Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Pat B]

You're just making my point. From day one he has promised that everything will be easy for him to accomplish - whether it's defeating ISIS, creating jobs, replacing Obamacare, deporting illegals, closing the borders, you name it. We'll just strike a few deals and get the best people on it, then it's just a matter of weeks if not days. Those who've supported him, purely on the basis of the snake oil he's been selling them, are likely to find he's unable to deliver with anywhere near the alacrity and success he's promised. But those on your side got what you wanted, and I sure hope he does better than I fear he will.

If you think I am a Trump supporter (ETA: or a Republican of any sort) then you are wildly mistaken.

I agree with your point, I just think that using the border wall as the example is setting the bar too low for him.

[(poco) Sforzando]

If you think I am a Trump supporter (ETA: or a Republican of any sort) then you are wildly mistaken.

When santonio writes: "New York Times gives Trump a greater than 95% chance of winning presidency, with over 300 electoral votes," and you reply, "Congratulations. I hope you were right for all our sake," you sure sound like a Trump supporter. I can't read your mind if you meant otherwise.

[Pat B]

When santonio writes: "New York Times gives Trump a greater than 95% chance of winning presidency, with over 300 electoral votes," and you reply, "Congratulations. I hope you were right for all our sake," you sure sound like a Trump supporter. I can't read your mind if you meant otherwise.

sanantonio is a Trump supporter. I am doing my best to be a gracious loser. I'm not sure how else you read that exchange.

And: my grace in losing does not mean I plan to let the Republicans make excuses for whatever happens over the next 2 years.

ETA: oh, you thought I meant right about the NYT probability. Sorry, I meant I hope he's right about Trump being the better choice.

[GioCar]

The thread title is turning to be a real prophecy...
Looking at what's happening in America, Europe, Asia, etc...
Why on earth will our sons have to face new wars because of our short sight and stupidity?

[Turner]

Perhaps a glimpse of hope away from real policy extremism in this one. He deliberately went for less educated or less well-off parts of the white population, as the biggest voting potential.

https://twitter.com/jennjacquelynm/status/796228572012748800

[Marc]

I can't help but wonder if the outcome would have been different had Bernie Sanders been the one running against Trump.

Stop wondering.
Against Trump, Sanders would have had a better chance than Clinton.
Both Trump and Sanders are representatives of the strong worldwide resentment movement against the so-called 'elite'.
And Sanders had many more young, involved and enthousiastic followers.
He didn't need millionaire rockstars to proof his points.

[amw]

Sanders would have cannibalised some of the working class white vote, where trump had the biggest support, but not done that well with minorities, so.... who knows.

[Rinaldo]

I'm so sorry, guys.

My country had two terrible, terrible presidents in a row. Especially the second one, who's still in power - nobody really believed he could make it, such a crass, vulgar drunk. We thought his campaign was a joke, until it wasn't. I remember the disbelief right after the election and it's that same feeling all over again. Ugh.

[Chronochromie]

I'm so sorry. I've just read his VP advocates "conversion therapy" for LGBT people. Fuck.

[Marc]

Sanders would have cannibalised some of the working class white vote, where trump had the biggest support, but not done that well with minorities, so.... who knows.

Of course, it's still a guess.
Sanders was maybe too much of a lefty, too.

We'll never know.

The world has to prepare itself for president Trump.

I vote for Ivanka as official White House Spokeswoman.

[Herman]

I'm so sorry. I've just read his VP advocates "conversion therapy" for LGBT people. Fuck.

well, that's the irony of this thing.

Trump joined the primaries because he wasn't doing too well, business wise, and wanted to boost his brand.

Pence was at a dead end as Indiana governor.

Now they're going to have responsibilities neither is suited for.

[Herman]

And obviously, all those Republicans who talked about getting back to conservatism, will now embrace Trump as their savior.

[Madiel]

Well, my favourite singer, Tori Amos, saw all this happening a couple of years ago - the phenomenon of one part of the country not paying attention to the existence of the other. She reposted certain lyrics from this song today: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/toriamos/america.html

The other America
Might show up on Tuesday
At your kitchen door
She will ask politely
"Is anybody home?"

[Madiel]

The AP/PBS just called Wisconsin putting Trump over 270.

There are reports Clinton has conceded to Trump on the phone.

[Florestan]

There are reports Clinton has conceded to Trump on the phone.

I´m watching CNN right now: Trump 276, Clinton 218. Hillary did indeed call Trump and congratulated him on winning. Trump is President Elect of the USA.

[GioCar]

I´m watching CNN right now: Trump 276, Clinton 218. Hillary did indeed call Trump and congratulated him on winning. Trump is President Elect of the USA.

Do you think the other way would ever have happened?

[Pat B]

Todd has already suggested Chris Christie for Secretary of Transportation. How about Ben Carson for Agriculture?

[Florestan]

Do you think the other way would ever have happened?

I have no idea, but I think that in the end it would.

[Florestan]

His speech was unusually civil and coirteous.

[Tritone]

Congratulations to the USA for having a wonderful, vigorous, peaceful democracy!!!