Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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drogulus

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    Conservatives have increasingly gone to news sources that are beyond biased to the point that they must cover up the dishonesty of their sources. They gave up on selecting which truths to report, which all biased media do, in favor of abandoning truth criteria. Now the Repubs find themselves powerless to resist Trump when he uses their own lack of truth criteria against them. If mainstream Repubs oppose Trump, they are biased, they are liars, they are conspirators. It's late in the game to invoke standards of objectivity and evidence based arguments. Trump plays their game better than they do.
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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The mainstreaming of racism on Fox News

Quote from: Jennifer RubinWe've made the distinction before, but it bears repeating: There are professional, fair and conscientious news people on Fox News. No one could watch the final debate and deny that Chris Wallace is among the best in the business. Bret Baier and Megyn Kelly have earned their place among top debate moderators and interviewers. What we are about to discuss does not apply to them, but it threatens to diminish the news legitimacy of their employer and depress their own ratings as the Fox News label becomes tarnished.

The degree to which Fox fake-news programming (e.g. Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, "Fox and Friends") has mainstreamed and defended blatant racism is shocking. Overshadowed by Newt Gingrich's outburst on Megyn Kelly's show last night was Sean Hannity's birther dog-whistle. He directed his rant to President Obama:

You want to go to Canada? I'll pay for you to go to Canada. You want to go to Kenya? I'll pay for you to go to Kenya. Jakarta, where you went to school back in the day, you can go back there. Anywhere you want to go. I'll put the finest food — caviar, champagne, you name it. I have one stipulation: You can't come back.

Now, do we think it's coincidental that he picked Kenya, folks? Do we think Hannity is not ringing the birther bell, suggesting (affirming, actually) for the benefit of his alt-right audience that, in his mind, Obama is a foreigner, probably Muslim and definitely not "one of us"?

We've noted before that Donald Trump's campaign rhetoric is an extension of the crackpot right-wing media, his appearance paved by years of conspiracy theories, dog-whistles, paranoia and, yes, appeals to racism and ridicule of women. In the final days of the Trump campaign, we are reminded where the toxic brew that Trump spouts originated.
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 26, 2016, 09:31:31 AM
The ABA wouldn't run a piece calling Trump a "libel bully." Here it is.

(That's the American Bar Association, y'all.)

Trump was even more unreliable in his testimony about his net worth:

Q: Now Mr. Trump, have you always been completely truthful in your public statements about your net worth of properties?

A: I try.

Q: Have you ever been not truthful?

A: My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and feelings, even my own feelings but I try.

Q: Let me just understand that a little bit. Let's talk about that for a second. You said that the net worth goes up and down based on your own feelings?

A: Yes....
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

North Star

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 26, 2016, 10:33:45 AM
Trump was even more unreliable in his testimony about his net worth:

Q: Now Mr. Trump, have you always been completely truthful in your public statements about your net worth of properties?

A: I try.

Q: Have you ever been not truthful?

A: My net worth fluctuates, and it goes up and down with markets and with attitudes and feelings, even my own feelings but I try.

Q: Let me just understand that a little bit. Let's talk about that for a second. You said that the net worth goes up and down based on your own feelings?

A: Yes....

A good piece, and indeed that bit especially was pure gold.
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(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 26, 2016, 10:16:40 AM
Mr "Law & Order" . . .

Some of the Hispanic workers who helped build the 5-star hotel told the Post they had entered the U.S. illegally.

(Dang! There's the media doing their job again!)

You don't get it. The media are biased. Look at all those biased words in the headline alone. When you find one, let me know.
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San Antone

Quote from: drogulus on October 26, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
     Trump booster Alex Jones: I'm not anti-Semitic, but Jews run an evil conspiracy

   

Wow.  I always suspected Alex Jones was a crank (I've never read his stuff and my only exposure has been from others touting him), but I never spent any time looking for proof.  Thanks.


Madiel

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Quote from: sanantonio on October 26, 2016, 08:06:27 AM
If Media Did It's Job, We Wouldn't Need WikiLeaks


Anyone who equates all examples of erasure gets an analysis fail from me.
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Ken B

Quote from: ørfeo on October 26, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
Anyone who equates erasing one's own emails with breaking into a hotel to erase someone else's material gets an analysis fail from me.
They aren't one's own emails. My work emails are not mine, they are my employer's, and there are rules and laws about them. And doubly so in government. And we aren't talking about simply hitting the delete button either. And "equates" is a squish word. I don't equate mugging and raping but they're both pretty bad.

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Madiel

Quote from: Ken B on October 26, 2016, 01:46:19 PM
My work emails are not mine, they are my employer's, and there are rules and laws about them.

Well if we're going to be picky, "rules" and "laws" can be quite different things.

I don't think anyone has a problem with the proposition that Clinton broke rules. But the policies of the State Department are not laws. And I've seen a few commentaries that obscure that in a general "she did something wrong" cloud as if that's sufficient.
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Madiel

And I don't know about you, but I delete emails at work all the time. I delete the ones that tell me morning tea is on. I delete the ones that don't add anything to a conversation. I delete the ones that tell me about some meeting I'm not going to or conference I'm not interested in.

The IT people can see me doing this. No-one has ever come storming into my office telling me that I can't delete these emails just because they're not "mine".
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drogulus


     The only person(s) that have the authority to delete State Dept. emails are the Secretary and the President.
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André

Quote from: drogulus on October 26, 2016, 10:18:14 AM
     Trump booster Alex Jones: I'm not anti-Semitic, but Jews run an evil conspiracy

   

I opened the link. Jones' yelling, irate figure and clenched fists jumped at me. I swallowed and read some. Couldn't take the aggression for more than the first parafraphs. Closed the web page. Thank you  :(.

Madiel

Quote from: drogulus on October 26, 2016, 02:44:37 PM
     The only person(s) that have the authority to delete State Dept. emails are the Secretary and the President.

Reading all the emails where people organise lunch or who is going to pick up the kids must be riveting.
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