Daphnis et Chloe versus The Rite of Spring

[PerfectWagnerite]

Can't help but noticing how ravishingly beautiful Ravel's ballet is and it came 10yrs before The Rite. It terms of excitement I do not think it yields one iota to Stravinsky's masterpiece. Which do you guys enjoy more?

***sorry not 10 yrs***

[Sergeant Rock]

Le Sacre!...easy choice for me. Daphnis et Chloé is one of the few Ravel works I really don't like. Speaking in terms Ken can understand: Daphnis is my La mer 

Sarge

[ritter]

Mmm... really can't vote for this one, as both works are very different in their concepton and outlook IMHO. Strangely, though, Daphnis is probably one of Ravel's major works I feel least close to. Or, put another way, I listen to other Ravel pieces much, much more often that I do to Daphnis. And I love Ravel.

But I do not understand your assertion, PerfectWagnerite, that Daphnis came 10 years before Le Sacre. Ravel's ballet was premeiered in 1912, Stravinsky's in 1913  .

Regards,

[PerfectWagnerite]

But I do not undrestand your assertion, PerfectWagnerite, that Daphnis came 10 years before Le Sacre. Ravel's ballet was premeiered in 1912, Stravinsky's in 1913  .

Sorry I read the dates wrong ! mUST be getting senile !

[Karl Henning]

I like Daphnis.  A lot.

But Le sacre is part of my musical DNA.

[arpeggio]

Mmm... really can't vote for this one, as both works are very different in their concepton and outlook IMHO.

I also can not pick one over the other.

[San Antone]

I also can not pick one over the other.

Nor I.

[mc ukrneal]

Easy - D&C by an enormous landslide.

[Mister Sharpe]

I wonder how many of us have heard the whole Ravel ballet?  Less than half would be my rough estimate even among classical fans.  Jean Martinon and Chicago rate tops, I think, though against the mainstream I like Previn's nearly as much. 

b]Perfect[/b], please spell Daphnis correctly, he has enough troubles to contend with...

[Spineur]

Both work share some erotic content.  I believe that a hardcore version of Daphnis et Cloé was actually filmed.

It is difficult to find a DVD version of the ballet.  I once recorded on french tv, Daphnis et Chloé in a choregraphy of Jean Christophe Maillot  with Anjara Ballesteros-Cilla as Chloé and Jeroen Verbruggen as Daphnis.  There is a short excerpt on YT.

I sang in the full version. Our first major run through with piano was a surprise, even to those of us who knew the piece to listen to. Stripped of the orchestra, it was clear that Ravel had written in a very explicit orgasm. I remember the build up, sudden silence then all the laughter. In the performance, we really went for it.

Mike

[NikF]

Both work share some erotic content.  I believe that a hardcore version of Daphnis et Cloé was actually filmed.

It is difficult to find a DVD version of the ballet.  I once recorded on french tv, Daphnis et Chloé in a choregraphy of Jean Christophe Maillot  with Anjara Ballesteros-Cilla as Chloé and Jeroen Verbruggen as Daphnis.  There is a short excerpt on YT.

Is this the Maillot video you're referring to?

http://www.youtube.com/v/1s9vEQsTGyg

[pjme]

Two classics that stand out and both great to see and hear performed in a concert hall. Le sacre is performed rather often these days - so I welcome any performance of the complete Daphnis et Chloé - propably more expensive to do because of the chorus.

In june 2017 I'll be in Bozar Brussels for


'My intention was to compose a large musical panorama in which, rather than the ancient reality, I wanted to depict the Greece of my dreams, which is closer to what the French artists of the late 18th century portrayed.' In his impressionist ballet Daphnis et Chloé, based on the famous love story by Longus, which he wrote for the Ballets Russes shortly before the Great War, Maurice Ravel's first priority was not to capture the historical life of Greece in late antiquity. In his four-part Rhapsodie espagnole for orchestra, however, captured the essence of Spanish music, and in his Tzigane for violin and orchestra of Hungarian Gypsy music. Ravel, as always, shows himself to be a master orchestrator who conjures the finest shades of meaning from the orchestra. And who better to conjure these ultimate nuances from the orchestra of La Monnaie than its Music Director Alain Altinoglu?

Program
Maurice Ravel Rhapsodie Espagnole pour orchestre seul (1907-1908)
Maurice Ravel Tzigane (1924)
Maurice Ravel Daphnis et Chloé, symphonie chorégraphique (1909-1912)
Agenda
29.06.2017


Prices
cat 1 - € 44 / cat 2 - € 34
cat 3 - € 24 / cat 4 - € 10


Extra
Let's Concert!
One free ticket for a young person under 18 years old per ticket sold.

Tickets on sale from 01.12.2016 onwards

CAST
ConductorALAIN ALTINOGLU
Chorus masterMARTINO FAGGIANI
ViolinSATÉNIK KHOURDOIAN
La Monnaie Symphony Orchestra & Chorus
La Monnaie Chorus Academy led by Benoît Giaux
PRODUCTIONLa Monnaie / De Munt
CO-PRESENTATIONBozar Music

[Spineur]

Yes this it.  There is so much tenderness in this choregraphy.  I love it !

[PerfectWagnerite]

b]Perfect[/b], please spell Daphnis correctly, he has enough troubles to contend with...

Fixed. thanks.

[Ken B]

Le Sacre!...easy choice for me. Daphnis et Chloé is one of the few Ravel works I really don't like. Speaking in terms Ken can understand: Daphnis is my La mer 

Sarge

I feel you. 

Yeah this is easy, and should be lop sided.

[Turner]

Depends somewhat on one´s exact mood on the day - they create such different atmospheres and soundscapes.

Overall, I personally find them of equal value.

[Brian]

Igor should win, probably...but for me it's Maurice.

[Karl Henning]

I like polls like this for which there is no wrong answer 

[Ken B]

Igor should win, probably...but for me it's Maurice.

Knowing you have a problem is half the cure.

[Christo]

I admire the suites from Daphnis; but to be honest, the full score is disappointing - and no match for the Sacre IMHO. I think I even prefer Pierné's Cyndalise in that case.