marx Brothers. ;D
Quote from: Harry on May 16, 2007, 02:36:41 PM
Michel is a rude fellow, he can't help it, he is a trained provocateur, educated by the Marx Brothers. ;D
Harry,
Your being quite kind ole chap. Thats not how I see it..believe me I wouldn't be that kind....but I don't want uffe on my case.....
Quote from: Robert on May 16, 2007, 04:44:18 PM
Harry,
but I don't want uffe on my case.....
Have I ever been on your case, Dear Robert? Of course not, because you are a gentle man.
Michel is still learning to become one! I hope he is a fast learner! $:)
Quote from: uffeviking on May 16, 2007, 04:50:47 PM
Have I ever been on your case, Dear Robert? Of course not, because you are a gentle man. Michel is still learning to become one! I hope he is a fast learner! $:)
Dear Uffe,
Thank you for your kind words....I always try to be considerate. I also try and be patient. My memory happens to be quite good...I only hope you are right....I will give him the benefit of the doubt......Its just quite disturbing to see him insulting some of our members here....
Profession: Student ;D
Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 01:20:32 PM
On your website, it reads:
"I also do a few other things. As a copywriter, I use words that are right for their audience. As a creative, I look for something original in every brief. And with experience of teaching others the basics of good writing, I can show you how to get the most out of words."
You use "their", but you can't use that as it is not assigned to anybody, it is unclear. I would assume you are referring to the client and should any intelligent potential client read your website, I would imagine they would run a mile. You don't do words, you do (and are) crap.
The only thing unclear is how far you will go with your inanities and insults.
Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 01:20:32 PM
You use "their", but you can't use that as it is not assigned to anybody, it is unclear. I would assume you are referring to the client and should any intelligent potential client read your website, I would imagine they would run a mile. You don't do words, you do (and are) crap.
I like people to speak their mind, but this is
totally out of line.
We don't need this kind of behaviour.
Q
P.S.
Mark, a warm welcome back and I hope that will not put you off! :)
He just shoves his "work" in your face - going about on the old forum calling himself a "writer", implying he was doing something interesting and fictional, rather than just writing copy for adverts, etc. In my line of work I have met bucketloads of crap copywriters who think they are clever and better than they are. I don't know why it attracts that sort of person.
I am only rude, if I am, as a legitimate reaction against the pretense.
Yea this is no place to advertise one's profession.
Oh wait... ::)
Nice to see you back Mark! :)
Quote from: Michel on May 16, 2007, 10:54:39 PM
He just shoves his "work" in your face - going about on the old forum calling himself a "writer", implying he was doing something interesting and fictional, rather than just writing copy for adverts, etc. In my line of work I have met bucketloads of crap copywriters who think they are clever and better than they are. I don't know why it attracts that sort of person.
I am only rude, if I am, as a legitimate reaction against the pretense.
Confirmed, he will not learn, I am afraid. He is born rude. Thinks he is sort of a judge, sitting high and mighty, and knows all.
Yikes! :P
Que, JC (and of course, Young Harry), it's a pleasure to be back. :)
Quote from: Mark on May 16, 2007, 02:00:53 PM
Howdy, fella! Nice to be back. :)
Look what the cat dragged in--a great big badass Mexikin!
Welcome back homeboy! ;D
Hi XB. Hope all's well with you. :)
And I am not sure this is the place to solicit business, either.
But that said, I apologise for any offence caused; I just had to vent my frustration after a stressful day at work.
Welcome, Mark.
Quote from: Michel on May 17, 2007, 02:34:26 AM
And I am not sure this is the place to solicit business, either.
Quite right, sir. You'll see I removed the link from my original post.
And thank you for the welcome. I hope your day at work today is going better. :)
Quote from: Shrunk on May 16, 2007, 04:38:42 AM
Could you explain what "music science" is?
I might have translated that wrong. :) What about music technology? In will be taught in the fields of "Music and Mathematics", "Music and Information Technology", "Studio Technology", "Basic Orchestration and Composing" and some more.
This thread is very interesting. The variety is terrific. Me, I teach (and, obviously, occasionally play) piano, and study composition.
I work half time as manager of a small firm issuing electronic PKI certificates to customers of various banks who are customers of my company. Beside that I am part time associate professor at a local business school in mathematcs and various IT subjects, as well as working as project manager at a local bank for IT projects, mainly to do with self service systems and security related activities.
I work as a Financial Accountant for a large regional health authority. My term is up in December. I don't like it, and haven't enjoyed accounting for some years now. However, considering changing a career is a very difficult decision, when you have a family to support and mortgage and loans to pay.
I am currently seeing a career counsellor to look at all my different options and avenues.
Lion taming? ;D
(Sorry, couldn't resist it. I do wish it all works out perfectly for you and your family. A job one doesn't enjoy is one of the worst things.)
Quote from: Maciek on September 08, 2009, 08:30:10 AM
Lion taming? ;D
What do you mean, the animal I had in mind was an aardvark and not a lion?
My paid jobs have been in social work and writing; now everything I do is volunteer. Sing and play instruments. Work with disabled adults, children's homes, political groups, nonprofit foundation. Particularly interesed in nonprofit marketing. Learning to ride horses.
I don't know how much SonicMan, my breadwinner, has revealed about his non-GMG life, but I can tell you that he is more or less in the education field and has a large CD collection. :)
I'm a retired lawyer, and have been looking for a job for years. On the work market, older than 45 are as good as dead. And so, at 67, absolutely nobody answer mine postulations or read my CV after "age". :'(
Quote from: Harpo on September 08, 2009, 08:41:57 AM
now everything I do is volunteer. Sing and play instruments. Work with disabled adults, children's homes, political groups, nonprofit foundation. Particularly interesed in nonprofit marketing. Learning to ride horses.
Susan,
You are a wonderful role model for society! :) Volunteers like you help make this world a much, much better place. 0:)
Quote from: ChamberNut on September 08, 2009, 09:12:52 AM
Susan,
You are a wonderful role model for society! :) Volunteers like you help make this world a much, much better place. 0:)
Kissup. ;D
Quote from: DFO on September 08, 2009, 08:45:22 AM
I'm a retired lawyer, and have been looking for a job for years. On the work market, older than 45 are as good as dead. And so, at 67, absolutely nobody answer mine postulations or read my CV after "age". :'(
That stinks and is a completely wrong headed approach, the experience you have should make you a prime candidate. :-\
Quote from: DavidW on September 08, 2009, 09:14:00 AM
Kissup. ;D
As a teacher David, you are also a tremendous role model! 0:) ;D
Quote from: ChamberNut on September 08, 2009, 09:15:46 AM
As a teacher David, you are also a tremendous role model! 0:) ;D
Well in that case... flattery will get you everywhere. ;D
Quote from: DavidW on September 08, 2009, 09:14:49 AM
That stinks and is a completely wrong headed approach, the experience you have should make you a prime candidate. :-\
That's one way of looking at it. The down side is that if you have signifcant work experience companies think they have to pay you more so that works to your disadvantage. I agree that it sucks but in this economy a lot of companies are looking to cut corners.
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on September 08, 2009, 09:48:59 AM
That's one way of looking at it. The down side is that if you have signifcant work experience companies think they have to pay you more so that works to your disadvantage. I agree that it sucks but in this economy a lot of companies are looking to cut corners.
Yeah that makes sense. NPR recently quoted the average # of work hours across the US is now 33/week. Instead of hiring someone expensive they would simply give more hours to their current employees.
Quote from: DavidW on September 08, 2009, 09:53:17 AM
Yeah that makes sense. NPR recently quoted the average # of work hours across the US is now 33/week. Instead of hiring someone expensive they would simply give more hours to their current employees.
Just ask me. Where I work everyone is taking an unpaid day off every other Friday until business improves.
Quote from: PerfectWagnerite on September 08, 2009, 10:05:48 AM
Just ask me. Where I work everyone is taking an unpaid day off every other Friday until business improves.
Yes. That's going around.
Quote from: MN Dave on September 08, 2009, 10:06:28 AM
Yes. That's going around.
We might have to do that soon, that would suck, but it's better than laying off more people. :-\
I graduated college with a degree in comp science and applied math and statistics. Started my first job in September 2005. As of right now, I'm working my 3rd job, where I'm a manager of application support at a software company. Application support in the sense of actually fixing problems, not talking to clients on the phone.
d.
I'm a legal translator, living in a large foreign city and actually putting my linguistic education to work. I also do various bits of writing and journalism, as time allows (nowadays, it mostly doesn't).
Quote from: ChamberNut on September 08, 2009, 09:12:52 AM
Susan,
You are a wonderful role model for society! :) Volunteers like you help make this world a much, much better place. 0:)
Merci! I used to think that I had to have a prestigious, paying job in order to be "worthy," but I finally realized that I was privileged to be able to do what I like and value. Of course all this is made possible because Sonic, a medical school professor, is still working at a job which he basically likes.
I hope you can find a job which you can look forward to when you wake up in the morning. :)
QuoteAmeriprise set to buy another asset manager or broker
(InvestmentNews.com Current Issue Headlines) - Jun 28, 2009
Columbia Management Group, Inc. - Colin Devine at Citigroup Global
In fact, Ameriprise of Minneapolis is aiming for a transaction in the range of $1 billion to $2 billion, and a leading potential candidate could be Columbia Management Group LLC, Colin Devine, an analyst with Citigroup Global Markets Inc of New York, wrote in a research note from . Bank of America Corp of Charlotte, N.C., has put the Boston firm on the block. Such a large acquisition, however, would not be the typical deal for Ameriprise, another analyst noted. "The $1 billion capital raise was large relative to Ameriprise's balance sheet, and a potential acquisition in the $1 billion plus range would be large relative to Ameriprise's historical standards," Jeffrey Schumann, an analyst with Keefe Bruyette & Woods Inc of New York, wrote last Monday
Job Status of a Top BofA Exec Unclear, Reports Say
(New York Times - DealBook) - Aug 07, 2009
Columbia Management Group, Inc. - New York Times - DealBook
The job status of Keith Banks, the Bank of America executive in charge of U.S. Trust and the asset manager Columbia Management, was unclear on Thursday, with one published report suggesting he might leave his position and another saying he was leaving. The Wall Street Journal said Mr. Banks told employees this week that he would stay in his job for an undetermined transitional period. Citing people familiar with the situation, the newspaper said Mr. Banks did not specifically state that he was leaving the bank.
DavidW, aren't you supposed to be teaching a class right now? :)
Quote from: ChamberNut on September 10, 2009, 11:55:37 AM
DavidW, aren't you supposed to be teaching a class right now? :)
They're doing a lab. ;D