Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Ken B]

Correction. Kotlikoff can only win 43 states. 7 states will not allow write-ins.
All the more reason to help him in your state! 

[Mirror Image]

Just a reminder: the election won't be rigged as long as Trump wins!

https://www.youtube.com/v/OsKxjQ67GKU

He has got to be one of the biggest losers I've ever seen running for president. I thought Perot, McCain, Dole, both Bushes, Romney and Kerry were bad enough, but this guy really takes the cake.

[zamyrabyrd]

What kind of elections are the abundant examples of stolen elections, though?

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-19/trump-or-no-trump-elections-have-been-stolen

Throughout the 19th century, everyone seemed to think that election fraud was widespread. Democrats insisted that Rutherford B. Hayes stole the 1876 presidential race. Republicans said the same about Grover Cleveland in 1884. ...the accusations continued. In 1916, the presidential contest between Charles Evans Hughes and incumbent Woodrow Wilson went unresolved for several days. California, the last state to report, was counting and counting, and Hughes's Republican supporters fretted publicly about the possibility that the election would be stolen.

Sometimes the accusers were right. Once the votes were counted in that disputed 1876 election, it appeared that Democrat Samuel J. Tilden had won a majority in both the popular vote and the Electoral College. Hayes would not admit defeat, and his backers argued that the vote had been unfair because of massive vote fraud. Black voters had been beaten and intimidated throughout the South. In particular, the Republicans challenged the balloting in Florida, South Carolina and Louisiana.

Recounts were ordered. In South Carolina, the board of canvassers was threatened, and troops dispatched to protect them. The Tilden forces were furious. One Democratic newspaper lamented: "The character of the state government of South Carolina is so notorious that the integrity of this board will be considered absurd." Congress finally appointed a committee to adjudicate the matter. When Hayes supporters said the nation should abide by the outcome, whatever it was, the pro-Tilden Cincinnati Enquirer replied angrily that this argument betrayed "ignorance of the law and the Constitution."

In the end, the committee awarded all the disputed states to Hayes, giving him the presidency by a single electoral vote, and allowing him to go down in history as the man who ended Reconstruction and left the freed slaves to the untender mercies of their former owners. The Democrats cried foul, and there is ample reason to think they were right. In fact, the battle produced a dismaying symmetry: first Tilden won by intimidation and then Hayes won by fraud.

The President thus inherited an embarrassing moniker: Rutherfraud Hayes.

[Ken B]

These are old posts of mine linked here for drogulus. I think you will find we agree on the basics here.


http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2012/11/a-war-on-public-debt-and-paul-krugman.html

And

http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2012/11/writing-landsburg.html

And

http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2012/11/my-latest-salvo-in-ongoing-war-at-free.html

Transfer effects do matter though.

[PerfectWagnerite]

Just a reminder: the election won't be rigged as long as Trump wins!

https://www.youtube.com/v/OsKxjQ67GKU

He has got to be one of the biggest losers I've ever seen running for president. I thought Perot, McCain, Dole, both Bushes, Romney and Kerry were bad enough, but this guy really takes the cake.

I don't know what his beef is(yet). Stolen implies the election is somewhat close. Right now by all accounts he is getting creamed in every swing state so Grandma would have to "steal" or "rig" 5 or 6 states. She is conniving and all but even that is beyond her abilities I would think.

[drogulus]

   

These are old posts of mine linked here for drogulus. I think you will find we agree on the basics here.


http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2012/11/a-war-on-public-debt-and-paul-krugman.html

And

http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2012/11/writing-landsburg.html

And

http://kenblogic.blogspot.com/2012/11/my-latest-salvo-in-ongoing-war-at-free.html

Transfer effects do matter though.

     I'm not an a priorist like Bob Murphy interested in the mathematical possibility that balance sheet phenomena today reduce real production, consumption and investment tomorrow. Instead I find it more plausible that real production, consumption and investment today will affect the level of these tomorrow. It's a question, for me, of how it has worked, although I do have Bob-like objections to the logical status of a money system net owing money. But that's not my focus.

[BasilValentine]

I don't know what his beef is(yet). Stolen implies the election is somewhat close. Right now by all accounts he is getting creamed in every swing state so Grandma would have to "steal" or "rig" 5 or 6 states. She is conniving and all but even that is beyond her abilities I would think.

I think it is naive to think Trump's statements about stolen elections — or anything else — necessarily have anything to do with his beliefs or his view of reality. Had he acknowledged the essential fairness of the election process at the end of the third debate he would have been relinquishing a prime talking point he needs to inflame the passions of his base. For sociopaths, words are primarily tools for the manipulation of other people.

[kishnevi]

I don't know what his beef is(yet). Stolen implies the election is somewhat close. Right now by all accounts he is getting creamed in every swing state so Grandma would have to "steal" or "rig" 5 or 6 states. She is conniving and all but even that is beyond her abilities I would think.

His complaint is that the media (through unfair coverage) and the rest of the elites are systematically and knowingly working against him to ensure that Hillary is elected. That the entire process is unfair.

This of course harmonizes very well with the reasons his supporters support him.  That through his various idiocies he is actively helping the hostile press, etc. is apparently not something he (and they) understand.

[The new erato]

The republican media is well up to supporting Trumpf is he is worth supporting. As they don't, Donald should draw his own conclusions.

[drogulus]

     The press jumped all over Romney for the 47% remark and disowning his health care plan. On the whole Romney was considered to be a credible candidate, and of higher quality than the party that had nominated him and ultimately dragged him to defeat.

[Zeus]

Trump really blew it (again) today.

Pretend for a moment I'm a Trump fan.  Here are the headlines I see this morning...

Trump to Lay Out a Vision for First 100 Days as President

In Gettysburg, no less. How symbolic.  What a great opportunity to outline his vision for his presidency. To rise above the he-said she-said mudslinging and really focus on detailed policy proposals addressing the problems our country faces. Like a modern-day Lincoln. Without any distractions or interruptions from that nasty woman. What a great way to turn the whole campaign around, and finish in style. Maybe even win!?

So how does Donald take advantage of this golden opportunity?  How high does Donald soar?
- he arrives more than an hour late
- he declares the system is rigged
- he insists the recent accusations of sexual assault against him are fiction
- he promises to sue all the women who have accused him
- he blames the media some more
- he eventually gets around to reading off several points he's made in the past

What a wasted opportunity. This guy is broken. Election over.

[(poco) Sforzando]

His complaint is that the media (through unfair coverage) and the rest of the elites are systematically and knowingly working against him to ensure that Hillary is elected. That the entire process is unfair.

This even though, for instance, the unabashedly liberal MSNBC regularly broadcasts all his speeches and rallies, giving viewers ample opportunity to hear and see him for themselves.

[drogulus]

   

This even though, for instance, the unabashedly liberal MSNBC regularly broadcasts all his speeches and rallies, giving viewers ample opportunity to hear and see him for themselves.

     That's because they hate him.

     None of the networks really wants to fully cover Hildabitch. She is a terrible speechmaker.

[BasilValentine]

Kurt Eichenwald has apparently published a brief business biography of Donald Trump in Newsweek. If anyone still had any illusions about Trump's "success," this should help to wake them up. The interview starts around 8:40:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zzEB9X29D4

Oh yeah. Number eleven. For anyone keeping track, this one was grabbed above the waist.

[snyprrr]

Seth Rich is suspected to have leaked info to this McFayden(?) reporter. Seth was killed in an odd 3am alley shooting. Now this McFayden is dead of being sick.


Nothing to see here, just a coincidence?

[zamyrabyrd]

Seth Rich is suspected to have leaked info to this McFayden(?) reporter. Seth was killed in an odd 3am alley shooting. Now this McFayden is dead of being sick.
Nothing to see here, just a coincidence?

When you have capital, you don't get punishment.

Covering up a sickness in progress however is more difficult than disposing of dead bodies:

https://www.youtube.com/v/vzKIM1SR_Po

[snyprrr]

Go to any video of the the debate, where the two of them are on a split screen. T on left, H on right. Behind them both is a blue(?) background with what I think is the Constitution superimposed/written on it. Right?

So, look at the H side. Right behind her head it says something like "...and their Rights shall be to bla bla it...", just typical Constitution speak, BUT

BUT

BUT, when her head leans just a little to her right, and you freeze frame it, it says


Rig
It



WOW!- You can see it for yourself. I'm not saying nuthin other that it IS THERE.

HILARIOUS!!

[Madiel]

Let's just move on to the moon landing or the grassy knoll, shall we? 

[Karl Henning]

Covering up a sickness in progress however is more difficult than disposing of dead bodies:

One says that, until one has a body that needs disposal.

[(poco) Sforzando]

When you have capital, you don't get punishment.

Covering up a sickness in progress however is more difficult than disposing of dead bodies:

The smoking gun:

"Clinton is now rumored to be suffering from a plethora of medical ailments, including: dementia, post-concussion syndrome, Parkinson's Disease, brain tumor, brain injury, complex partial seizures, and many more alleged ailments."

Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/wikileaks-just-dropped-bombshell-hillarys-health-truth-revealed/#ixzz4NuM86Guw

And you all thought I never posted anything negative about Hill!