Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on November 03, 2016, 11:34:38 PM
HRC broke the law and she will pay for it.

Ah yes, lock 'er up. You Hillary-haters seem always to forget such things as due process and trial by jury. Ah, that inconvenient Constitution again . . . .

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on November 03, 2016, 11:34:38 PM
Privatization in business is always better than a bureaucracy-laden governmental "service".

The favorite right-wing shibboleth, which assumes among other things that government is always a failure and that there is no bureaucracy or inefficiency within the private sector. And yet within the US federal government there are any number of "services" that work extremely well - mail delivery, passport issuance, Social Security, Medicare, to name a few. (And stop that knee from jerking: we all know there are problems within the SS system that need resolution, but as presently administered it is remarkably efficient, and has done an excellent job of keeping seniors out of poverty - a genuine problem when the system was created in the 1930s.)
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: 71 dB on November 04, 2016, 04:56:47 AM
Nations can learn from each other.

Indeed, though a characteristic of Americans is a general unwillingness to learn from others. (We're Number One, you know.) I heard a radio program last month about how much more successfully German prisons handle teenage inmates than American ones, yet I'm sure we will never learn.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Karl Henning

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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

San Antone

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on November 04, 2016, 05:04:48 AM
Michael Gerson:

The piece is titled, One final election plea, on the behalf of U.S. ideals.

As effective, I imagine, as a similar plea from the opposing side of the partisan gulf. 

;)

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

San Antone


(poco) Sforzando

"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

San Antone

Comey was a hero when he gave Clinton a pass.  Now not so much.  Funny, how his reputation rises or falls depending on if he is acting favorably toward Clinton or not.

One of the biggest problems of this election is the Clinton smear machine targeting the FBI because Clinton acted in a manner which drew an investigation.

Shame on Comey.  He had the temerity to do his job.

James

Quote from: sanantonio on November 03, 2016, 06:58:29 AMClinton represents the past corrupt practices and Trump and Sanders represent an alternatvie path for the future of both parties.  Hopefully, that is. 

Sanders turned out to be a democrat after all, fully supporting Clinton. Your right about Clinton, she's been in govt most of her life. At least Trump isn't that, I still don't understand why he's even bothering, seems like an unselfish act, lots of aggravation and he's taking the abuse. There is very little difference between either party, or gang though. Both are responsible for having ruined your country which is trillions of dollars in debt and very disliked abroad globally. Both parties are responsible. And the system is set up in such a way that other true alternatives (to these 2 longstanding gangs) can't get into the game, not even debates, viewed by millions. Manufacturing consent indeed. Politicians (employees, public servants) hired & paid by 'the people' (the supposed employers), don't care about working for what's best for 'their employers' at all when we look at the mess. They care more about working on what's best for their political party first. It is truly a 2 party dictatorship. The presidential election has been a joke and an embarrassment for the world to see.
Action is the only truth

Karl Henning

Quote from: sanantonio on November 04, 2016, 05:32:44 AM
Oh sure, FBI agents are just full of bullshit.   Try again.

You expect me to mistake that for an argument? Try again  8)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: sanantonio on November 04, 2016, 05:44:00 AM
Comey was a hero when he gave Clinton a pass.

You keep alleging this.  I wonder whom you're speaking to.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

Quote from: sanantonio on November 04, 2016, 05:32:44 AM
Oh sure, FBI agents are just full of bullshit.   Try again.

The FBI is not the problem here. The reaction to the FBI is.

And frankly that goes both ways.
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San Antone

PIERS MORGAN: Get off your high horse, Hillary. Only ONE candidate is up to her neck in FBI probes and her name isn't Donald

I watched President Obama tear into Trump, branding him a small-brained, star-f***ing, Ku Klux Klan tolerating 'loser' born with a silver spoon in his mouth.

It was an astonishingly personal and nasty attack from a man whose own wife Michelle recently declared from atop her lofty moral plinth: 'When they go low, we go high.'

Yesterday, Hillary Clinton showed she didn't get the 'rise above the monster' memo either, shrieking herself hoarse as she once again laid into Trump supporters she recently described as 'The Deplorables'.

'I am sick and tired of the negative, dark, divisive, dangerous vision and the anger of people who support Donald Trump,' she raged.

The problem for Mrs Clinton as she gallops across the fields of America like a crusading white knight trying to single-handedly save the nation from imminent Armageddon at the hands of Mr Evil is that she's the Trace Adkins of this battle.

In other words, she ain't no saint herself.

Her supporters don't accept this of course. To them, Hillary is a vestal political virgin of unimpeachable integrity.

'Why would I want to criticise her?' a female Clinton-ite actress indignantly asked me on Twitter yesterday. 'She's up against a mad man. Compared to him, she's bathed in golden light.'

It was the kind of thing I'd expect Tom Cruise to say in defence of his beloved basket case Scientologists.



Brian

Bahahahahaahahaha when Piers Morgan is on your side that means it's time to join the other side.

San Antone

Quote from: drogulus on November 04, 2016, 06:44:44 AM
      'The Antichrist personified': 'Open warfare' and antipathy toward Clinton is reportedly fueling the FBI leaks

Most important word in that headline is "reportedly".  Cinton-nites see partisan enemies everywhere (not the only trait she and her supporters share with Nixon and his).  For them. there is no possiblity that their candidate might have a character problem.

San Antone

Quote from: Brian on November 04, 2016, 06:51:12 AM
Bahahahahaahahaha when Piers Morgan is on your side that means it's time to join the other side.

Hah!  We have a saying in the South, "Even a blind pig will find an acorn now and then."

;)

Mirror Image

Quote from: ørfeo on November 03, 2016, 11:46:10 PM
It's as if you can't see the inherent problem in reconciling those two sentences. Despite the quote explicitly pointing it out to you.

If you'd said "it's better if it's within the law", you might have had something. But you just glide right over that, as usual. You spit out sentences as completely independent ideas and never attempt to connect them. Your posts consist of a bunch of thoughts that you compartmentalise.

No need in arguing with a Republican. They're right and you're wrong. It doesn't matter what the issue is either. They always feel the need to have the last word on everything.

Madiel

Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.