Works least typical of a composer

Started by max, October 31, 2007, 07:13:36 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

karlhenning

Siegfried-Idyll: it's so short, and quite listenable  8) 0:)

Keemun

Quote from: karlhenning on November 01, 2007, 12:49:14 PM
Care to share?

Hmmmm.....  Well, I guess it's the only work I've heard by Elgar that I actually enjoy listening to.  Not that I think the rest of Elgar's music sucks (and I'm not trying to start another debate/argument like the one going on in the Mahler/Bruckner thread).  The cello concerto just sounds different (to me) from his other works.  Obviously others disagree, which is fine.  I don't claim to be an Elgar expert, or to have heard all of his works.   It's the one work that came to mind when I read the topic of this thread.  I don't think I can explain it any more clearly than that (which admittedly is about as clear as mud).   :D
Music is the mediator between the spiritual and the sensual life. - Ludwig van Beethoven

lukeottevanger

Quote from: The Poopy Flying Monkey on November 01, 2007, 11:34:03 AM
not only that, it's the only thing he ever wrote that includes a harp
Quote from: karlhenning on November 01, 2007, 11:35:57 AM
Hadn't considered that before, Greg.
That's because it isn't true - op 17, 4 Gesange for female chorus, 2 horns and harp. Yummy

MishaK

Quote from: karlhenning on November 01, 2007, 09:00:32 AM
Large-scale sacred choral work.

By that logic Fidelio, Verdi's String Quartet and Franck's Symphony in D are all atypical. Basically any work of which type a composer has produced only one example would then be fair game for inclusion here. I don't think that was the question, really.

karlhenning

Quote from: lukeottevanger on November 01, 2007, 01:11:18 PM
That's because it isn't true - op 17, 4 Gesange for female chorus, 2 horns and harp. Yummy

Thank you for furnishing the occasion, Luke, for me to be pleased to have expressed myself with caution  8)

BachQ

Quote from: lukeottevanger on November 01, 2007, 01:11:18 PM
- op 17, 4 Gesange for female chorus, 2 horns and harp. Yummy

....... what a lovely combination ........

bhodges

Quote from: Herzog Wildfang on November 01, 2007, 01:16:55 PM
....... what a lovely combination ........

Those four are some of the most beautiful songs ever written, and that reminds me that I haven't heard them in quite a long time.  0:)

--Bruce

lukeottevanger

Quote from: bhodges on November 01, 2007, 01:23:33 PM
Those four are some of the most beautiful songs ever written, and that reminds me that I haven't heard them in quite a long time.  0:)

--Bruce

Just took the liberty of taking a small sample of the first song from Amazon. How delicious is this:


bhodges

Quote from: lukeottevanger on November 01, 2007, 01:30:14 PM
Just took the liberty of taking a small sample of the first song from Amazon. How delicious is this:



That's my favorite of the four!  Too bad the sample ends just a few seconds before the melodic arch is complete, but yes, that is some heavenly music.

--Bruce

mahlertitan

if you buy that album with the compete piano work by Bizet, you will be shocked how similar he is to Chopin.

marvinbrown

#50
Quote from: karlhenning on November 01, 2007, 12:57:20 PM
Siegfried-Idyll: it's so short, and quite listenable  8) 0:)

That piece was meant for Cosima.....I don't think Wagner intended for anybody but Cosima to take it seriously.


  marvin

Solitary Wanderer

Quote from: marvinbrown on November 01, 2007, 02:03:03 PM
That peice was meant for Cosima.....I don't think Wagner intended for anybody but Cosima to take it seriously.


  marvin

I think Wagners Paino sonata's are more atypical of his style than Siegfrieds Idyll  :)
'I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth.' ~ Emily Bronte

Holden

LvB: Choral Fantasy, Ecossaises
Prokofiev: Classical symphony
Bach: Toccata and Fugue in D minor
Schoenberg: Verklate Nacht
Cheers

Holden

Bonehelm

LvB - Rage over a lost penny

Not the music itself, just the title. I normally think LvB as a serious person. Why write music in memory of a lost coin?

12tone.

A work that's least typical of a composer would have to be Henning's Symphony for Vibrato.  You know, I never saw that coming.  Hearing the works before that, one might think Henning would go in another direction, especially with his Symphony #18 and SQ #34.  Both are great but they don't have that...certain drive that the Vibrato did.  Henning seemed to put all he knew into that great symphony. 

It's great, but never saw it coming  :o :o :o

Mozart

Quote from: Bonehelm on November 01, 2007, 08:41:22 PM
LvB - Rage over a lost penny

Not the music itself, just the title. I normally think LvB as a serious person. Why write music in memory of a lost coin?

I'm sure Beethoven didn't write this name. Now its stuck in my head, thanks alot!

mahlertitan

Giuseppe Verdi's E minor String Quartet.

greg

Quote from: lukeottevanger on November 01, 2007, 01:11:18 PM
That's because it isn't true - op 17, 4 Gesange for female chorus, 2 horns and harp. Yummy
no one listens to his song cycles so it only halfway counts  ;D

marvinbrown

Quote from: Solitary Wanderer on November 01, 2007, 02:06:40 PM
I think Wagners Paino sonata's are more atypical of his style than Siegfrieds Idyll  :)

   Solitary Wanderer,  I would like to say that Wagner's early piano compositions (the sonata, the transcriptions from various popular operas (those of Halevy etc.) were in no way part of Wagner's artistic output.  Wagner viewed these piano works as "slave work" and resented those operas (of Halevy etc.) that he felt inclined to do piano transcriptions for in order to earn a living.  Wagner saw himself as a prince of German Art- his true artistic contribution are his music operas.  If we are going to address this thread's query of WORKS LEAST TYPICAL OF A COMPOSER, I would like to argue (Notwithstanding Wagner's first two experimental operas (The Fairies, and the Ban on Love))  that DIE MEISTERSINGER VON NURNBERG is the ideal candidate for a work far removed from Wagner's other works.  It is the only "romantic comedy" he wrote, that does not deal with death and redemption, that is not set in mythical times and has a general feel good light heartedness about it- least typical of him.


  PS: I believe the same can be said of Verdi's Falstaff!
 
  marvin   

MishaK

Quote from: Holden on November 01, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
LvB: Choral Fantasy

That is a very typical work. In fact it's a sketch for the finale for the 9th. The main theme is almost an inversion of the Ode to Joy. The Choral Fantasy is in essence an early exercise for the idea that would later gestate in full in the 9th.

Quote from: Holden on November 01, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
Prokofiev: Classical symphony

Very typical of SP's lyrical, neoclassicist phase (see also Sinfonietta and VC 1).

Quote from: Holden on November 01, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
Bach: Toccata and Fugue in D minor

How so?

Quote from: Holden on November 01, 2007, 02:07:00 PM
Schoenberg: Verklärte Nacht

Again, very typical of his early post-romantic/impressionist phase, just like Pelleas und Melisande and Gurrelieder.