Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Mister Sharpe]

Trumpniks...sounds suspiciously Russian...

[Mister Sharpe]

Very funny.  Their editorial is hardly "moderate". 

Indeed; see what Trump has driven moderates to write?

[Karl Henning]

Trumpniks...sounds suspiciously Russian...

Coincidence? There's something going on there.

[Karl Henning]

Considering what an extreme candidate El Tupé is, I do not see why an editorial which advises voting for the other candidate, is at all intrinsically immoderate.

[San Antone]

Considering what an extreme candidate El Tupé is, I do not see why an editorial which advises voting for the other candidate, is at all intrinsically immoderate.

I think a major magazine telling its readers who not to vote for is silly.  A bit of protesting too much if you ask me.

[San Antone]

By the way, has the "moderate" Atlantic ever endorsed a Republican other than Lincoln?  The answer is no.  Their other endorsements were LBJ and Clinton.

Just sayin' ...

[PerfectWagnerite]

Thanks, Perfect, well worth reading. The Atlantic this month is similarly exlicit: "Don't Vote for Trump" : http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/11/the-case-for-hillary-clinton-and-against-donald-trump/501161/  If this keeps up, sanantonio may be casting Trump's only vote (other than his own, naturally, and I would wager some Trumpeters in his family have had more than enough of the "limelight." And anyway, the Don really is too wonderful to be POTUS :  http://crooksandliars.com/2016/10/donald-trump-jr-my-dad-too-good-you

Just as scathing but not as comprehensively presented as the NYDailyNews but essentially the same conclusion:

If Hillary Clinton were facing Mitt Romney, or John McCain, or George W. Bush, or, for that matter, any of the leading candidates Trump vanquished in the Republican primaries, we would not have contemplated making this endorsement. We believe in American democracy, in which individuals from various parties of different ideological stripes can advance their ideas and compete for the affection of voters. But Trump is not a man of ideas. He is a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar. He is spectacularly unfit for office, and voters—the statesmen and thinkers of the ballot box—should act in defense of American democracy and elect his opponent.

[North Star]

Just as scathing but not as comprehensively presented as the NYDailyNews but essentially the same conclusion:

But Trump is not a man of ideas..

A man of id is more like it.

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

Always look on the bright side of life

I wonder what could be the positive aspects of either result.

If Trump wins:
Congress rediscovers its backbone and puts more limits and scrutiny on executive power. The "Imperial Presidency" finally gets cut down to size. The endless scandals and larger-than-life antics of the Prez provide a bonanza for investigative journalists and comedians.  Fewer foreigners will want to move here, which eases overcrowding and makes real estate more affordable.

If Clinton wins:
She sleeps 14 hours a day. She is too jaded and detached to force through her favorite initiatives, such as more wars. The return of Bill to the White House as First Gentleman will provide endless entertainment. It will also highlight how diseased our system has become through dynastic politics.

[Pat B]

In this regard, certainly, El Tupé outdoes even any GOP candidate I've yet run across:

Trump's Views on Science Are Shockingly Ignorant

One of the benefits of living in Massachusetts, perhaps? From my perspective the only one of those that is unusual for a Republican is the one about wind farms.

[Pat B]

I could have continued:  It is my belief that Liberals will experience buyers remorse from a Hillary Clinton presidency.  Which is why I think this kind of laudatory commentary is delusional.

Krugman's column was not a prediction about her presidency. It simply explained that she has run a strong campaign, and maybe we should think about possibly including that somewhere in the list of reasons she's doing well.

[kishnevi]

In this regard, certainly, El Tupé outdoes even any GOP candidate I've yet run across:

Trump's Views on Science Are Shockingly Ignorant

(I know that especially in this, snypsss gives him a BIIIIIG pass.)

May I point out that several of those tidbits relate to questions of public policy, but bear no relevance to determining his level of scientific knowledge. For instance the two listed under "Health Care".

OTOH, labelling AGW as a Chinese conspiracy is outre by all but Breitbart standards.

[Karl Henning]

May I point out that several of those tidbits relate to questions of public policy, but bear no relevance to determining his level of scientific knowledge. For instance the two listed under "Health Care".

Perfectly fair.

[Karl Henning]

"Oh, and here is another foot of mine to shoot!"

Congress member defends Trump: "sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's being nasty"

[drogulus]

    I'm proud to cast my vote for the first lesbian vampire President of this nation (that we know of). We need to pull together, all of us, living, dead and undecided, for a stronger America.

      *

     * Cabinet of the undead

     

[BasilValentine]

I know it is a stretch.      But hope springs eternal.  But if I were to put my faith in one of them, I'd sooner choose Trump rather than her. 

You would rather put your faith in the man who stiffed contractors and vendors who built his casinos, casinos which proved to be the come-ons for his bankruptcy-scams? You know, the ones executed through his well oiled-business model of selling junk bonds to gullible investors while loading the attendant corporations with suicide bomb debt loads? The one who paid himself millions of dollars from the proceeds of such sale and drew further millions as a salary from these corporations while all the said investors (and the cities who had given him tax incentives to run his scams on their turf) ended up holding a festering bag of shit and urban decay? You would rather trust the man who used an alleged charity he set up as a money laundering outfit, as Trump did when he took other people's money and donated it to a police organization on the condition that they pay it back to Trump in the form of an exorbitant rental fee for the use of one of his own facilities, thus laundering charity Monday into his bank account? The man who used charity money to pay his own debts and to buy items for his own use? You mean the man who used charity funds to bribe the Florida attorney general so that all of the Trump University graduates lining up to sue him for fraud in that state had no hope of just compensation? You mean trust him as did all of those TU graduates in New York who are going to sue him for fraud unless he becomes dictator and issues an executive order quashing the judicial action ? Apparently there are a hundred born every minute.   

[(poco) Sforzando]

"Oh, and here is another foot of mine to shoot!"

Congress member defends Trump: "sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's being nasty"

Since Babin doesn't accept emails from outside his district, I wrote my own worthless congressman to tell him: "Re Babin: sometimes an asshole needs to be told when he's being an asshole."

[kishnevi]

"Oh, and here is another foot of mine to shoot!"

Congress member defends Trump: "sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's being nasty"

First thought:. He is from the same state as that paragon of Presidential language, LBJ.
Second thought:. He did imply Hillary is a "lady", which is more than Trump seems able to do.

[(poco) Sforzando]

You would rather put your faith in the man who stiffed contractors and vendors who built his casinos, casinos which proved to be the come-ons for his bankruptcy-scams? You know, the ones executed through his well oiled-business model of selling junk bonds to gullible investors while loading the attendant corporations with suicide bomb debt loads? The one who paid himself millions of dollars from the proceeds of such sale and drew further millions as a salary from these corporations while all the said investors (and the cities who had given him tax incentives to run his scams on their turf) ended up holding a festering bag of shit and urban decay? You would rather trust the man who used an alleged charity he set up as a money laundering outfit, as Trump did when he took other people's money and donated it to a police organization on the condition that they pay it back to Trump in the form of an exorbitant rental fee for the use of one of his own facilities, thus laundering charity Monday into his bank account? You mean the man who used charity funds to bribe the Florida attorney general so that all of the Trump University graduates lining up to sue him for fraud in that state had no hope of just compensation? You mean trust him as did all of those TU graduates in New York who are going to sue him for fraud unless he becomes dictator and issues an executive order quashing the judicial action ? Apparently there are a hundred born every minute.   

One cannot reason with faith.

[(poco) Sforzando]

I think a major magazine telling its readers who not to vote for is silly.  A bit of protesting too much if you ask me.

Pot kettle black. Major magazines and newspapers have expressed political endorsements since time immemorial. Why, Maddow offered a graphic of how many newspapers have endorsed Clinton and how many Trump. Dozens and dozens for Clinton, three teeny weeny ones for Trump. But now he's got the KKK.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/21/donald-trump-finally-wins-newspaper-endorsement-kkk.html