6 favourite works in B minor

Started by Maestro267, December 03, 2016, 11:27:43 AM

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Maestro267

I absolutely love the key of B minor. To me, it has heroic and epic feelings. And a lot of my favourite themes I've later found out to be in this key. So what are six of your favourite works in B minor (they don't necessarily have to be listed as "...in B minor", if you know by ear that they are predominantly in that key).

Mine are all orchestral, but yours don't have to be.

- Tchaikovsky's Manfred Symphony
- Gliere Symphony No. 3 ("Ilya Muromets")
- Paderewski's Symphony ("Polonia")
- Bantock's Thalaba the Destroyer
- Elgar's Violin Concerto
- Dvorak's Cello Concerto

Turner

#1
Pretty conventional taste for my part, at least where I´ve noticed the key mentioned:

Elgar V Cto
Liszt Piano Sonata
Bach Mass
Tchaikovsky 6th Symphony
Dvorak Cello Cto
Tchaikovsky Manfred

Wiki has a list of some symphonies in that key
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_symphonies_in_B_minor

EDIT: Wiklund Piano Cto no. 2 is also very good.


Mahlerian

#2
Quote from: Maestro267 on December 03, 2016, 11:27:43 AM
I absolutely love the key of B minor. To me, it has heroic and epic feelings. And a lot of my favourite themes I've later found out to be in this key. So what are six of your favourite works in B minor (they don't necessarily have to be listed as "...in B minor", if you know by ear that they are predominantly in that key).

Wait...I didn't create this thread?  Really?  There's someone other than myself obsessed with the key of B minor?

...

Bach - Mass in B minor
Berg - Piano Sonata Op. 1
Chopin - Scherzo No. 1 in B minor
Mozart - Adagio in B minor
Schubert - Unfinished Symphony
Sibelius - Tapiola

(And yes, I'm perfectly aware that none of Mahler's Symphonies or even any of their movements are in B minor.  Two of them begin in B minor through!)
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Jo498

Handel: Concerto op.6,12
Bach: French Suite #3, P&F from WTC I
Haydn: Quartet op.64,2
Beethoven: Bagatelle op.126,4 Presto
Dvorak: Cello concerto
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- Blaise Pascal

Sergeant Rock

Shostakovich Symphony No.6
Vivaldi Cello Concerto RV 424
Strauss Piano Sonata op.5
Tubin Symphony No.5 (1946)
Atterberg Symphony No.1
Miaskovsky Symphony No.7 op.24





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"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
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Spineur

#5
Brahms Clarinet Quintet Op 115 B minor
Liszt B minor sonata
Schubert unfinished symphony no 8 B minor
Mozart adagio for piano K540
Brahms rapsody Op 79 B minor
E lucevan le stelle, 3rd act of Tosca sung by Mario Cavaradossi

This last one fits best the "epic" feeling mentioned in the initial post.  I am not a fan of Luciano Pavarotti, but I dont think I have heard anybody sing this aria more convincingly.

https://www.youtube.com/v/4mX7ugJ5NM8



Mahlerian

I amend my last post for stupidly forgetting the Brahms Clarinet Quintet.  I'll replace the Schubert Symphony, fine work though it certainly is.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Jo498

yeah, the Brahms quintet should have topped my list. I don't know how I could forget it. I actually thought about some piano piece by Brahms and that there must be more important chamber music in that key but missed the clarinet quintet...
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Keep Going

Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6
Rachmaninov: Prelude (Op. 32, No. 10)
Turina: Piano Trio No. 2
Shostakovich: Symphony No. 6
Barber: String Quartet, Op. 11
Mendelssohn: The Hebrides

Dancing Divertimentian

Mozart's Adagio in B minor for solo piano, K540. My favorite piece of all time.
Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

SymphonicAddict

Tchaikovsky's Romeo and Juliet
Brahms' Clarinet quintet
Dvorák's Cello concerto
Saint-Saëns's 3rd Violin concerto
Glière's 3rd Symphony
Mendelssohn's The Hebrides, op. 26

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Elgar VC
Bach mass
Berg sonata
Lizst sonata
Fuck the rest -difficult!!!!!!

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amw

May be worth pointing out that Schumann's Davidsbündlertänze is pretty indisputably (according to most accounts anyway) in B minor, despite beginning in G major (with Clara's motto) and ending in C major (with Eusebius's "superfluous" addition)—there are more pieces in B minor than in any other key, and No. 17 "Wie aus der Ferne" musically completes the cycle with a very strong cadence in B minor, the final piece being genuinely unnecessary for closure and seeming to take place after the work is strictly over.

Nielsen's 2nd and Martinů's 1st symphonies both begin in B minor but end in other keys (A major and B-flat major respectively).

There aren't a lot of significant string quartets in B minor: two by Haydn, one by Bloch (No. 1) and one by Barber and I'm not aware of any others off the top of my head. Obviously, B minor isn't a great key for string instruments since the tonic note falls a semitone below the lowest strings of the viola and cello.


Also favourites, counting DBT:
Mozart Adagio
Bartók Violin Concerto No. 2
Chopin Piano Sonata No. 3
Medtner Violin Sonata No. 1
Brahms Clarinet Quintet
Shostakovich Piano Sonata No. 2
Bach Partita BWV 1002

I am arbitrarily disqualifying the Bach Mass because most of it is actually in D major >_>

Karl Henning

#13
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on December 03, 2016, 12:44:33 PM
Shostakovich Symphony No.6
Vivaldi Cello Concerto RV 424
Strauss Piano Sonata op.5
Tubin Symphony No.5 (1946)
Atterberg Symphony No.1
Miaskovsky Symphony No.7 op.24

Better than the Concerto in b minor for four violins and violoncello, RV580, Sarge8)
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Jo498

the one in b minor is maybe my favorite from Bach's violin/harpsichord sonatas. Whereas I am not too fond of the respective solo partita but/because it is probably the one I know least well.
Apparently it was a favored key for the baroque traverse flute.

Yes, I also discounted that mass because while the first Kyrie is certainly a most impressive piece very little in what follows is in b minor...

When I was a beginner I read about Beethoven calling b minor "black key" in the context of op.106 and while I am far too tone deaf to recognize keys of pieces I can't shake that prejudice against pieces in this key. Which is odd because while there are exceptions (like the highly chromatic last fugue from WTK I) a lot of b minor pieces (at least in the baroque) are rather playful and not all that dark.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 14, 2016, 05:57:14 AM
Better than the Concerto in b minor for four violins and violoncello, RV580, Sarge8)

RV580 is a good one too but I prefer RV424's deep and mournfully singing Largo. RV580's Largo is more like shallow 18th century minimalism.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on December 14, 2016, 06:26:03 AM
RV580's Largo is more like shallow 18th century minimalism.

Sarge

Oh, you are harsh, I think.  That movement makes more sense to the ear with the spatial dimension of the four players, I perceive.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 14, 2016, 06:32:27 AM
Oh, you are harsh, I think.

I agree...well, maybe I'd call my judgment shallow rather than harsh  ;D

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Brian


Overtones

Liszt, Piano sonata
Schubert, Unfinished symphony
Bach, Mass
Scarlatti, Keyboard sonata K87
Dvorak, Cello concerto
Kodaly, Sonata for solo cello